17-11-2002 10:11									#61
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if you ever say again that turks are the descendants of greeks, i shalt hunt you down to the white hot infernos of the inner circles of hell dr. strangelove.


that was a joke

	17-11-2002 10:15									#62
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 if you ever say again that turks are the descendants of greeks, i shalt hunt you down to the white hot infernos of the inner circles of hell dr. strangelove. that was a joke

I don't live in your neighborhood!

	17-11-2002 10:16									#63
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We do international business as well

	17-11-2002 10:20									#64
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 We do international business as well

My momma told me about you're kind, so I'm wise to you.

	17-11-2002 10:29									#65
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Let's face facts Paiktis. Human beings are like rabbits in that groups of humans can't live near each other for five minutes before they start having sex with each other.

Greeks & Turks have lived next to each other since at least the fourteenth century so it is safe to say there has been a significant amount of intermarrage.

So when you think about it Paiktis even you could be part Turk.

	17-11-2002 10:33									#66
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Couldn't we all just abandon this miserable thread and let it die out peacefully. This poll is quite despicable in its nature, I think most people agree.

	17-11-2002 10:37									#67
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Even turk is better than your stinking brand oerdin

	17-11-2002 12:11									#68
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Many, many Greeks simply became Turks. First of all there was the boy-tribute system. Second, entire units of the Byzantine army simply joined the Ottomans in the 14th Century. Ohran's wife (or was it Beyezid's), IIRC, was the daughter of the Byzantine "emperor." By the 17th Century, the Sultan's had more Greek blood than Turkish blood.

Hell, the ruler of the Empire for a long time was Kosem Sultana, mother of Mehemd IV and Ibrahim. She was a full blood Greek. She ruled over her husband, was regent for Mehemd, and took over the empire for Ibrahim (he was totally insane). I should note this is about the point that the EMpire began to become more nasty.

Most of the major sities of the European part of the Empire were either founded by Turks or resettled by Turks after the Christians had fled. In most of the Balkans, Christians were forbidden from converting to Islam, because Moslems didn't pay taxes nor did they have to give up a son. Where they could, however, Christians converted in droves.

	17-11-2002 12:36									#69
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This thread reeks

The only thing we're learning here is who is a racist or a bigot or prejudiced or obsessed with colour

The nationality of those blind, morally stunted people is no surprise in most cases either

I expect the same people to show up on a thread about p*nis length

	17-11-2002 12:51									#70
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I dunno, I learned some good things from Doc S. I never had even heard of the classification "Dravidian." And Che's last post had a good history lesson.

	17-11-2002 13:22									#71
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I'm reading Lords of the Horizon right now, about the Ottoman Empire. I checked out five books on the Ottomans for research so I could write some more events in Europa-Universalis II.

	17-11-2002 21:57									#72
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semittes and aryans are totally more different that the varieties in the blacks

	17-11-2002 22:06									#73
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At the end of the day a rose, is a rose, is a rose...

	17-11-2002 22:40									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Viking Berserk semittes and aryans are totally more different that the varieties in the blacks

Assuming that "Semite" and "Aryan" are even meaningful words when we describe "races", here's a link:

http://www.geocities.com/racial_myths/MapGene.jpg

You might be interested to see that Danish and Iranian cluster right next to each other.

	17-11-2002 22:46									#75
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interesting map,

but it only makes sense that danes are closer related to iranians than to tibetans or mbuti.

they're both indoeuropean peoples.

	17-11-2002 22:54									#76
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They're both Caucasoid, you mean...

Language categories don't correspond to genetics too well.

Anyway, the word "iran" itself comes from "aryan"...

	17-11-2002 22:55									#77
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well actually the iranians are semites today, not indoeuropean.

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quote: Language categories don't correspond to genetics too well.

well it does in this case, all the peoples in that cluster (inside the yellow ring) are indoeuropeans.

	17-11-2002 23:01									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Viking Berserk well actually the iranians are semites today, not indoeuropean.

?????

Please refer to the chart I posted.

Iranians speak an Indo-European language, their origins are Indo-European, even today their genetics cluster with Europeans... what more do you need?!

	17-11-2002 23:02									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf well it does in this case, all the peoples in that cluster (inside the yellow ring) are indoeuropeans.

Indians and Sardinians are both outside, and further away than Basques.

	17-11-2002 23:04									#81
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ranskaldan, your asian... thats why u dont see the difference between whites and middle eastern peoples.

	17-11-2002 23:07									#82
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I'm giving you scientific data here, not my personal perceptions.

And yes, I can tell the difference between Europeans and Middle Easterners.

	17-11-2002 23:09									#83
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Hm, the chart listed Japanese and Korean to be close, however I read somewhere that there isn't any original Japanese people. They are composed of four distinct subgroups that came in via immigration. Two of the groups are Korean and Chinese.

	17-11-2002 23:12									#84
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ofcourse, and we all are africans

	17-11-2002 23:13									#85
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In a way, yes.

	17-11-2002 23:14									#86
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quote: Originally posted by ranskaldan Indians and Sardinians are both outside, and further away than Basques.

always exceptions to the rule.

but that doesn't change the fact that all the peoples inside that circle speak indoeuropean languages...

quote: ranskaldan, your asian... thats why u dont see the difference between whites and middle eastern peoples.

unless he just made up that map (which is not very likely imo ), what you said is pure bs and you know it.

	17-11-2002 23:18									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Viking Berserk ranskaldan, your asian... thats why u dont see the difference between whites and middle eastern peoples.

The fact that you could write what you just did shows what an idiot you are. Middle Easterners are mostly white, dorkus. They are only slightly darker, like Italians, Spaniard, and Greeks.

Leave it to a Scandinavian to equate white with only Northern Europeans.

	17-11-2002 23:43									#88
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100 Meter Run.

I'm not at all a distance runner, but for short sprints I've got some wheels. I'm pretty good at the Triple-Jump too, but its not a race.

	17-11-2002 23:46									#89
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i think he made up the map (since it was a homepage from geocities, and because of all the bull in it)

anyway, chegitz. where are you from since you believe that everyone who is not east asian or black look the same?

	17-11-2002 23:47									#90
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by the way, i talked to a guy from pakistan on msn.
he dont consider himself white.