09-12-2002 18:00									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DanielXY If its still open I would like to join and take Egypt Im online at least every 8h, so doing my turns in time shouldnt be a problem...

Maybe DanielXY still wants to play ? He wanted Egypt, i could give my position to him.

Sorry for not checking the thread during sat or sun but i was not so much at home during the weekend

	09-12-2002 18:00									#62
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Conqueror :
It's quite simple.

We decided on the regions system, and North America was already taken. As you said, you werent here, so we didnt know what you prefer and chose Egypt.

	09-12-2002 18:02									#63
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Ok. I'll try to pm him later, but maybe we should wait and see what the others think... it's not like we have played much (1 turn)

	09-12-2002 18:04									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Conqueror : It's quite simple. We decided on the regions system, and North America was already taken. As you said, you werent here, so we didnt know what you prefer and chose Egypt.

Hmmm... actually he was the first one to choose an American civ...

	09-12-2002 18:05									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Conqueror : It's quite simple. We decided on the regions system, and North America was already taken. As you said, you werent here, so we didnt know what you prefer and chose Egypt.

Eli, i posted my civ choise already in the 1st page of this thread. I clearly stated wanting to be the Americans.

At that point i was the first to take any civ from north america. Maybe reading the thread helps about not knowing. Damn it seems like one should be 24/7 at home.

	09-12-2002 18:07									#66
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quote: Btw: I couldn't change the number of babarians, so I guess it's map default = Lots of them (I'm playing another game on that map, which has tons of babarians...)

In the editor :
Scenario--> Scenario Properties --> Map Options->the Select Barbarian Activity box.

	09-12-2002 18:08									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Conqueror Eli, i posted my civ choise already in the 1st page of this thread. I clearly stated wanting to be the Americans. At that point i was the first to take any civ from north america. Maybe reading the thread helps about not knowing. Damn it seems like one should be 24/7 at home.

Sorry, my mistake.

Then you should clearly get the Americans and Dissident should choose another civ.

	09-12-2002 18:09									#68
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Bit of my own stupidity too, because i forgot to tell about being quite busy in the weekend. I was too exited about the before-christmas party we had sat evening with the people from work

	09-12-2002 18:13									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Sorry, my mistake. Then you should clearly get the Americans and Dissident should choose another civ.

After having a look at the players/Civs, I guess it'll have to be jshelr (who's playing as Iriquois) who should change, since Iriquois is closer to America... (My mistake, forgot that some player was playing as Iriquois)

	09-12-2002 18:15									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Eli quote: Btw: I couldn't change the number of babarians, so I guess it's map default = Lots of them (I'm playing another game on that map, which has tons of babarians...) In the editor : Scenario--> Scenario Properties --> Map Options->the Select Barbarian Activity box.

Thx... I haven't played that much around the editor It was set to random, now it's set to Roaming

	09-12-2002 18:16									#71
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Yeah, I always forget that the Aztecs are closer to central america.

Whoever wanted a North American civ second, should change it. Agreed?

	09-12-2002 18:19									#72
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Agreed. I just sent a PM to jshelr, just to make sure, he still reads this thread

	09-12-2002 18:24									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Whoever wanted a North American civ second, should change it. Agreed?

But that would mean you all have to play the 1st turn over.
If you can do that its really nice from you guys
BTW if my text sounds strange or offensive, its just because i had "some" whiskey at the party and my head is STILL aching

If thats about to happen, then you'll need my email address, its conqueror123@suomi24.fi
Also i was not very bright about not leaving it here in the first place.

	09-12-2002 18:38									#74
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quote: But that would mean you all have to play the 1st turn over.

The Barbs were set on the wrong level anyway.

Btw, ADG : Corruption (for Regent level) is on 75%, right?

	09-12-2002 18:46									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Eli The Barbs were set on the wrong level anyway.

But the huts are on, right ? Atleast I didnt find any info about them being off so i presume they are enabled.
If not - i think the expansionist trait goes down the toilet

	09-12-2002 18:50									#76
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Even though my wife was Iriquois and my people have been in America since the 1600s you are going to make me switch. That's, that's.......unAmerican

Frankly, forgive me, but I can't figure out what's open at this point. Egypt always starts on Earth maps in the middle of the Sarhara desert -- so that's out. Are there any industrious civs left to place somewhere.

