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turn 0 of 3rd challenge to BerXpert.

Ruins and wonders allowed.

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david42one - 14. Laberynt nex turn

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Game with Birdman end at turn 131 when half of his population revolted, so he resign.

I already had Edison Lab and preparing an invasion to his newest cities a.k.a. undefended

	30-12-2002 12:32									#364
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quote: Originally posted by berXpert Birdman 1. david42one - 14. Laberynt nex turn === I already had Edison Lab and preparing an invasion to his newest cities a.k.a. undefended

If you think they were undefended, then you are wrong. I will not make that mistake again (as in our first challenge).

All cities were defended with 2-5 units, most had pikemen and many had cannons too. Else I would have taken my "lost" cities back from the Scottish without much problems.

But I pushed my luck too far - science was near 5000 each turn (2 modern advances in 5 turns) and I had just exchanged railroad with my AI-neighbour and discovered electricity myself when I failed to take sufficient care of my economy.

	31-12-2002 20:39									#365
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Turn 41 and 42 to Birdman.
Turn 36 to Mathemagician.

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Turn 40 to Mathemagician.
Turns 43,44 to Birdman.
Turns 59,60 resent to Paulno1.

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im now officially playing Nimrod in a Ladder Match though i still dont know if we are playing with ruins/wonders or whatever... (?)

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david42one - 19

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Turns to Birdman and Mathman.

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david42one - 22

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BC6 Turn 104 to CormorantCrap

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Lung's back! Where have you been young man?

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Drinking lots of beers with Mobius (as far as I can guess from another thread) and sleeping with his (own) wife - but only sleeping.

What else Quinns ????????

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Sounds like an intriquing thread... Does it have wife swapping?

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The quote while that post was posting was:

"How untasteful can you get?"

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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan Drinking lots of beers with Mobius (as far as I can guess from another thread) and sleeping with his (own) wife - but only sleeping. What else Quinns ????????

Of course! What was I thinking?

Turns to Birdman and Mathemagician.

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Birdman 10

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	07-01-2003 01:23									#381
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turns back.

Quinns have just shown me another "trick", that I have not noticed ever before:

The use of the ZOC, that "useless" units actually have when sending them to the "right tiles" in due time - forcing a superior force to stop attacking - waiting for an even more superior enemy force to arrive and make a clean kill. Trapped!

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i dont understand what you mean, birdman. could you explain in more detail ?

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Yeah, Milamber trapped my phalanx by ZOC's with just a warrior a little horse and a city. I had to disband it to keep it from being enslaved. I was pretty impressed by that one. I am more than just a little ticked still. Its a good game we have going, but he just won't stay out of my land

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sorry you fired the first shot and i was just exploring and wham out of nowhere enslaved. so i figure i can prosecute a war for as long as you care to wage it.

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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan turns back. Quinns have just shown me another "trick", that I have not noticed ever before: The use of the ZOC, that "useless" units actually have when sending them to the "right tiles" in due time - forcing a superior force to stop attacking - waiting for an even more superior enemy force to arrive and make a clean kill. Trapped!

It's not so far fetched Birdman. In our example, three of my spread out warriors (not really useless, comparitively speaking) surrounded three of your phalanxes that were stacked together. A larger force of 5 warriors and 3 samurai pinned your phalanx group. The phalanx group was then destroyed by the warrior and samurai group, because the phalanx group could move nowhere except to attack the larger force.

I see ZOC's, by weaker units, representing cutting an isolated army's supply line, (something that isn't explicit in the rules, but can be forced on the enemy by using ZOC's around over extended units). If you don't use and move in "fronts" then you should prepare to be surrounded, have your "supply line" cut, and then have to fight your way out of it.

That is exactly what played out here. Your phalanx group was way over-extended, Birdman. It wasn't really a "trick", it was just basic military tactics -- applied to CtP.

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Are you blokes only just figuring that out now? NOW you know why a stack of Phalanxes is useless except at defending cities

Okay, so that's one less tactic i can use against BirdMan when i eventually run into him

Speaking of BirdMan, turn 106 to JabiruPoo 16 hours ago

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Turns to Math and Bird.

Lung....

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didnt receive a turn quinns

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Turn 57 sent to Math. (I was referring to turn 56 above, Mathman.)