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You're doing it again. Everything is overcompensating for something, isn't it? Bullshit. What are you overcompensating for?

You think I think I'm perfect? I know I'm not, and I am overcompensating for some things.

The vast majority of people do, they just don't realize it.

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Those are just easy attacks to make on someone, and most people have long rejected them.

So why does it bother you...

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DRoseDARs here, the one who started this thread. I'd like my thread back now. Tone it down a bit 'cause I'd rather not have Ming, Ra, or one of the others mods shutting this thread down. I'd rather it die a natural death, slipping further and further down the post listing.

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I have no idea what they'd prefer. It's none of their business so they don't know.


Yeah, I bet that your mother doesn't want grandchildren.

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Yeah, I bet that your mother doesn't want grandchildren.

Lord knows that bisexual people can never have kids.

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I think what you stand for and your opinion on the matter is uninformed, bigoted, offensive, and downright stupid, and it wasn't worth the energy to calmly debate you logically since it's clear logic is over your head to begin with.


Funny, because that's exactly how I feel about talking to you. Reminds me of that circumcision thread a while back. Full of **** and hot air.

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Asher and Nationalist:

STOP IT!!!

Read the second post from the top on page 4.

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So why does it bother you...


Because its so stupid? Why does my "bigotry" bother you so much? Because you think its stupid.

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Funny, because that's exactly how I feel about talking to you. Reminds me of that circumcision thread a while back. Full of **** and hot air.

Well, I fully expect you to think the same as me.

The only problem is, you're the extreme radical with no chance in hell of having a mainstream opinion, and I've got a Liberal opinion with a live-and-let-live attitude.

You're a whacko, to put it bluntly. It's almost like you live to find controversial opinions and post about it.

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Quick anecdote: My friends and I were watching T.V. and eating Papa John's Pizza. He comes in and asks if he can have a breadstick. We give him one and don't think a thing of it... until he starts deep throating it. We yell at him and he says he just loves to suck ****. He was in charge of us, and he blatently rubbing his sexuality in our faces. I never went up to him and started licking a raw clam saying "God, I love to eat *****" He crossed a line, and so did all of his pushy flamer friends. I have many more stories like that to tell.


Sounds to me like he found a group it's easy to make squeamish and is enjoying it because he can tell what kind of attitudes you have.

How's this for an anecdote:

Myself and a friend of mine spent an evening hanging out at a gay bar in DC. When we left, it was about 1 AM. Hanging out across the street from the bar was a group of 4 drunk guys who were shouting slurs and epithets to people leaving the bar. You know, "goddamn faggots," etc. We had to cross the street, taking us right by the group, who got more vociferous and singled us out as we passed. Now, my friend and I aren't flamboyant at all and dress normal prep. I was content just to walk on by, but my friend had to make a comment, which was something like "you guys are *******s." Nothing major, but the group then proceeded to follow us for several blocks, loudly yelling slurs. I kept us moving, but I was certainly terrified at this point. That's when I felt the thud of something hitting my back, which was a beer bottle one of them had chucked at me (not to hard, though). Fortunately, at that point we came to a large intersection where there was a reasonable amount of people, including a nearby police car. I grabbed my friend and started making an obvious b-line for it. When I turned around, the guys were retreating back the way we had come.

So now, isn't that a nice anecdote? What rash generalizations am I free to now make about what kind of person you must be, based on this? Can we expect you to be flinging beer bottles anytime soon?

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Asher and Nationalist:

STOP IT!!!

Read the second post from the top on page 4.

The thread died long ago, get over it.

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Because its so stupid? Why does my "bigotry" bother you so much? Because you think its stupid.

Because it breeds intolerance, which is harmful to everyone in society.

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Asher and Nationalist:

STOP IT!!!

Read the second post from the top on page 4.


Sorry, DRose. I don't want to ruin your thread. Nothing will get resolved anyway. Asher will never convince me that I'm wrong, and I'll never convince him that gay people can be bigoted. You can have it back now. I have things to deal with that actually matter.

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I'll never convince him that gay people can be bigoted.

I've NEVER said they can't be bigoted.

You don't even know what we're arguing about, do you?!

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The thread died long ago, get over it.


Yeah, because the two of you started going after each other! I don't give a rat's ass WHO started it - kinda like the Israelis and Palestinians - just stop, both of you.

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We were arguing over whether or not homsexuality is a defect. I just typed that because I didn't want to offend anyone with what I was going to type.

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Yeah, because the two of you started going after each other! I don't give a rat's ass WHO started it - kinda like the Israelis and Palestinians - just stop, both of you.

You know, in the future you should realize a lot of people don't take kindly to people telling them to knock if off (especially when they're not in a position of authority) when they're already pissed off.

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Calm down

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We were arguing over whether or not homsexuality is a defect. I just typed that because I didn't want to offend anyone with what I was going to type.


I get that, but too many threats and insults (more than zero) were getting interjected.

I agree with you, Nationalist, that homosexuality MIGHT be some sort of birth defect of some sort...but I agree with everyone else that you have to be careful how you define "defect" and how you perceive "defects."

Also, gays can be bigots, I've seen it. My friend Mat lives in 'Frisco and he's gotten snotty once or twice about heteros. He's by no means KKH material (Ku Klux Homos), but he's had moments. Additionallt, I myself AM a bigot by my own admission, but we'll not get into the object of my searing, Nazi-esque hatred...

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nationalist and his type are the reason why there are gay bigots in the first place.

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Let's stay away from the PERSONAL INSULTS...

The next person that does is toast, and I don't care who started it.

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I get that, but too many threats and insults (more than zero) were getting interjected.


I was talking to Asher. I was going to type something else, but I thought that it was pointless to do so. I decided to stop throwing insults. Maybe he didn't.

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You know, in the future you should realize a lot of people don't take kindly to people telling them to knock if off (especially when they're not in a position of authority) when they're already pissed off.


Asher, in the near future...tick tick tick...NOW you will learn that I don't care if people don't like being told to cool off. Be like Nationalist and France...surrender.

Asher, hon, you're , but you've got a major bug up your butt tonight. Please quit picking at in this thread. I'm more interested in the non-threatening, intelligent posts you, Nat, Boris, and others have made.

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nationalist and his type are the reason why there are gay bigots in the first place.


Hey, what can I say? I have a specific worldview, and I don't think that it is wrong for me to have that view. I'm comfortable with it.

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Be like Nationalist and France...surrender.


Hey now, watch with the name calling. Asher can call me gay all he wants, but categorizing me with France hurts! I didn't surrender anyway, I was just doing you a favor. I personally don't mind if people ask me to calm down if I am ruining their time, unlike some people

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I never actually called you gay.

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True, but those insinuations...

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Asher, hon, you're

Are you gay or something?

I'm confused...

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Back on topic... I'm in a mood to ban somebody, so don't push your luck gentleman

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I didn't mean that as an insult...

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Dammit Ming, I just found an attack that I'd really like to respond to

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Are you gay or something?

I'm confused...


Yes, actually, I am and so I couldn't take it as an insult even if I wanted to.

Per Ming's "subtle" advice:
For those who think homosexuality is a choice, why do you think that / for what reasons do you think someone would choose to be gay?

For those who DON'T think homosexuality is a choice, what do you think causes it?

 
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