30-11-2002 02:48									#1
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We talked about the bad sides of dictators for quite a long time, but this poll is quite different. It asks which of the dictators, in your opinion, did more good than bad for their country in their rule.
Example: you could think that Mao is one if you think that unification of China was more important for the Chinese than all the bad he done, etc.

	30-11-2002 03:01									#2
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	30-11-2002 03:03									#3
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If I had to choose one it would be Castro, but then he almost caused a nuclear war (whether he did so inentionally or not).

Lenin just led to Stalin happening whih most certainly wasn't good.

	30-11-2002 03:04									#4
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Umm, who voted for Hitler and Pinochet?

	30-11-2002 03:07									#5
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Jozip Broz (Tito) perhaps?

	30-11-2002 03:09									#6
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red_jon, I voted for Pinochet since I believe that he was a man who modernised Chile and because of him Chile is now quite rich compared to other South American countries. He built the free market economy and if not him Chile would be poor in my opinion. His kill list is also quite small if compared to most of other dictators, especially Hitler, Stalin and Mao (if percentally then also Pol Pot). In my opinion the nation as a whole gained more from him than lost, although it is obvious that those who lost their relatives due to his regime won't agree with me... But then again, they probably not realize that living in a shack in "poor districts" around city, as so many South Americans do, isn't the best thing either...

	30-11-2002 03:09									#7
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Musharaf keeps the islamists away from power... that's good methinks

	30-11-2002 03:10									#8
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I could only just bring myself to vote for Castro. Even then it was damn difficult. Dictators almost by definition do more harm than good.

	30-11-2002 03:16									#9
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Lenin: Improved the USSR, but Stalin f*cked it up.

Castro: Cuba has a relatively good education system compared to most other 3rd world countries.

Musharaff: What Gangerwolf said.

	30-11-2002 03:19									#10
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None of the above.

That answer should be obvious to anyone with even the slightest trace of a brain in their tiny little heads.

	30-11-2002 03:34									#11
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quote: None of the above. That answer should be obvious to anyone with even the slightest trace of a brain in their tiny little heads.

because just being a dictator outweighs anything positive they may have done?

	30-11-2002 03:35									#12
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Fez is banned, so who voted for Franco?

	30-11-2002 03:36									#13
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I have nothing against Lenin, it is just the subsequent events that caused the mess. Tito seemed to be reasonable too by dictator standards...

	30-11-2002 03:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Odin Fez is banned, so who voted for Franco?

Really? how he get banned?

	30-11-2002 03:39									#15
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So what, Provost, Lenin didn't know Stalin would become such a b@st@rd.

	30-11-2002 03:42									#16
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I know It's one of those great 'what ifs' isn't it, if Lenin had lived for another 20 years...

	30-11-2002 03:46									#17
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Hey, when was Fez banned??

	30-11-2002 03:49									#18
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btw, I voted Mussolini as he modernized the country and refused to send italian jews in concentration fields

	30-11-2002 04:49									#19
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*shudder*

I voted Castro. He's vile, but his predecessors were even worse. And unlike, say, Lenin or Khomeini he didn't incite a coup against a weak but potentially good trasitional system, but went straight in, making him a direct improvement, however small.

	30-11-2002 04:53									#20
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Fez always gets banned...it's par for the course around here...

	30-11-2002 05:11									#21
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What's the reason this time?

	30-11-2002 05:31									#22
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I voted Mussolini and Castro, what a mess no?

	30-11-2002 06:07									#23
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Voted Stalin only, helped our glorious nation defeat Germany - Very important.

	30-11-2002 06:27									#24
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Good Dictators:

Augusto Pinochet (Excellent Leader turned Chile into leading market. Was tough on Commies.. but which right-wing dictator isn't?)
Antonio Salazar
Rafael Videla (Just kidding... this guy didn't do anything besides kill 45,000 civilians)
Chiang Kai Shek (Only if he won against the commies in the mainland)
Pervez Musharraf
Francisco Franco (My favorite!)

	30-11-2002 06:47									#25
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Who said Fez is banned ?

Yes, I agree with you about Pinochet and mostly about Franco also. Musharraf isn't great dictator in my opinion though.

	30-11-2002 07:01									#26
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I was unbanned.

Musharraf however is keeping things under control.

	30-11-2002 07:48									#27
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I'd say Franco, Pinochet and Fidel Castro. It's interesting that all the best dictators are from Spanish speaking countries.

	30-11-2002 07:56									#28
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Pinochet was a stadium filling murderous, economically bankrupt shithead.

Franco was also a retard who wrote a book during the Spanish Civil War, instead of being a real general.

	30-11-2002 08:03									#29
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I thought Fez was supposed to be banned untill next friday.

	30-11-2002 08:04									#30
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Blahblahblahblahblahblah... says the leftist.