02-12-2002 06:53									#1
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THE SCREENSHOTS THAT WERE HERE ARE OUTDATED. VONDRACK'S EXCELLENT POST IN THE Chronicle of Legoland THREAD HAS ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS HERE PLUS MORE. GO THERE!

Last edited by Kloreep on 06-12-2002 at 05:08

	02-12-2002 11:01									#2
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Not bad. I hope there's not too much jungle there, but not bad.

	02-12-2002 11:27									#3
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So this is it? I understand that there have been played several turns. Who played it, anyway, and how many turns? I'd like to see the most recent screenshot, if possible.

	02-12-2002 11:29									#4
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Only one turn has been played thus far. It was played by Vondrack on behalf of our team.

	02-12-2002 13:22									#5
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My internet connection failed sometime between 7 and 7:30 EST (I think). I left the computer to do more laundry and watch a bit of Amer. football; when I returned poof! it was gone.

It was back up a few hours later; no problems. But I missed the fun after hours of waiting.

Thank you Vondrack for playing and Kloreep for posting the screen shot.

	02-12-2002 13:32									#6
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I see. So, can somebody (Vondrack?) post a screenshot after the city was built and the worker moved?

	02-12-2002 21:32									#7
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I didn't want to open a new thread for this idea in case people thought it was a bad idea, but can someone (probably the Prez) open a thread entitle something like, "Game Status Update". From there we could get screenshots and a synopsis of what went on in the turn(s): what we did, what we produced, who we talked to/made contact with, etc.

Then, with that thread being referenced, we can decide in other threads what to do.

Good idea? Bad idea?

	02-12-2002 21:42									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Colonel Kraken I didn't want to open a new thread for this idea in case people thought it was a bad idea, but can someone (probably the Prez) open a thread entitle something like, "Game Status Update". From there we could get screenshots and a synopsis of what went on in the turn(s): what we did, what we produced, who we talked to/made contact with, etc. Then, with that thread being referenced, we can decide in other threads what to do. Good idea? Bad idea?

Yes, a good idea. I plan to take care of that either later today or tomorrow. I will probably name it something like "Chronicles of Legoland" and will post everything relevant there, including screenshots. Just give me one or two days, ok? I still have some life beyond 'Poly...

	03-12-2002 03:04									#9
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I was supposed to post an updated screen Vondrack was sending me, but my main account is down, and I'm afraid it hasn't shown up in my secondary account yet.

Vondrack, you can try sending to my main e-mail: benMAPS@surveypoint.com (remove MAPS); I'll see if I can access it an another machine. But if you have your own webspace and want to put it up with your main report, that's okay too.

	03-12-2002 07:54									#10
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Vondrack's screens arrived in my secondary account. I've edited the first post.

	03-12-2002 12:05									#11
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Would it be possible to have a complete screen of Legopolis, i.e with all produced shields / food / commerce ?
Thx in advance

BTW, how come we produce 4 shields already ?

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	03-12-2002 19:07									#12
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Here are some thoughts about our starting pos :

We are in the "savannah" area of the map : just between the equatorial jungle and the tropical desert. It is a narrow line on the East West basis. It means our capital has a great starting pos, but we might have horrible surroundings.

North of us is the desert. It is great for later reources and for luxuries, but for now it sucks, because it means less good places to settle up north.
South of us is the jungle. Our industrious trait will come in extremely handy to clear it. If we manage to have a lasting peace with our neighbours, clearing this jungle will be our major undertaking. I suggest we settle the jungle as soon as we can't settle good places.
It is however possible we find good land north of the desert (or south of the jungle). Maybe we'd want to explore that far to settle these places.

With the cattle, Legopolis will have an incredible importance compared to other cities. It can act as a faster settler farm (2 pop. every 14 turns rather than 20), worker farm, and merc farm. Other cities will pale in comparison.

My conclusion is that we scout as much as possible, because we absolutely need to find good land ASAP. We have ways to settle it rapidly, it is up to us to discover it !

