15-12-2002 14:31									#1
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I am looking to start a new PBEM.

Settings:
- Large, wet, warm, pangea, 60% water, 5 bill. year world.
- No ruins.
- No AI civs.
- Accelerated production.

I need approx. 4 other players and one administrator/moderator.

	15-12-2002 14:37									#2
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Count me in.

hot_enamel@hotmail.com

Random Civ is fine for me

	15-12-2002 15:13									#3
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Oh yes, I want to play Mao of the Chinese.

And to motivate candidate moderators: I will moderate a game of yours if you moderate mine.

	15-12-2002 23:28									#4
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Flandrien,

I would be interested in moderating your game for the simple reason that I would like to find out how this is/can be done.

Do you have any suggestions and/or requirements for your moderator?

Thanks,

Delmar

	16-12-2002 00:30									#5
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What is this moderating thingie? Is this the guy who just sets up the game? If so, why do you need candidates?

	16-12-2002 01:27									#6
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Tasks of the moderator:

1. Set up the game.
2. Receive a copy of each turn of the game.
When a player does not play his turn in, let's say 2 days, you open the turn, play it yourself (minimal actions), and send it to the next player.


If you want to know more about PBEM and moderating, read the very interesting document about it from Keygen in this thread .

	16-12-2002 03:44									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Flandrien Tasks of the moderator: 1. Set up the game. 2. Receive a copy of each turn of the game. When a player does not play his turn in, let's say 2 days, you open the turn, play it yourself (minimal actions), and send it to the next player.

I can do this if you want me to.

The document you refer to below talks about a whole lot more things though. I have some concerns about the "Permanent Replacements", "Cheating check" and "Fight resolving" parts in particular. I am not sure how I could find a permanent replacement for someone or prevent someone from cheating/flaming others.

quote: If you want to know more about PBEM and moderating, read the very interesting document about it from Keygen in this thread .

Very interesting indeed. I think everyone who joins this game should read this document. And on a general note, maybe we should create a recruitment center for PtW.

	16-12-2002 04:25									#8
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Btw, are you sure you want to play on a Large map with 4 players? Will be a long one, even with accelerated production...

	16-12-2002 13:02									#9
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Including me, that's five players.
And yes, I intend for a long game.

Delmar, you don't need to read everything from the document.
Some things (like the cheating part) are CTP specific.

Well, where are those candidates ?

	16-12-2002 18:23									#10
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If there is still room and you need another player, I'll volunteer.

	16-12-2002 19:09									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Flandrien Including me, that's five players. And yes, I intend for a long game. Delmar, you don't need to read everything from the document.

OK then, as I said I can set up the game for you and "next" people who don't play for 48 hours. I'll PM you with my email address.

	16-12-2002 20:33									#12
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Which civ, jshelr ?

	16-12-2002 20:39									#13
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Egypt if available.

Americans second choice, believe it or not.

Iriquois, if needed.

Thanks

	17-12-2002 02:34									#14
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quote: When a player does not play his turn in, let's say 2 days, you open the turn, play it yourself (minimal actions), and send it to the next player.

If someone has to be away for while, I'm happy to play a few tuns in that persons place

	17-12-2002 12:31									#15
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Just a few turns ?
Why not join the game ?

	17-12-2002 17:42									#16
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1. you allready have enough players, have you not??
2. Really don't like accel.production
3. IMHO it's better to have someone not on the team, filling in for an (temp) absent player, keeps thing more "honest", maybe fair is a better word
In other games I'm involved with, we have done similar things.

	17-12-2002 21:06									#17
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I have 3 players for now:
- hot_enamel
- jshelr
- myself

I really want 2 extra players, 3 if possible.

	17-12-2002 21:08									#18
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Hmmm, maybe Delmar can join the game.
In that case, Alva can become moderator.


Just an idea.

	17-12-2002 21:25									#19
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Make sure, everyone sends me their password for this game

	17-12-2002 23:57									#20
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When you have the admin password, you don't need theirs.