BTW, North America without two civs is a bit uncrowded, don't you think

	09-12-2002 18:57									#77
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Free regions :
Oceania.
North Africa
South&Central Africa
Russia.

	09-12-2002 18:58									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Btw, ADG : Corruption (for Regent level) is on 75%, right?

Yes... unless it somehow has changed back, it should be set to 75%...

quote: Originally posted by Conqueror But the huts are on, right ? Atleast I didnt find any info about them being off so i presume they are enabled. If not - i think the expansionist trait goes down the toilet

I couldn't find a way to turn them off, so I assume they're still on (I saw a hut, in the first round )

quote: Originally posted by jshelr (...) you are going to make me switch. That's, that's.......unAmerican

Well... I'm no American, so...

quote: Originally posted by jshelr Frankly, forgive me, but I can't figure out what's open at this point. Egypt always starts on Earth maps in the middle of the Sarhara desert -- so that's out. Are there any industrious civs left to place somewhere. BTW, North America without two civs is a bit uncrowded, don't you think

Well... there's not many Civs to choose from. I think there's:
Russia, Egypt, Zulu, Cartigan... well...AFAIR, that's it... (If you choose Russia, the two AI's will become two of the Civs in Africa...

	09-12-2002 18:59									#79
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quote: BTW, North America without two civs is a bit uncrowded, don't you think

Maybe we should have a North American civ who will take a large part of NA, a South American civ who will take a large part of SA and a Central American civ who will take CA and small parts of both NA and SA.

If I remember the map correctly, the CA civ can only be Aztecs and there is no one in SA.

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I can live with jshelr being in N-America because the start positions really are not too close to each other. The Iroquois start on west coast and Americans on the East coast, i dont think that we will even make contact very early

	09-12-2002 19:04									#81
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Why not mother Russia, assuming we still have huts in this game.

I had a hut in my initial city radius on the first round, by the way. I was hoping for a settler pop which requires that you not have an active settler. It is ambiguous whether popping the hut by founding a city can ever produce a settler. Anyone know? Anyway, I moved one square away to make sure.

Settler pop dreams are now shattered

	09-12-2002 19:10									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Conqueror I can live with jshelr being in N-America because the start positions really are not too close to each other. The Iroquois start on west coast and Americans on the East coast, i dont think that we will even make contact very early

Hmmm... that's not how the Iroquois are placed on this map. They're actually just above the Americans, but if they belong to the west coast, I can quickly change it. I don't know where they belong...

	09-12-2002 19:13									#83
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Hm. I remember playing one version of Kal-Els earth map where iroquois started on West coast and Americans on the east. They were almost the same latitude too.

That would solve the problem here, unless jshelr opposes being on west coast ? Propably not ?

	09-12-2002 19:16									#84
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They usually start in Toronto I'd be happy to start in St Louis. The West Coast is the rocky mountains, not very salubrious.

	09-12-2002 19:16									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Conqueror Hm. I remember playing one version of Kal-Els earth map where iroquois started on West coast and Americans on the east. They were almost the same latitude too. That would solve the problem here, unless jshelr opposes being on west coast ? Propably not ?

Yeah, that'll solve the problem. What do say to this jshelr?

	09-12-2002 19:18									#86
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cross post. Give me liberty in Saint Louis or give me vodka in Russia.

	09-12-2002 19:20									#87
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Now is the big question: Where's St Louis?

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quote: Yes... unless it somehow has changed back, it should be set to 75%...

Can you please recheck over and over again? This can potentially screw the game.

	09-12-2002 19:24									#89
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www.expedia.com -> maps great source of information.

St Louis is almost where the Amers start Maybe Denver or Salt Lake City ?

	09-12-2002 19:24									#90
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About half way down the big river in the middle of the continent. Probably, the states are not marked clearly on the map, but it's in Missouri.

Give me Russia. Let the damn Americans throw the Indians out again. I don't care