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ranskaldan
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Beijing ~ Singapore ~ Toronto ~ All hail to the new Rome
Sep 2001
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The pink unicorn is getting very annoying.... 
It is also a false analogy, since the idea of one is absurd; but the idea of non-physical differences between peoples of different physical characters isn't.
I get your point about the lack of evidence - indeed evidence is lacking, since any difference is explained away by socioeconomic factors. Also, as either you or che said, the sceptre of power shifts from race to race, which means that differences between races in that respect aren't significant.
However, that doesn't mean that they don't exist. Perhaps the entire white population is .1% more violent than the black population genetically. The possibility is certainly there. In fact, if you told me that the black and white populations match each other exactly in every respect, I would think that's improbable.
As for music classifications, I personally find them intriguing.
Anyway, it's late... and I won't be posting any more tonight.
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Ramo
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Austin, Texas, USA
Oct 1999
time: 23:23
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It is also a false analogy, since the idea of one is absurd; but the idea of non-physical differences between peoples of different physical characters isn't. |
The idea of differences in certain non-physical differences, for instance intelligence, are absurd.
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I get your point about the lack of evidence - indeed evidence is lacking, since any difference is explained away by socioeconomic factors. |
Well, there is no evidence for causes of these supposed differences. So, since there is no evidence for the causes of these differences, and no evidence for the existence of these differences, the most reasonable position to take is that they don't exist. There is absolutely no rational reason to think exist.
I'll give you another reason why these differences wouldn't exist. Let's suppose that subsaharan Africa selects more violent people due to hormonal levels or whatever (even if the argument makes absolutely no sense).
Now, consider that 20,000 years ago, the Saharan desert didn't exist; European or North Africans could migrate freely to the South. However, due to heavy violence in Subsaharan Africa because everyone's agressive, the communities living there would continually starve because the constant violence prevents them from functioning as normal societies. Instead, they are replaced be well-behaving North Africans who don't have these odd hormonal problems (hunter-gatherers don't exterminate each other as has been observed, so the North Africans won't be killed because they're too pacifistic). So, what you end up with is genetic homogeneity with respect to this hormone thing.
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Perhaps the entire white population is .1% more violent than the black population genetically. The possibility is certainly there. |
To bring up the pink unicorn again, any possiblity is there.
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Urban Ranger
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Apolyton Duke of Off-Topic
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Originally posted by ranskaldan
Such genetic variation was created by long-term isolation of Europeans and Africans. This has caused two gene pools to be different in character, as evolution and chance always do to isolated populations.
Hence, why wouldn't such variations extend to anything beyond physical traits? Variations in terms of hormonal levels, for instance, could arise as well. In fact, they have to arise, or else the Theory of Evolution is bunk. |
Surely variations could extend beyond physical traits, but it will be up to you to establish that such variations are universal within a "race" and can be linked to skin colour (or other such attributes) consistently.
Evolution does not dictate what will or will not arise, it is the environment that does so.
Last edited by Urban Ranger on 10-11-2002 at 12:54
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10-11-2002 10:59
Like I said, you need to read what you're criticizing.
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