25-11-2002 09:53									#61
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And a 51 yarder to win it.

	25-11-2002 09:53									#62
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Amazing...as much as I hate the Broncos, I'm loving this.

	25-11-2002 10:57									#63
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Can someone please explain what is up with Farve? The last two weeks he's seemed like he doesn't give a **** if they win or lose. This week, he played with no fire at all, and really looked like he wasn't even trying. Even the announcers mentioned it (and I thought most announcers were blind ).

All I can say to the Giants, though, is HAW HAW!

	25-11-2002 11:04									#64
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Nothing wrong with Farve at all... If you take a look at his record in the last two stadiums he has played in, you will see that he had a pretty typical performance in both. He just sucks in those stadiums, pure and simple.

	25-11-2002 11:10									#65
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Yeah, but it seems like he says I suck at those stadiums, so I won't try. I mean the excuse he's given is that he doesn't win at those stadiums. Shouldn't he try to correct that?

	25-11-2002 12:32									#66
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chicago Bears still suck?

Did the detroit get the award for most stupid coaching decision? The winds weren't even that bad I heard.

I'm still crackin up over that.

	25-11-2002 13:04									#67
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Well, I haven't posted on a Poly Football thread yet, mainly because I stopped watching after some really dull games in 2002. But after watching a couple of games recently, coupled with the great win by Indy, I'm getting geared up to watch the Niners vs. Philly tommorow.

	25-11-2002 17:25									#68
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Bit of a threadjack.

The Montreal Alouettes won the Grey cup!!!

	25-11-2002 19:10									#69
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Not really... It's still football and not soccer

Congratulations on winning the Grey Cup!

	25-11-2002 19:48									#70
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1. Let us all bow down to reismark's Bucs. Statistically the league's best... for now. (Gotta say, I'm starting to think they can do this. Everyone else is tripping over their own feet.)

2. I AM SO GLAD THE RAMS LOST!!!! Martz was outcoached by Bellicek in the SB, now outcoaches himelf by failing to look at the obvious history. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU STAY WITH THE HOT HAND!! NE did it last year with Brady-Bledsoe, and the Cowboys did it in '92 SB run, too, staying with their backup (Beuerlein) for 3 games after Aikman was ready to come back from injury.

MARTZ HAS NOW COST THE RAMS 2 SUPER BOWLS IN A ROW!!
What an idiot...got what he deserved!

	25-11-2002 19:48									#71
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Did I miss it going through this thread or didn't anyone comment on the low class celebration Sapp was doing?

I look forward to yet another Eagles Buccaneers match up in the playoffs.

Who knows Bucs might actually win this time as they likely will have home field advantage and no McNabb to deal with.

	25-11-2002 19:49									#72
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How in god's name could morningshwag justify deferring on the OT coin toss by saying he was "confident in the defense" .

The same defense that gave up 10 frikkin points in less than 4 minutes!!!!

I think the freak carnival known as M and M needs to be run out of town immediately. They've taken what was at least a mediocre 9-7 team and ran them into the ground.

	25-11-2002 19:55									#73
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I was in a state of shock when he made that decision...
When the Lions won the coin flip, I thought we were doomed.

But that was nowhere near as bad as a decision as the one he made to accept the penality that gave the Bears another down, on the play before we kicked the field goal. The Bears gained a net 5 yards on that stupid decision... which was all we needed

And I thought our coaching staff was stupid...

	25-11-2002 21:23									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Did I miss it going through this thread or didn't anyone comment on the low class celebration Sapp was doing? I look forward to yet another Eagles - Buccaneers match up in the playoffs. Who knows Bucs might actually win this time as they likely will have home field advantage and no McNabb to deal with.

Personally, I thought Sapp's hit, celebration, and reaction after the game were all totally uncalled for. And it doesn't matter if the Bucs win the rest of their games and get home-field advantage - they'll find some way to completely choke in the playoffs.

	25-11-2002 21:36									#75
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Priest Holmes needs to run for Governer of Missouri.

	26-11-2002 00:18									#76
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quote: Did I miss it going through this thread or didn't anyone comment on the low class celebration Sapp was doing?

That's one of the main reasons I hate the Bucs. Sapp is a total *******. You can't justify that, EVER! This is worse than the fans in Philly cheering when Irvin got hurt. Sapp hunted the person, waited until his back was turned and sucker punched him, and then as he lay motionless, celebrated! Any team with a person like that on it deserves to lose every game.

And McNabb is coming back for the playoffs, so maybe the Bucs might get beat by an old friend .

quote: now outcoaches himelf by failing to look at the obvious history. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU STAY WITH THE HOT HAND!!

You do know that Warner passed for 300 yards and 2 TDs, right? And you do know they were 5 yards from winning it, right?

