14-12-2002 02:59									#241
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That is going to be a great matchup (9ers v. Pack). I can't wait to see who comes out of that.

	14-12-2002 08:22									#242
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Richter is a class act, but he's been a third-rate goalie for a few years now. Long past time he retired.

Good article about Marty Turco in SI this week. The man was a god here in Ann Arbor. I **** you not, his career record in games where he went into the third period with a lead: 103-0-2. (Or something obscene like that; I'm 100% certain it is >100 wins, and 95% certain it is zero losses.)

	14-12-2002 08:25									#243
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49ers have a lot of RB injuries right now.

	14-12-2002 09:47									#244
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9ers need a running game this week. Pack has been exposed in not being able to defense the run.

They better hope Hearst has some legs left.

	14-12-2002 10:58									#245
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quote: Richter is a class act, but he's been a third-rate goalie for a few years now.

That does seem to be the case when you are on a team with a shitty defense. Believe me, it wasn't Richter that was the problem. Without him they'd be much worse off (but better in terms of picks).

	14-12-2002 13:12									#246
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The goalie is only as good as his defense. Great goalies can do a lot for their teams, but if the defense keeps letting people shoot point blank on him, even the best will suck.

And the Black Hawks gave up the tieing goal with like 8 seconds left. The game ended in a tie. The defense broke down, and the goalie didn't stand a chance... sigh.

I guess they will settle for a road tie.

	14-12-2002 13:18									#247
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Ah a tie... the story of Chicago sports... no wait... that would be a loss .

	14-12-2002 13:48									#248
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Be nice

It was a tough one to watch. They had struggled to a 1 - 0 lead... and then a complete breakdown of the defense with less than 10 seconds left.. sigh.

We had missed an empty net goal seconds earlier, and two other shots hit the post... typical

	14-12-2002 13:51									#249
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Nice?

Ming, you know everyone in Chicago says the teams there suck. I was just joining in .

	14-12-2002 13:55									#250
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I agree... they all suck (except the Wolves, our second rate hockey team).

Maybe next year... at least the Cubs are moving in the right direction, and since they sucked last year, it means they will make a run at the playoffs this year. The pitching staff is solid, and we dumped some dead wood.

A relief staff would be a nice improvement... sigh.

	14-12-2002 14:02									#251
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Well if the Cubs got Pudge, then they could definetly make a good run.

	14-12-2002 14:06									#252
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It would be nice. The experts are saying that we are the best bet. I hope they are right. After a year of Hundley.... ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The management seems willing to spend the money. Last year, when they need a closer, they bought the best closer available, but he ended up sucking

If Pudge ends up in Chicago... Hope Springs Eternal

	14-12-2002 14:13									#253
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Of course, he might decide he likes the weather in St. Louis better .

Just kidding .

	14-12-2002 14:19									#254
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At this point... who knows. But our management is making a serious attempt. We shall see. It would be nice to see a catcher ABLE TO THROW TO SECOND BASE for a change. Last year was pathetic with Hundley...

	14-12-2002 14:27									#255
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Hey, you signed him . Can't blame anyone but your own GMs.

	14-12-2002 20:07									#256
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quote: Originally posted by Ming If Pudge ends up in Chicago... Hope Springs Eternal

hope springs eternal every year in chicago with cubs fans. I think that most of them have been smoking something other than tobbacco

	14-12-2002 20:12									#257
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What's a pisser is that Pudge could play for nothing at this point.
It's not like he's on welfare or anything.
Ahhh, for the days of mutual loyalties.

	14-12-2002 21:28									#258
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MUTUAL LOYALTIES... The owners of the team screwed him... And why should he play for nothing just because the owners can't afford him anymore thanks to "somebody" else on the team who is making too much money

	15-12-2002 03:21									#259
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Btw, I spent the last few hours watching (on ESPN2) watching an incredibly exciting college football D1-AA Semifinal game! Unfortunetly #3 Georgia Southern lost to #14 Western Kentucky (I guess that meant #3 didn't deserve to go ).

Now for the DII championship game! Grand Valley v. Valdosta!

	15-12-2002 04:10									#260
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I agree... I've been watching the playoffs today as well.

To Bad 1-A doesn't do that. What a great playoff that would have been this year

	15-12-2002 04:22									#261
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Yep... some great games... lost .

An hour and a half until the Heisman's awarded .

	15-12-2002 04:28									#262
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That's the real shame... there could have been some GREAT games, but alas... now we get cheesy bowl games that mean very little, and what will probably be a boring championship game. College Football fans got screwed AGAIN this year

	15-12-2002 04:33									#263
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quote: Originally posted by Ming MUTUAL LOYALTIES... The owners of the team screwed him... And why should he play for nothing just because the owners can't afford him anymore thanks to "somebody" else on the team who is making too much money

Who? Alex Rodriquez? He does things no other SS has ever done.
At least the league is attempting some type of slary structure/cap.
If one wanted to be totally fair, you'd pay all 8 positions the same.

	15-12-2002 04:36									#264
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Sure... Alex is great... but because of his contract, the owners won't offer Pudge what he really deserves. So they have told this LOYAL player that he can play for them for FAR less than he deserves, or he can leave...

So why should he be loyal to them... They screwed him

	15-12-2002 04:36									#265
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Yeah, all the players are overpaid... but you can't fault A-Rod. He didn't force Hicks to give him that money. And besides... unlike the Hamptons, Delgados and Griffeys, he's done nothing but produce... A-Rod's a run producer at the highest level, while playing a position where run production is a bonus.

	15-12-2002 04:39									#266
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I don't fault A-Rod... he is one of the players that is worth the money. And yes, all players are overpaid, and the owners only have themselves to blame.

I was just responding to Slow's comments that Pudge wasn't being loyal to his team. And frankly, he should piss on the side of the stadium on the way out of town because he has been treated like crap.

	15-12-2002 04:40									#267
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I an't believe I'm standing up at all for Ranger management, but the salary structure shifts came after his deal was done, screwing the team in general, and Pudge in particular, and the fans the most.
Yeah, it's a good thing to have, but there would have been fallout any time.

	15-12-2002 04:53									#268
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So don't abuse Pudge for his lack of loyality... Management could pay him if they wanted to... but they don't.

	15-12-2002 04:54									#269
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I was just responding to Slow's comments that Pudge wasn't being loyal to his team. And frankly, he should piss on the side of the stadium on the way out of town because he has been treated like crap.

True... but loyalty has no place in baseball, or any pro sport, anymore. Look at the NFL... blow out a knee, and watch your contract get voided so that the team can free some cap space the following year. Baseball owners would do that as as well, if they could as easily. It's a business... for that matter, employer-employee loyalty in the land of normal people vanished sometime after the 60s, I think.

Not to change the subject, but have we already decided who wins the Heisman? McGahee convinced me with those last 6 TDs, but Johnson's 2K yards looks impressive.

	15-12-2002 05:00									#270
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True... these is very little loyality left in any sport. And that's why I got pissed at Slow for his attack on Pudge for his lack of loyality to the fans. Loyality is a two way street, and the Rangers management was asking for it to be one way street... screw em. Pudge deserved better.