31-10-2002 03:08									#1
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Well, that other game seems to be full. So maybe a second game would be in order.

I would prefer 4 players, 4 AIs.

Other settings?

Who wants some?

Game(s) #2 List
alva848*
Dominae
Edgar Newt
FrustratedPoet*
GhengisFarb
KingSponge
notyoueither
phelonius
Reggy
SlightlyMadman
Sir Ralph
Theseus
zeh

* Waiting for PTW to arrive in Europe

Last edited by notyoueither on 09-11-2002 at 09:46

	31-10-2002 05:02									#2
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Hey, I think I'm in .

After I get the game, that is...

	31-10-2002 05:08									#3
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What the heck is a PBEM, anyway?

If it doesn't hurt I'm willing to try.

	31-10-2002 05:09									#4
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It's "play by email". And no, it doesn't hurt.

	31-10-2002 05:13									#5
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Sir Ralph, are you taking them up on the offer to get the US English version sooner?

/Edit. Darn, that news item doesn't say earlier, does it?

Last edited by notyoueither on 31-10-2002 at 05:18

	31-10-2002 08:21									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph It's "play by email". And no, it doesn't hurt.

Why do I have the feeling that playing a play by email Civ 3 game against Sir Ralph probably WOULD hurt?

	31-10-2002 13:09									#7
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Sir Ralph, are you taking them up on the offer to get the US English version sooner? /Edit. Darn, that news item doesn't say earlier, does it?

I'm expecting it within next week. Okaysoft announced the release date Nov 4th, while they still thought that Infogrames releases it Nov 1st. So in fact, now the release may be even earlier. To release it later would be pointless, because the CD of the German version, announced for Nov 21st, contains the US version as well, but costs less (€29.50, as opposed to €41.50).

If you can't wait that long, go ahead and start without me, I'm sure I'll find another party.

EDIT (Update): Just phoned Okaysoft. They said they ship it next Monday or Tuesday. So I think I'll have it next Wednesday (Nov 6th) at the latest.

	31-10-2002 13:19									#8
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Why do I have the feeling that playing a play by email Civ 3 game against Sir Ralph probably WOULD hurt?

Surprise, surprise, but I actually never played Civ3 MP before. So you're welcome to whack my undefended settlers.

	31-10-2002 15:51									#9
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Sir Ralph. I will happily wait.

Do you think we can get Theseus in this? That would be good.

	31-10-2002 18:21									#10
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So you sign up for PBEM

I guess as a European I will have to wait for a month to see it in the stores and I certainly will start a few PBEM games.

For people that have no experience in PBEM games know that the more players and the larger the map is the longer it will take to finish. Most of the delay comes from the players and not the game itself so having a game finished after 1-2 years, even more it will probably be the most likely. But then again it greatly depends from the player that join and how reliable are in speed and time durability

Have a good game

	31-10-2002 18:59									#11
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Do you think we can get Theseus in this? That would be good.

Yea it would. I PM'd him a link to this thread, I'm hoping he'll show up.

	31-10-2002 19:11									#12
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Why have an AI in it?????????

btw: Kicking Theseus' but sounds very appealing

	31-10-2002 19:21									#13
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I agree, that more human players add more diversity and fun, but keep in mind, that each human player makes the game slower. That's PBEM, not turnless MP . And about Theseus' butt, well, kick or be kicked, time will show .

	31-10-2002 20:56									#14
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My butt shall remain pure...

Actually, I've never played any kind of Civ MP either, so be gentle.

I'm in... I'm getting PTW today or tomorrow.

	31-10-2002 21:37									#15
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You can count me in, if there's still space.

Anybody who wants a slightly more organized sign-up utility, I banged out a simple PHP script to handle game signup. It's not quite done yet, but you can create games and sign up for them.

When it's finished (hopefully soon), it will handle uploading saved games and taking turns, too.

http://www.slightlymad.net/pbem/

Edit: changed url

Last edited by SlightlyMadman on 31-10-2002 at 22:02

	01-11-2002 18:17									#16
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Count me in, I got PTW yesterday, but won't install it until Monday.

(Field exercise starting tonight)

	02-11-2002 00:09									#17
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Questions:

How fast do turns go?

How long will a game take? hours? Days? Weeks?

I'm intrigued by PBEM just not sure how huge of a commitment it is. It's got to be faster than the online-version (hehe).

	02-11-2002 01:34									#18
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Answers:

Depends how fast you play and how many players... I would expect a committed team of players to play 1, maybe 2 turns per day. Possibly more if they are in the same timezone and early in the game.

Game will probably last the best part of a year at least.

Its not such a huge commitment. Will probably take 5 mins a day to play, not counting discussions with other players.

Dave

	02-11-2002 01:41									#19
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quote: Originally posted by SlightlyMadman You can count me in, if there's still space. Anybody who wants a slightly more organized sign-up utility, I banged out a simple PHP script to handle game signup. It's not quite done yet, but you can create games and sign up for them. When it's finished (hopefully soon), it will handle uploading saved games and taking turns, too. http://www.slightlymad.net/pbem/ Edit: changed url

I like this work. Simple and efficient.
If it manages to store saved pbem games will be a great toll to use.

I think this section should have some thing like that, so we can have the threads to discuss he game itself AND a place to manage the game properly.

	02-11-2002 01:49									#20
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Oh!
And count me in if you still need another player!!!
I'll install PTW tonight.

	02-11-2002 02:20									#21
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quote: Game will probably last the best part of a year at least. Its not such a huge commitment. Will probably take 5 mins a day to play, not counting discussions with other players.

I've played a ton of Warlords 3 and AoW PBEM over the years and I've learned that no matter how committed people are on the day they join up, some will disappear over time.

The most successful games I've had were with smaller groups, like 3-5 players, in games that lasted a few weeks to a couple months. We usually try for 1 turn per day but end up with about 4-5 turns per week and that's a pretty good pace. Sometimes we'd go a few days without seeing the game but hey, people have lives.

Anyway, just a thought. I'm still interested in getting into one of these PBEM's, though!

	02-11-2002 04:38									#22
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We might get more than one going from this group.

	03-11-2002 02:45									#23
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I'd be interested in joining a game. I may have to be walked through the mechanics at the beginning.

	03-11-2002 02:58									#24
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Okay, I'm installing PTW.

How do we do this PBEM thing?

	03-11-2002 03:25									#25
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Oops, sorry, wrong log-in... that was me.

PTW is officially installed. What now?

	03-11-2002 08:22									#26
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I'm available if there is still space.

AIM: Edgar Newt

replace no_spam with enewt:

no_spam@earthlink.net

	03-11-2002 10:23									#27
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Sounds like this game filling up. I'm in as well if there is room.

	03-11-2002 16:27									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Oops, sorry, wrong log-in... that was me.

* FrustratedPoet thinks about doing the DL dance.
* FrustratedPoet doesn't.

	03-11-2002 20:59									#29
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I'm interested too, although I'm sure the 4 human-player limit has been reached...Maybe we could set up two games?


Dominae

	03-11-2002 21:57									#30
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there will hundreds, hundreds I say aaarrghhh

Count me in too