09-11-2002 02:14									#1
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I know La Fayette's record is 731. Mine is 742

This is what I do:

Max tax
Alliances - request gift
Share maps to find OBJECTIVE cities
Great Wall / Sun Tzu in Medina
I use a couple of settlers to build roads to AI and send about 4 veteran fanatics to take each AI city.

What can I do more or what should I do different to get an earlier date?

	09-11-2002 23:25									#2
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Yes, those fanatics are strong!
IIRC, I had more than 80 of them at work in the endgame.

I think that the main difference between your early strategy and mine concerns the Wonders: I didn't care building any (fanatics instead :evil.

Here is a savegame after 33 years, so that you can see how the early game went on.

Attachment: mh_a665.sav
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	10-11-2002 20:05									#3
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I was unable to use the file: "This is not a sav file". Could you zip it?

My civ version is 2.62. Maybe different versions is the cause?

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...20&pagenumber=3

	11-11-2002 20:59									#4
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Ok, I got it!!

Just got 4 new civ-versions today:

1.02
2.42
2.7.8
MGE

I gotta lot of catching up to do! All those scenarios, multiplayer, and what not... Enuff for a lifetime in the least. Couldn't play them before - 2.62 is a very limiting version in that respect.

It opened in MGE, I remembered you use MGE.

What do you use all those diplos for? It can't be bribery because you don't have enough money.

Last edited by Lars-E on 11-11-2002 at 21:12

	12-11-2002 05:12									#5
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... and de walls came tumbling down.

Almost any city in this game has walls.
Who can get rid of city walls?
diplos.

My method is described in SlowThinker's thread 'Info: diplomats and spies' (in the GL).
To make it short:
Diplomat #1 peeps and tells you how many improvements there are inside the city. Let us say n improvements.
You attack with (n+1) diplomats to make sure that the walls will tumble down (if you are lucky, the first attacking diplo will get rid of the walls, but usually the walls are the last improvement destroyed, that's why using (n+1) diplos is fine).

Congratulations with your numerous versions of civ2, Lars. That should be enough to keep you busy quite a while .

	12-11-2002 06:08									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Lars-E Ok, I got it!! Just got 4 new civ-versions today: 1.02 2.42 2.7.8 MGE

Why not ToT? We need more ToT players so that our succession games can really roll!

	12-11-2002 17:49									#7
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Last edited by Lars-E on 12-11-2002 at 17:54

	14-11-2002 01:01									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Lars-E Ok, I got it!! Just got 4 new civ-versions today: 1.02 2.42 2.7.8 MGE

Lars-E...Where did you find the multi-player version?? I have been looking for a copy but it seems to be unavailable. Thanks, BM

	14-11-2002 21:42									#9
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civfanatics.com

	14-11-2002 21:49									#10
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I just finished the jihad-scenario in 716!

Back to occ.

Here's my early game sav, La Fayette:

Attachment: ch_a716.sav
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

	14-11-2002 22:01									#11
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Here's the early sav game:

Posted the endgame by mistake above. I used your file to compare statistics: f1-f11. It is very interesting and useful. Boy have I learnt much these two last games. After you posted your game I played twice - the learning curve is exponential. I took notes all the time. Hopefully this will spill over to occ and "occ+" (early landings AC).

Attachment: ch_a666.sav
This has been downloaded 1 time(s).

	16-11-2002 04:03									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Lars-E I just finished the jihad-scenario in 716! :

Inch Allah!
All records are to be beaten
Improving from 110 turns to 84 turns is rewarding.
Congratulations Lars: you are now on the list of recordholders for CiC scenarios