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Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
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Originally posted by Sava
Because the Titanic itself has always been a sort of pop-culture worship topic. Big deal, the ship sank. And a whole bunch of rich people and then-celebrities died. |
The vast majority of people who died were poor immigrants and crew members. One of the chief effects of the disaster was the drawing of more attention to the plight of such people who were essentially left to fend for themselves while the wealthy escaped in lifeboats. It was the last gasp for the Victorian legacy of rights based on class stratification. It also ushered in a host of innovations in travel safety, wireless communications and ship design. It was not a meaningless event.
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So many people think the Titanic was a very important historical event. Bah... there are so many more important things in history... you almost never hear about how the Japanese massacred the Chinese during the 30's, for instance, or how the Turks massacred the Armenians... |
I don't think most histories of the Titanic disaster exaggerate its importance. It is a social event, not a geo-political one. No one will assert it changed political history. But you can't deny it had tremendous impact on Western society. The mere fact that it has become a part of common language and is so written about, filmed, etc. and inspires such fascination shows it has had an impact on culture. Not a day goes by that someone doesn't compare some dire situation to "like being on the Titanic," or something like that.
One has to think that any event that is so ingrained in our culture as this is must be of some significance.
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The amount of effort and money put in to this Titanic legend worship sickens me. |
We're talking prior to the film, right? I mean, prior to the film, not much was spent on it. It certainly didn't draw the kind of enthusiasts as things like Star Trek, Star Wars, WWII, etc.
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And when the movie came out, it only got worse... then having to hear about "oh Titanic is the highest grossing movie ever, it's the greatest movie of all time"... PLEASE... Leonardo DiCrapio is a terrible actor... |
I agree about that stuff, but I don't see it as affecting the event itself. My despising of the movie is irrelevant to the disaster itself.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:24
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Some things change as they become more popular. For example, a few years ago, I bought a Ja Rule CD. I liked him but then within a year, he had become far more commercial making all those love/sex songs... now all his fans are teenie-bopper girls and I liked him years ago when he was hardcore
thanks
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:24
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Hobbes:
Artsy and geeky cool? Where the **** you live?
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:24
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that does remind me of other things though... the inner-city is like the base of modern culture now and it always ticks me off when everything from clothing styles to slang words quickly spreads into the suburbs and ****. We created those things here and in two years, they're in the mainstream.
In a year or two, yall in the burbs will start hearing people saying "thats the jawn" if something is good and "that **** wings" if it's bad. People will start wearing plain 3X-6XL white tee shirts and dyed black jeans or jeans with what seems like random stitching on the legs. and not to mention the skullies which came out when I was in 7th grade and are probably spreading.
thanks
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:24
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Garage rock? emo? Jack Kerouac? Allen Ginsberg? What the hell?
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