	18-12-2002 03:34									#21
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I would like to join. My email is:
lmtoops@yahoo.com

My preference would be Carthage, but I'll take a random civ. after that.

I'm in it for the long hall...I won't quite even if I'm stuck in last. Which of course will not happen.

	18-12-2002 04:12									#22
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I don't want to play, thanks. If you want me to be the moderator, then send me an email or pm with the info needed to set up the game (there are a lot more options than mentioned in the first post) and the password for the first player (I will need this, I guess, as I can't save between specifying the admin password and the password of the first player).

	18-12-2002 12:31									#23
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Fair enough, Delmar stays moderator.

Alva, maybe some other game.

Welcome, Imtoops.

	18-12-2002 18:52									#24
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no probs

Have Fun

	19-12-2002 04:36									#25
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Great!!

I'll be waiting for more information.
Will this thread be used as our "game tracking thread"?
I hope that wasn't a dumb question.

	19-12-2002 05:48									#26
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Waiting..Waiting..

I have changed my mind on my Civ Choice.
1. Arabia
2. Mongols
3. Iroquoi

None of which I have ever played

	19-12-2002 17:12									#27
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I think it is time to get this game started.
Since we have only four players, I recommend a smaller map : standard in stead of large.

I have sent a PM to our moderator.

	19-12-2002 20:33									#28
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I have almost all the information necessary to start the game.

Here is what I think is missing:

Preferred turn order: Flandrien said he would be playing 19-21 GMT. I need this information from the other players as well to determine a sensible turn order. Please use GMT or Apolyton time when specifying time range. Default: based on time zone.

Password for the first player: See explanation in my previous post. Anyone can be the first, regardless of turn order, so if any one person sends me this info that's good enough. If you want me to, I can come up with a password for you, just let me know (and don't blame me afterwards ). Default: random, defined by me.

Difficulty level: Something tells me you want Regent, so... Default: Regent.

You have 12 hours to clarify the above settings in an email, PM or post here, or let me know that I should wait more than 12 hours. Otherwise I will go with the defaults mentioned above.

And here is what I think I know:

Players:
Hot_Enamel - Arabia
jshelr - Egypt
lmtoops - Carthage
Flandrien - China

All males, all names spelled as shown above (first character in lmtoops' name/email is L not I, right?)

Name of the game: Double or Nothing
Game type: Play by Email
Game mode: Standard
Turn timer: None
World size: Standard
Barbarian activity: No Barbarians
Land Mass: Pangaea
Water Coverage: 60%
Climate: Wet
Temperature: Warm
Age: 5 billion
Game limits: None
Victory conditions: Domination, Space Race, Diplomatic, Conquest, Cultural (in other words, all).
Allow civ specific abilities: Yes
Culturally linked start loc.: Yes
Respawn AI: No
Preserve random seed: Yes
Accelerated production: Yes
Elimination: No
Regicide: No
Mass regicide: No
Victory point locations: No
Capture the princess: No
Allow cultural conversions: Yes

Similarly, you have 12 hours to protest.

Last edited by delmar on 19-12-2002 at 20:43

	19-12-2002 21:56									#29
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I will generally play from 01 - 04 GMT. I hope I did my math right (I'm a statistician, so I better have it right). I'm -6 GMT, so 01 GMT converts to 7 pm my time (CST).

Most weekends, I cannot play due to family issues. But that is my concern and I will need to plan in advance to make sure it does not hold up the game. Basicly, I am away from the game most Fridays, Saturday, and the first half of Sunday. This is just a FYI to all players; again I will have to deal with this.

I have no objections to any of the defaults. If there are no barbarians, are there Goodie Huts? I would prefer to have Goodie Huts.

	19-12-2002 23:25									#30
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If the game is sent to two addresses

jshelr@aol.com and russell.sheldon@bmonb.com I can respond quickly at any time of day other than 2am to 11am GMT.

BTW, very nicely set up Delmar. If others would be as clear it would be very helpful.