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NOTES: This is the sequel to cAHNES: 1811. If it had not died, today would be 1865, so that is when this NES begins. All members of cAHNES: 1811 will be able to claim their former country if they wish to do so. Also, be warned, this post is very long and you may not want to read it all.

In 1840, the Post-Napoleonic Peace, which began in 1828, with the end of the Post-Napoleonic Wars, came to a sudden end. In that year, wars broke out throughout the Americas and Europe. In Europe, the war was between Germany, Italy, Russia, and Britain, and Spain, France, Poland, and Morocco. The war began with a skirmish between Germany and Poland. When Russia backed up Germany, it looked to be simply yet another of the many partitionings that Poland has endured throughout history. However, Spain and her puppet France protested, and invaded Germany when they refused to pull out of Poland. Italy, wishing to take the southern half of the peninsula from Spain, and Britain, hoping to take Spain's African colonies, sided with GErmany and Russia. Morocco was offered control of some of Spain's African colonies in exchange for support against Italy and allied with Spain.

In the Americas, a series of at first unrelated wars broke out in 1840. First, Canada wanted to annex Quebec and Alaska. Although the majority of Quebecois and Alaskans agreed, there was a strong minority of dissenters, and civil war plagued Canada's new provinces. Meanwhile, in Latin America, another crisis was unfolding. Spain had attempted to recolonize the island of Cuba. All of the Latin American nations and the WCI protested, but NATO defended Spain. In late 1839, though, the American president died suddenly, and the new president sided with Cuba. In 1840, after Spain refused to leave Cuba, the Latin American nations and the US declared war on Spain and France, their ally. Colmbia seized French Guiana and the US invaded Florida. In response, Louisiana attacked the US, but found that their civil war-torn ally in the north remained neutral! Facing new attacks from Mexico and the WCI who backed up the US, Louisiana was hopeless. The third and final war in the Americas was relatively small. In November 1840 Mexico and Columbia invaded Honduras and Costa Rica, whose governments were in shambles. Brazil and Argentina used this as an excuse to settle border disputes and declared war on Columbia.

In Europe, Poland surrendered in 1841. France was partitioned by Italy, Germany, and Britain, while Britain took all of Spain. Morocco was split between Britain and Italy. Britain also took France and Spain's Asian and African colonies, except for a small area in AFrica that was taken by Germany. By 1844 the war had ended. and Britain was reestablished as a superpower and Germany and Italy became forces to be reckoned with.

In the Americas, the civil war in Alaska and QUebec ended in 1842 with a decisive Canadian victory. In the main conflict, the US, Mexico, and the WCI won. They partitioned Louisiana, ending the country's life in 1843, just before its 40th birthday. Spain, faced with invasion at home, lost Florida to the US. Cuba and France's Caribbean colonies also joined the US. In South America, Mexico and Columbia easily defeated Honduras and Costa Rica. The war between Columbia and Brazil and Argentina never became a major conflict; in 1842 they met in Caracas and agreed to new borders favorable to all parties.

Thus ended the Wars of Resolution, for they resolved the unresolved problems from the Napoleonic era and Napoleon's death. After this war, the world enjoyed another long period of piece. During this time, the only areas of conflict were Africa, where the European powers began to expand their colonies, and Columbia and Brazil, where military dictators seized power. It was a period of peace trade, and rebuilding.

But all good things must come to an end. In 1852, the peace began to dissolve. What started as a small rebellion of an Indian tribe in Western Canada exploded into a full-scale declaration of independence of 39 tribes in Western Canada, most in the the area just north of the WCI border. They declared themselves independent as the Republic of Western Canada. Obviously, Canada was not happy about this, and invaded the new republic. In 1853, a bit into the invasion, the WCI decided to recognize Western Canada, as did Mexico. The US decided to stay neutral, but some northern egalitarianists and abolitionists supported the Westerners. However, at that time, the US would stay neutral.

The war in Canada, which many Canadians expected to only last a few months, was a atalemate. The Westerners had the advantage of being the defenders, and were aided by the WCI. In 1855, the WCI (and Mexico) and Canada finally officially went to war.

At this point, the war cahnged from a relatively small war to a major war. Coumbia and Brazil had been allied ever since military dictators ahd taken control of the two countries in 1847. Columbia and Mexico had been rivals since 1848, and Columbia used Mexico's support of West Canada, a "rebellious, lawless, and injust regime," according to Columbia, as an excuse to invade. Brazil backed their ally up, and by the summer of 1856 the allied forces had taken the Yucatan peninsula and were heading for Mexico City.