	03-12-2002 19:18									#13
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Good analysis on the geography and Legopolis importance, Spiffor. I agree to everything you said.

As far as the exploration is concerned, I believe that our first warrior should wander eastwards, as that direction promises the most fertile terrain. At least from what we can see right now. Besides, just moving the Warrior one tile eastwards, onto a hill, will hopefully reveal a good deal of our surroundings and we will be able to better decide where to move him to in the next turn.

	03-12-2002 19:21									#14
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	04-12-2002 00:32									#15
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Follow the river and see if there another good site.

Also, I see a second river south of town. It extends from the "Gold" mountain. I there may be a good site over there.

Spiffor....What is a "...tropical desert."?

	04-12-2002 02:42									#16
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quote: Originally posted by lmtoops Spiffor....What is a "...tropical desert."?

It's a desert located at the tropico, like the Sahara. Tropicos are warm, but can bet wet or arid. If wet, they'll become jungles, if arid, deserts.
It seems we have started just north of the equatorial jungle, and just south of the arid tropico, which leaves us very small round for grassland on our longitude

	04-12-2002 04:49									#17
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Excellent analysis, Spiffor.

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor BTW, how come we produce 4 shields already ?

I assume that's because the shot is from the chat save, where AP was on. Now that it's finally off, the warrior should take 5 turns. (I don't think the mine's completion will help, as it should happen on turn 4, but I hope I'm wrong.)

	04-12-2002 05:10									#18
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Indeed , excellent analysis, Spiffor !

I think Kloreep is correct, that screenshot looks to be from the original acclerated production turn.

If what they are saying about accelerated production is correct, the cost of everything will be doubled.

That should mean that:

Warrior will be ready in 5 turns instead of 3
Growth will be in 7 or 8 turns instead of 4
Bronze Working will be available in 18 turns instead of 9

(Could someone check if I am right about these figures?)

quote: (I don't think the mine's completion will help, as it should happen on turn 4, but I hope I'm wrong.)

Hmm, I only voted for mine then road because I thought that the mine would speed up the production of the warrior by one turn.

If not, road then mine would be the better decision (especially as road will only take 1 turn to do and mine 3 turns with our industrious trait)

	04-12-2002 05:24									#19
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Actually, a road takes two turns.

But you're right, we should run a simulation. I'll set up a scenario and test this. (Can't give you a report on anything commerce-related, as I don't have PTW and I'm not sure how much commerce we're producing in the first place.)

	04-12-2002 10:21									#20
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Looking at the extended shots, I think striking out due East with our first warrior will be our best bet. It seems to hold the best indications of clear land in that direction, though it also looks like the jungle may start to thin to the west. I think the first five or so turns of exploration will give us a good sense as to whether we are hemmed in or have some good spots for growth.

	04-12-2002 14:22									#21
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It seems to me that our river stops on the mountain south-east from Legopolis (actually it starts there )
Eastwards there is a shielded grassland and a regular one, but no river. Maybe we should try west, though, going along the river.

However I don't think this is such a problem, because by the time our settler will be ready, we'll have 3 warriors already and a thus good knowledge of the surroundings.

	04-12-2002 15:37									#22
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OK, the Chronicles of Legoland thread contains all the relevant files and screenshots for you to review. I would kindly ask everybody to go through their posts in this thread and edit/update them, so that they refer to the info found in the Chronicle thread. I guess the last thing we need is the confusion caused by outdated information being used over and over. This will be the only time to do that, as no more turns should hopefully be replayed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Kloreep, would you update the links in your first post, so that they refer to the screenshots shown in the Chronicles thread, please?

	05-12-2002 09:05									#23
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Since the Chronicle post has everything here and more, I'm just going to put a big notice at the top to go to the Chronicle thread. I'll probably just take my links down soon.

	06-12-2002 07:25									#24
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I might be too optimistic but I s there a chance that river will lead us t o flood plains?