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Can things get too popular? (Time out:0 days after 13-12-2002, 18:56)
Yes: The masses suck and I don't want any part of those people!
No: Quality is distinct from popularity, and if something is good it is irrelevant how many people like/don't like it.
Bananas can never get too popular.
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JohnT is offline JohnT

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Things you hated after they got too popular. Remove this text

You know how it is: you like this band that appears regularly on your local alternative/college station. All of a sudden they hit it big! Now you can't escape them: All those vapid girls who like Bon Jovi and Backstreet Boys now like your band, those dumbass frat boys are blasting their new album at 1:00am, and only ONE of their damned songs is playing on the radio - but it plays for 14 times a day, per station. So you put away their CD's with regret, knowing that you now have to find a new act and not one that all the kiddies like.

Or your a Titanic buff: you've read both of Lord's books, you have copies of the transcripts of the various inquiry boards, you even bought every Titanic CD-ROM you could find at your local Best Buy. Then the movie comes out and now, dream of dreams!, EVERYBODY is talking about Titanic - except they're not talking about your Titanic, they're talking about the one that exists in the movie. So you think, "ah, f*** it. I'll study the Morro Castle or the Indianapolis or something."

Face it - we're all elitists here and stuff like this happens to us all the damned time. What things have gotten so popular that you now hold them with disdain or boredom, whereas before you enjoyed them?

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It's never happened to me.

Either my interests never become popular, or they're already popular by the time I find them.

To get in on the ground floor of something would be a refreshing change.

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Lord of the Rings. Altough it had huge hordes of fans already before the movie,
it pisses me off sometimes, knowing that after 10 years, when I'll still love the storyline,
the ones who don't know jack about it are comparing me then to themselves now,
of course they were hating themselves, considering that most of the new fans are making
fool of themselves, so... (Yes, I would consider it as elitism, but... O'well)

Buck Birdseed is offline Buck Birdseed
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You're missing two clear options.

(a) I'm a dumb frat boy/vapid Bon Jovi-loving girl and I think musical quality and popularity are statistically correlated, aka. the "Asher" option.

(b) My actual choice, which is: If I find something I think is excellent, I want nothing more than for everyone else to like it as well. I am a missionary and my gospel is Rock.

General Ludd is offline General Ludd
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Lords of the Rings.


Not that I really dedicated much to it before, I'd just read the books once... But it was one of the first books I read on my own, and my father also read them to me when I was a kid. I just hate going to the book store and all of a sudden seeing an entire wall dedicated to 50 different versions of it (ie. 50 different book covers) and all sorts of stupid merchandise and crap, it sort of ruins the sentimental value it had for me.

Kropotkin is offline Kropotkin
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The most annoying thing isn't really when it's popular but afterwards. You find something you like (whatever that is) and later it becomes popular and after that when it all fades away due to overcommercialisation (think about it; Shane MacGowan- the action figure!!!) people think of you not as a individual with a individual taste but as a nerd.

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The most annoying thing isn't really when it's popular but afterwards. You find something you like (whatever that is) and later it becomes popular and after that when it all fades away due to overcommercialisation (think about it; Shane MacGowan- the action figure!!!) people think of you not as a individual with a individual taste but as a nerd.


Agree completely. This is exactly what I was trying to tell... O'well - back to Engrish studies...

Kropotkin is offline Kropotkin
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No, I got it. I just agreed with you and elaborated a bit.

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The most annoying thing isn't really when it's popular but afterwards. You find something you like (whatever that is) and later it becomes popular and after that when it all fades away due to overcommercialisation (think about it; Shane MacGowan- the action figure!!!) people think of you not as a individual with a individual taste but as a nerd.


I don´t care about such things. If a book, a movie or whatever, is great, it is still great when more people like. Merchandizing stuff can be annoying, but it doesn´t change much for me, I try to ignore it...

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It happened to me a lot when I was in college in the 70s. Bands that I had "discovered" paled dramatically if they got too popular. Bruce Springsteen and Boston leap to mind. In my more punkish 80s period, it was true of Talking Heads, Patti Smith, The Clash.