That summer, with the Columbians pushing ever further into Mexico, and Canada starting to break into the West Canada/WCI defenses, when all hope seemd to be lost for the West Canada-WCI-Mexico alliance, they suddenly received aid from Britain, Russia, and Argentina! New leaders were elected in Britain who recognized West Canada and invaded Canada! Russia, their loyal allies who also hoped to retake Alaska, also invaded. Argentina sympathized with the plight of the West Canadians and hoped to return democracy to Brazil and Columbia. As Argentinian forces advanced, Colubmian and Brazilian forces in Mexico retreated to help defend the homeland.

In 1857, the US came to the verge of a civil war. Both slavery and the war surrounding them divided the nation, with the Republican north antislavery and antiCanada and the Democratic south proslavery and proCanada. With the election of a Republican to the presidency, many states were comtemplating secession. However, two things stopped them. The first was that the Democrats still had control of the Senate. SEcondly, they had an ideologically dilemma. How could they support their own right to secede but oppose that of Western Canada?

In early 1858, the war became truly a world war. Germany, Italy, and Turkey allied against Russia and Britain. Using their advantage of surprise, Germany and Italy quickly seized British France, Italy invaded Spain, and Germany and Trukey invaded Russia. This caused Britain and Russia to have to withdraw most of their troops from Canada.

A year later, 12 states seceded from the US and formed the CSA. They had lost the SEnate in the 1858 election, and developed a philosophy that would justify their right ot rebel but not West Canada's. They declared war on the US, Mexico and the WCI. The US made alliances with Canada and the WCI and declared war on Canada.

For 5 years the war raged on. The CSA, Canada, Columbia, Brazil, Germany, Italy, and the Ottoman Empire, or the Great Alliance (GA), fought the USA, West Canada, the WCI, Mexico, Argentina, Britain, and Russia, called the Free Allied Nations (FAN). AS the war progressed, it became more global. In 1859, Russia and Britain found an ally in Persia, who was eager to get revenge for earlier wars with the Ottomans. In Africa the Zulus and in Asia Siam helped Germany seize British colonies in 1860 and 1861. In 1861 the wars in South America and Canada ended. In South America, Argentina surrendered and gave up quite a bit of land to Columbia and Brazil. Mexico also made peace with Columbia, forfeiting a small area of land. In Canada, WEst Canada finally fell. Some of the southernmost tribes joined the WCI, and the rest fell to Canada.

By the winter of 1861-2, it had become clear the Great Alliance was winning. Spain had fallen, as had most of the BRitish colonies. Ottoman forces had pierced Persian defenses and marched into the Caucasus. Northern Scandinavia and POland surrendered to Germany. In North America, Washington and then Philadelphia had fallen to the CSA, but the Yankees fought on from their new capital in Boston. Canada, finished with its Civil War, invaded the US and fought to a stalemate with the WCI. In the Southwest, the WCI was losing ground to the CSA.

That winter, all nations sent delegates to Rio de Janeiro to create a peace treaty. By the summer of 1862, they had found reasonable temporary terms for a cease fire. Although some fighting continued, most ended before the delegates finally developed a treaty all nations could agree to on February 3rd, 1863.

The Treaty of Rio de Janeiro can mainly be seen in the map below, but there are a few other things to mention. First, the CSA, Zululand, and Siam gained recognition from all nations. The US was forbidden from having a navy beyond trading ships or an army larger than medium. Britain was forbidden from further colonization of Africa.

In South America the war was know as the Argentine War. In North America it was the Great Civil Wars. In Europe it was the War of the Colonies. Everywhere, though, it was called the Great War.

Now it is 1865. Two years have passed since the Treaty of Rio De Janeiro. The popularity of the German leaders furing the war has made them elected to rule for life, essentially as dictotors. In Italy similarly glorified leaders have been given so much power they will be entrenched and also be like dictators. In Britain, new leadership has come to power, who knows what new policies they will pursue? The two great alliances have fallen apart, and only small remnants of the once omnipotent blocs remain.

Other notes: The white areas of teh map are controlled by small kingdoms/chiefdoms. TEch level is early-mid Industrial, except when stated to be something else.