If there was no fumble, and the Rams won (say in OT) there would be none of this talk about Martz picking the wrong guy. NONE! It is totally unfair to have ONE play to decide if the person made a good or bad choice.

Oh, btw... Marshall Faulk was injured again, and the Rams had no one that rushed for over 40 yards. You try to win with a running game that anemic.

	26-11-2002 00:44									#77
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Well since it is after the fact... it's EASY to say he made the wrong choice, because they LOST It doesn't matter how or why... they just LOST! Like every other game that Warner has started this year

	26-11-2002 01:21									#78
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Warner beats anything Chicago, or Dallas has to offer.
Maybe Jones will deal for Warner. Or Maddox.

	26-11-2002 02:22									#79
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Greg Maddox is likely re-signed by the Braves. Glavin OTOH is going to either Phillies or Mets from what I heard.

	26-11-2002 02:42									#80
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quote: You do know that Warner passed for 300 yards and 2 TDs, right? And you do know they were 5 yards from winning it, right? If there was no fumble, and the Rams won (say in OT) there would be none of this talk about Martz picking the wrong guy. NONE! It is totally unfair to have ONE play to decide if the person made a good or bad choice.

1. Warner 0-5 now. I didn't say he was bad. But there's a big difference between winning a NFL game and winning the week's fantasy matchup.
2. If he was the god you say, they never would have been in position to lose.
3. This was the Redskins, Imran.

I think Martz may go down in history as the man who did the least, with the most talent, of any coach in modern NFL history. (Supplanting Ditka from that title, btw.)

	26-11-2002 02:49									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You can't justify that, EVER! This is worse than the fans in Philly cheering when Irvin got hurt. Sapp hunted the person, waited until his back was turned and sucker punched him, and then as he lay motionless, celebrated! Any team with a person like that on it deserves to lose every game. And McNabb is coming back for the playoffs, so maybe the Bucs might get beat by an old friend .

Agreed 100% Imran. There is a code amongst professional players. NEVER EVER EVER Gloat about hurting another player.

Fans are allowed (albeit in a classless rowdy sense) but never a player.

Not that I would want even Sapp to get hurt but I sure wouldn't mind him or a few other classless individuals to get their head handed to them repeatedly until they gained a sense of perspective.

	26-11-2002 03:13									#82
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I agree that Sapp was a jerk to gloat. I also think the Pack's coach was a jerk to mouth off about it. The hit was legal and fair.

Imran, you say Sapp "waited until his back was turned and sucker punched him." That's bull. When the ball turns over, anyone is fair game -- QBs included -- and defenders are taught to find someone and hit them.

Dude, this is a 300-pound-plus NFL lineman. If he's too stupid to defend himself on the football field, he WILL get hurt. (He's fine, btw.) No pity to a fallen warrior when it's a legal hit in the normal course of play.

At least Sapp went after a lineman and not Favre (who, btw, Sapp had a perfectly legal shot at on another INT runback but didn't headhunt).

Again, I agree Sapp is a jerk for gloating, but I suspect he was really just fired up over the game. I'd take a heady, talented 100%er like him on my team ANY TIME.

	26-11-2002 03:25									#83
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Yeah... I guess Sapp had to hit somebody during the game on a play like that... considering he didn't make ANY tackles or ANY sacks during any other play

	26-11-2002 03:37									#84
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It looked to me like Sapp jumped so that his helmet would stick the other guys earhole.

ACK!

	26-11-2002 03:45									#85
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Only a Philly fan cheers the injury of a player.

	26-11-2002 04:27									#86
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quote: I also think the Pack's coach was a jerk to mouth off about it.

He has a duty to protect his players. I'm with Sherman on this one. Sapp deserves to be fined.

quote: That's bull. When the ball turns over, anyone is fair game -- QBs included -- and defenders are taught to find someone and hit them.

BS. You might hear this from commentators, but when the play is on the sideline and you pop someone in the middle of the field, that is dirty! And if he hit Farve instead of an OL, you bet he would have been suspended and fined big.

He went headhunting and that's wrong.

Btw, I gotta love this piling up on Warner. This really is a 'what have you done for me lately' league isn't it . He only has the highest passer rating in NFL history.

	26-11-2002 04:31									#87
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As far as the St. Louis game, Martz blew it.

Not for Warner but, for not kicking the tying field goal and on the next play getting the fumble.


ACK!

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Only a Philly fan cheers the injury of a player.

Only New Orleans fans cheer when their own player is injured

	26-11-2002 05:37									#89
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I thought that was Cincy .

	26-11-2002 05:51									#90
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Don't you remember Mora's FAMOUS press conference where he is standing up there saying "That was just SICK" when the New Orleans fans started cheering when their awful quarterback got knocked out of a game.