Similarly, when something is hyped as "msut see" or "must hear" I tend to run in the opposite direction. There are a lot of movies I've still never seen (eg, "The Exorcist") for this reason.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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I would say Star Trek.

I liked it when it was a fun adventure series in the 60s (which I saw on reruns for the first time in 1970).

Now, it has all kinds of things attached to to it, to the point where every little detail is argued back and forth (and I'm guilty of this also! )

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This thread was really good until all you shallow plebs came along.

Kropotkin is offline Kropotkin
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quote:
Originally posted by BeBro
I don´t care about such things. If a book, a movie or whatever, is great, it is still great when more people like. Merchandizing stuff can be annoying, but it doesn´t change much for me, I try to ignore it...

I didn't say i stopped liking it, I said i found it annoying that others think I like what's popular or used to be popular. I doesn't mean that much anymore since I've more and more started to ignore other people but still...

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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Its as pathetic to stop liking something just because it becomes popular as it is to like it just because it is popular.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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I used to like Star wars before there were 5 sequals.

Alex is offline Alex
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If I like it, then I like it. If it gets popular, so what?

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I guess it depends really. I loved Jurassic Park, and I loved the movie too. However, the movie became ultra popular, so to make more money, Michael Crichton wrote a second book for a second movie. If someone sells out just to make more money, then it can be a downer...

...not that I didn't buy Lost World and read it 5 times...

DinoDoc is offline DinoDoc
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However, the movie became ultra popular, so to make more money, Michael Crichton wrote a second book for a second movie.
In his defense, the book was a hell of a lot better than the movie which butchered it beyond recognition.

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Or your a Titanic buff: you've read both of Lord's books, you have copies of the transcripts of the various inquiry boards, you even bought every Titanic CD-ROM you could find at your local Best Buy. Then the movie comes out and now, dream of dreams!, EVERYBODY is talking about Titanic - except they're not talking about your Titanic, they're talking about the one that exists in the movie. So you think, "ah, f*** it. I'll study the Morro Castle or the Indianapolis or something."


Have you been reading my mind or something?

Actually, I'm still a Titanic buff, I just make it clear the movie was a crapfest.

I usually keep my interests independent of popular consensus. I don't care one way or the other, I do what I enjoy.

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Pop music...
reality TV shows...
Titanic...

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Isn't disliking something that becomes popular out of antipathy for popular opinion no different in terms of shallowness than liking something just because it is popular?

Either way, it seems to me that the interest/lack thereof was merely for the purporses of defying/accepting conventionality rather than actually enjoying it.

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The stuff I put on my list is stuff that I disliked anyways, but have turned to bitter hatred due to popularity.

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Why would you have a dislike for the Titanic before the movie came out? Not being interested in it I can understand, but actively disliking the subject matter...?

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I was a fan of Dragon Ball Z back in middle school until it became popular and oversaturated in modern times.

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I still have yet to watch any of those so-called "Survivor" reality programs.

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Because the Titanic itself has always been a sort of pop-culture worship topic. Big deal, the ship sank. And a whole bunch of rich people and then-celebrities died. So many people think the Titanic was a very important historical event. Bah... there are so many more important things in history... you almost never hear about how the Japanese massacred the Chinese during the 30's, for instance, or how the Turks massacred the Armenians...

The amount of effort and money put in to this Titanic legend worship sickens me.

And when the movie came out, it only got worse... then having to hear about "oh Titanic is the highest grossing movie ever, it's the greatest movie of all time"... PLEASE... Leonardo DiCrapio is a terrible actor...

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Actually DiCaprio has decent chops. Titanic was disastrous for his rep as an actor tho. The part made him easy to despise. Kind of curious whether his new movie will be any good.
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On topic: Never watching "reality" TV = good example, Sava.

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Tomb Raider!
Titanic!
Modern Art allowing untalented *******s to display shyt and sperm on canvas and getting paid for that!

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Its as pathetic to stop liking something just because it becomes popular as it is to like it just because it is popular.


Well most people don't dislike it because it becomes popular, but because when it does become popular, it gets BUTCHERED. Usually when bands become popular, they sell out, and when books become popular it is because they get turned into movies!

 
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