Nations:
Canada (dark blue)
Large army
Medium navy
Republic
Ruler: trickey
Allies: CSA
Friends: Columbia, Germany
Enemies: USA, WCI
War: None

WCI (purple)
Large army
Small navy
Confederate Republic
Ruler: civman2000
Allies: Mexico
Friends: USA
Enemies: Canada, CSA
War: None

USA (sky blue)
Small army (limited to medium by Treaty of Rio de Janeiro)
No navy (limited to none by Treaty of Rio de Janeiro)
Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: WCI, Mexico
Enemies: Canada, CSA
War: None

CSA (brown)
Medium army
Medium navy
Confederate Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: Canada
Friends: Columbia, Germany
Enemies: USA, WCI, Mexico
War: None

Mexico (pink)
Medium army
Small navy
Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: WCI
Friends: USA
Enemies: CSA, Columbia
War: None

Columbia (green)
Large army
Small navy
Military Dictatorship
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: CSA, Canada, Brazil
Enemies: Mexico
War: None

Brazil (pale blue)
Medium army
Medium navy
Military Dictatorship
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: Columbia
Enemies: Argentina
War: None

Argentina (lavender)
Large army
Small navy
Republic
Ruler: foolish_icarus
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: Brazil
War: None

Britain (orange)
Medium army
Large navy
Republic
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: None
War: None

Germany (red)
Large army
Large navy
De Facto Benign Dictatorship
Ruler: Otto VII (Sheep)
Allies: Italy
Friends: CSA, Canada, Siam, Zulus
Enemies: Russia
War: None

Italy (pale yellow)
Medium army
Medium navy
De Facto Benign Dictatorship
Ruler: ??
Allies: Germany
Friends: None
Enemies: None
War: None

Russia (puke brown)
Large army
Small navy
Autocracy
Ruler: Jack_www
Allies: None
Friends: Persia
Enemies: Germany, China
War: None

Ottoman Empire (gray)
Large army
Medium navy
Semi-theocratic Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: Persia
War: None

Ethiopia (medium blue)
Medium army
Small navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: None
War: None
Other: Tech is mid middle ages

Zululand (dark green)
Medium army
Small navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: Germany
Enemies: None
War: None
Other: Tech is early-mid middle ages

Persia (blue-green)
Medium army
Small navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: Russia
Enemies: Ottomans
War: None

China (yellow)
Large army
Medium navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: Russia, Japan
War: None
Other: Tech is late middle ages. Isolationist

Japan (maroon)
Small army
Medium navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: China
War: None
Other: Tech is mid-late middle ages. Isolationist

Siam (light green)
Medium army
Small navy
Monarchy
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: Germany
Enemies: None
War: None
Other: Tech is late middle ages.

Union of Australian Aboriginal Kingdoms (UAAK) (sea green)
Large army
Small navy
Confederacy of Limited Monarchies
Ruler: ??
Allies: None
Friends: None
Enemies: None
War: None
Other: Tech is late ancient-early middle ages. Britain, Siam, and Germany are vaguely aware of its existence but have no contact, and no one else has heard of them. Very primitive and isolated.

I'm at school right now, the map will be posted when i get home.

Last edited by civman2000 on 04-12-2002 at 18:16

	03-12-2002 01:08									#2
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I'll be the WCI.

To Canada and the CSA: Let's be friends. I'll stop supporting the US in exchange for a pledge of friendship from you and reopening trade. (To teh CSA only): Would you interested in building a transcontinental railroad with me?

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What happened to Qubec. I was Qubec. and I want Qubec once more.

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I will be the Second German Reich, seeming as you took Qubec from me.

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I would like to be Russia again.

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The German Leadership, headed by the Fuher and Chancellor, Otto von Bismark, would like to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with the British people and if they wish. Thsi will ensure that German and British boys do not die in a needless war once again. Also we would like to continue the Rome-Berlin Axis. Italy wouldf you remain my ally?

The German Chancellor later on was named the First Emperor of the Second Reich. This Bismark dynasty took the throne in Berlin, the Imperial Capital. Outside the crowds waived and cheered for the beloved Emperor Otto VII. (Otto's I to VI were in the First Reich) The Second Reich, the global German Empire has been proclaimed.

