14-12-2002 05:34									#61
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End is Forever:

My own world? It's called Philadelphia. And you know damn well a ridiculous number of people copy our styles.

	14-12-2002 05:34									#62
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Yes, he really does live in a world of his own.

	14-12-2002 05:36									#63
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You've got a very insular outlook, Albert. You seem to think that if you don't believe it, or you can't see it, then it isn't right and it doesn't happen...

	14-12-2002 05:37									#64
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Garage rock: The Strokes, the Hives, the Vines, etc, etc.

Emo: short for 'emotional'. Weezer. Kids with thick glasses and floppy hair. Depression is cool. They like nerdy **** like 'intelligent dance music'.

Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg: Two writers from the 50's who started the Beat Generation (a bunch of slacker-intellectual-bohemian poets) who have been popular reads amongst the youngin's around here.

There yah go...

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I am told that sometimes but I have never really been out of Philly before so I don't know about other places. I have no idea what all that emo **** Hobbes was talking about is.

	14-12-2002 05:40									#66
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Weezer aren't really emo. Rivers Cuomo might have had the emo look at one point but you could probably have used a better example. Most emo bands don't look emo at all...

	14-12-2002 05:42									#67
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Ah, Dashboard Confessional? In not really too heavy into the emo.

	14-12-2002 05:43									#68
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I heard of Weezer... yeah I hate that kind of suburban **** where they think talking about wanting to commit suicide is somehow deep... thats garbage

I still don't know what garage rock is... and why are those beginnings of the liberal bourgeious slavery class want to be poets Ginsberg and Keroac popular?

	14-12-2002 05:43									#69
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I just realised I'm digging myself into a huge hole trying to describe what an "emo" band is.

	14-12-2002 05:48									#70
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Well, Ginsberg and Kerouac were adventurers, anarchists (well not Kerouac, he was kinda square) and intellectuals. They partied, played music, hitch-hiked across the country, did pretty well with the ladies, and I think kids where I live want that kind of freedom.

	14-12-2002 10:13									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed (a) I'm a dumb frat boy/vapid Bon Jovi-loving girl and I think musical quality and popularity are statistically correlated, aka. the "Asher" option.

If that was true, Britney Spears would be flawless music.

I merely hold the opinion that music does not suck because it is popular, in fact many great songs became incredibly popular and are incredible songs (see "Smooth").

And I have no idea what you think a frat boy is, but obviously you need to reevaluate your definition.

Of course we could add a new option, (c) I like obscure music and talk about it incessantly on Apolyton even though no one knows what the hell I'm talking about because it gives me a sense of superiority in at least one field.

I mean, African drum music, Snapcase?

	14-12-2002 10:53									#72
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	14-12-2002 10:59									#73
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great thread

Great example would be when Lifehouse debuted. I heard their stuff long before it first aired on the radio, and liked it. I told people "hey, Lifehouse is a cool band, check 'em out" and they'd give a listen and toss it or not care at all....so I went on my way...2 months later it's on the radio and everyone is talking about Lifehouse...no biggie...I say "hey, yeah these are the guys I told you about" and they don't remember Then their song plays every hour on the radio and everyone makes it 'their song' and now I hate the ****ing band with a passion

I hate the teenie boppers and potheads that ruined Dave Matthews Band

I hate the teenie boppers who think Our Lady Peace is Life and Somewhere out there

I hate the teenie boppers who will ruin Howie Day.

	14-12-2002 11:02									#74
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I really don't care what kind of fanbase my favorites bands have, I just care if I like the music or not

I also intentionally don't listen to the radio often at all, since I can't stand songs being overplayed.

	14-12-2002 11:09									#75
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Lifehouse? Yuk...

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Lifehouse is absolutely terrible live.

They opened (along with Everclear) for MB20 on the tail end of the Mad Season tour in mid-2001 and it's painfully obvious how much they had to digitize his voice.

	14-12-2002 11:14									#77
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Lifehouse? Yuk...

Exactly

	14-12-2002 13:02									#78
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pretty much everything.

	14-12-2002 13:06									#79
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women. Since when did they become so ****ing popular...i remember when I was the only kid on my block with one, and now they've all got 'em. ****ing turds.

	14-12-2002 20:53									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes My favourite band is Incubus and I don't really mind that they are mainstream and super-popular. However... Suddenly being all artsy and geeky is cool! What's the deal with that! I was artsy and geeky back when you got picked on for that! Also the style (grungy beatnik style: it's also a sex position) in which I dress is become all cool too... bah!

Ah, yes: the "Janeane Garofalo effect". ;0

	14-12-2002 20:57									#81
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Weezer aren't really emo..

I thought they were nerd rock.

	14-12-2002 21:01									#82
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Is anyone going to tell me what "Happy-Handbag" music is?

	14-12-2002 21:06									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer End is Forever: My own world? It's called Philadelphia. And you know damn well a ridiculous number of people copy our styles.

Speer, Philadelphia hasn't inspired anything musically since the O'Jays.

	14-12-2002 22:20									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I thought they were nerd rock.

hey, hey, weezer isnt for nerds... is it? *sniff


As for the ORIGINAL question, it really doesnt matter what people say. If you like the stuff you'll like it. For example, I've never liked LOTR, it simply wont change because theyve made a movie and rest of the world likes it now. My opinions CAN change, but not because of what other people says.

Also, you may not like a certain thing, but you can learn to appreciate it. I hate those boy band music but some of them do have singing talent, while some are just there because of popularity. You try going up there and sing like that. Just simply bashing them mindlessly and calling them names... isnt necessary. You just look like a gay basher. And gay bashers are.. well gay.

PS. Is there one thing I liked but hated after it got popular? How about santa hat themes? j/k

	15-12-2002 01:08									#85
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Asher: Er, hello. "Joke". Sir?

African drum music? What? Bollocks. I've possibly said that modern hip-hop, as indeed all rock, is partially progressed from african drumming traditions, but I don't listen to the stuff.

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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 Quitter.

I really should post a "I recommend" thread just because of that.

Truth is, I've not bought anything new and exciting for ages, my economy has been too tight.

Actually, I have quite a good idea of what kind of thread to post...

	15-12-2002 01:23									#87
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* I'd ignore Speer. He seems to live in a world of his own. He also likes Tupac. 'Nuff said.

You have an "Avril" avatar. Nuff said.

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America was so good until all those crappy Europeans came and colonized it!!!

Now it's just a big nation weilding its power over a bunch of small puny nations!!!

	16-12-2002 09:09									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed Apolyton is a lost cause, full of worshippers of Bad Rock. I have acquired a reputation of having bad tastes in music here, so I pursue my recommendation elsewhere.

I think I'll post this...elsewhere.

	16-12-2002 09:16									#90
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The Prodigy. Well I can't say I hate them, but .. anyway.