German Prjects:

German African and Indian colonisation : 3yrs (20% of the Werhchmact will expand the German territories in the sub-continent and Africa)
German Werchmact (Army) to Very Large (currently at 15 armies of 150,000 men each, going to 20 armies) : 4yrs
German Naval Programme: (Large to Very LArge (300 ships to 450ships 25 capital ships to 30) : 5yrs

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To Germany (secret): The CSA and Canada are getting too powerful for you to be able to trust them. Ally with me and we can stop them from being able to cahllenge your supremacy.

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To United States:
We wish to form an alliance with you. We see the growing power of CSA and Canada and wish to help in your fight against them.

To Great Britain(secret):
We also wish to from an alliance with your country. We must work togather to contact the German threat. We also wondering if you can help in expainding our navy?
We also see that there is much to be gained by expaining into China. Would you care to help us and we can both set up spheers of influence over China.

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Russian ports are now constructing more ships for the navy. They are now running at full capacity and will be producing 40 ships a year, thus the Russian navy will expand to medium in 4 years.

Also Russian army is stationing a large portion of its forces along the Chinese border, about 300,000 men and 1200 cannons. 150,000 of them are the best Calvry units of the Russian Empire.

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i'll play. If its alright, i'll be argentina

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im in for sure...just gotta go read the first post now....damn thats long civman

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((Ive got Canada (gotta love playing your home country ))


To Germany: Hello my good friend, many thanks in the war not to long ago. I have come up with an idea tha could greatly benfit both of our nations. Free trade. We will freely let our people exchange items, putting no tax in thir revenues, and no restrictions. What do you think?

Also, would you care to exchange some of your sturdy German WorkHorses for our Canadian fur?

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Argentina's main focus is on economic/industrial/scientific development. Significant amount of budget is on civil projects and domestic improvements. Small amount of money is being used on improving military, both army and navy are slowly being upgraded.

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The German Kaiser Otto VI has relesed the following statement.

'The fate of the German people lay with their friends in Canada and the Confederated States of America. Everywhere we will continue to fight tyranny, tyranny that we suffered many years ago at the hands of Napoleon Sheep, and then the might of Russia and Spain. We continue our alliance with Rome and continue our commitments with Richmond and Winnipeg.

In Europe Russia tries to encircle the great German people with an alliance with Britian. I call upon the British people to remain neutral as the Russia people are in the worng.

In Asia and Africa the German Reich and its allies continues to expand. We call upon the enlightened Emperor of Japan to sign accords with the German people in the hope that we may one day have our rightful place in the sun.

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to brazil from argentina

it is time to put our past conflicts behind us. Being paranoid and hostile to one another helps neither of us. If we can work together then our nations will prosper. Let us open up trade between our nations once again and enjoy the rewards cooperation will bring.

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Message sent anonymously to Otto and also slipped into a few pamphlets and newspapers in GErmany: "If you oppose tyranny, why do you support the CSA and Canada? The CSA uses the worst tyranny of all, slavery. Both nations have seized the land and wellbeing of the Indians. Indeed, some recent developments may make you border on being a tyrant."

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The Russian government is trynaical. The German Kaiser and his Reichstag does not wish to see an extenstion of Russian power. Therefore we stand with our support of the CSA and Canda. However if you wish to sign another accord we would be willing to do this.

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To Germany: We fail to see what wanting to limit Russia has to do with supporting Canada and the CSA.

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To WIC:
We can ally with you in stoping CSA and Canada. In fact the Czar of Russia has made slavery illegal, and has started to give more power to the Congress that was set up 50 years ago. We wish to stop them and Germany form spreading Tranny all over the world.

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I will take the Ottoman Empire. First diplomatic actions:

To England: It would be wise to ally with us.

To Germany: We propose a peace treaty, so we can both concentrate out military efforts elsewhere.

To Italy: If you allow us to expand southward, we have no problem with your country ruling NW africa.

To Russia: Persia needs to be destroyed. Would you join an alliance against it?

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To Russia (secret): SOunds good, we're allies. Who else should we look to for allies? If we can convince CHina to open up they might be a valuable ally against GErmany's colonies/virtual puppet state of Siam. Also, I think Zululand and Ethiopia would be useful. Although the Zulus sided with GErmany int he Great War, I think we can convince them that GErmany and Italy are getting too strong and will soon take over all of Africa if we don't stop them now.

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Argentinian navy, with help from expanding merchant marine and growing trade fleet has begun securing pacific atols and tiny islands for criminals of very bad acts. usable islands are also being settled as semi-atonomous colonies and perimeter military defense bases. Further expeditions, both private and state sponsered, are being sent into Pacific to further open up islands for Argentinian use. (Falkland Is. also, if they haven't been claimed.) Argentina is also open to trading goods, skills, labors, and knowledge/technology with any nation. tariffs are low for all and for new techs and industries/businesses tariffs are nonexistent

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The German government asks the Arghentines to enter an agreement in the intrests of all peoples. An alliance toi make sure the Argentinian and German people are not denied what is righfully theirs.

The new German Kaiser seeing what the CSA is doing in relation to their negros has asked for manuition. The Negro population is to once again be free. We also support the Canadians.

The German African colonies and Asian colonies have grown again, as the Japanese accpet the German alliance. Zululand has also been a member for many years.

INFO: THE AXIS ALLIANCE

Member countries: Germany, Italy, Zululand, Japan, Siam, Confederate States of America, Canada.

Pending (being asked to join): Britain, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Ehtipoia??

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ooc: whoa, that alliance looks a little powerful, eh?

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Internal Argentinian actions:

one month before election government discovered in bribery plot and corrupt schemes are uncovered in almost all parts of administration! Reform party sweeps elections in following months. Reform party (official name: Merit and Justice Party) reorganizes gov to weed out corruption and end favoring of special interest groups. Emphasis on economy and industrializing remains, but with emphasis on prosperity for working classes. Middlemen and investors no longer subsidized. Investment continues, but without protection from government, emphasizing productivity by actually working and producing some material or service. Government also hires unemployed for civil projects. pacific island colonies reorginized as specialty communes, semi-autonomous but fully participating in the Argentinian economy and advancement. Peasants from Brazil and Colombia are beginning to sneak across border into Argentina. Argentina (officially) attempts to stop refugees, but claims protection for all that are already in Argentina and willing to become productive citizens. Relations with Colombia are cold and with Brazil are tense.

To germany from Argentina

we would certainly like to pursue friendly relations, and support all efforts to bring a good quality of life to your citizens. We will certianly formalize treaties of cooperation and trade. However, as we see no threats to our (or your) liberty or prosperity in other countries, we will decline a military alliance. Economic/industrial cooperation we would love to have.

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To WIC:
We want to have Britain and the United States join our alliance as well. Germany and their evil allies must be stoped. If you wish to have any others join our alliance just speak up. Currently we though are not open to allying with China. But if they conitnue in their ways, we will have it so China is allied with us. China is a growing threat to the Russian Empire, and so is Japan as well.

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OOC: 1 day=1 year. Also, Sheep, I don't think you can claim that Japan would ally with you. They are isolationist. Also, good luck trying to get Mexico as an ally, they are very closely allied with the WCI.

To Russia: Agreed.

Secret offers of alliance have been sent to Britain, the US, Zululand, and Ethiopia.

TO China (someone should really take China): I know you don't like us Westerners, but you must talk to us. Germany and Siam are your enemies. Germany has hopes of colonizing all of Asia and Africa, which includes you! Ally with me and Russia and you will get a favorable settlement of teh border dispute you have with Russia (OOC if russia objects say so and this will be cut out of the message) and Siam. Germany's plan to conquer you will be stopped.

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Dear Russia: What are those troops of yours doing on my border, please retreat a little, you are upseting my mother.

Signed
Otto von Bismark, Kaiser of the German Reich

To China
We are not the ones who wish to colonise you, we only hope we can defend you once the inevitable Russian invasion begins. Trust me, never trust a Russian, or its lapdog.

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OOC, since no one's china and they're an important part, i'll speak for them until someone takes them.

China to WCI and Germany: Evil Western devils, leave us alone! We are content with ourselves and have no wish to become involved in your conniving. ALlying with foreigners has never brought and never will bring happiness to China.

Now as the WCI:
To GErmany (TOP TOP SECRET even in the WCI only the Grand Chief knows about this (he's pretty corrupt)): WE are only pretending to be allied with Russia. Ally with me and I will tell you all of his plans.

OOC: Since no one controls the countries I offered alliances to, I'll say the US and Ethiopia accepted. Zululand flatly rejected the proposal and Britain has yet to decide (someone should take them).

To the US, Ethiopia, and Russia: Let's start planning our attack on the evil Germans and their allies.