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CtP2 out of the box is even more incomplete than Civ3, thats not to say theres alot of bugs in it, most of the bugs in it most people wont see, but if you delve into the files you can see how much they had planned for it, but never had time.
At least they had the foresight to make SLIC language and all the documentation available to everyone and such an open file structure for editing every little detail.
If CtP2 was as inflexible as Civ3 then i might be playing SMAX now. I still have it installed, but mostly for pinching graphics and stuff from.
My votes went to CtP1/2 because of the modding possibilities, and that includes the mods currently available.
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Alex
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time: 02:24
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Originally posted by aahz_capone
So, you're saying that CtP2 is, without modding, a complete game or are some mods totally necessary? And what about the immense amount of crashing I hear happened with the CtP series?
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Well, even without mods CTP2 never crashed on me, but it is not a "complete" game without the mods... the AI is horrible, the diplomacy is totally useless... if you want to play the game as it was meant to be played, you'll need mods. And, of course, if you want to improve it too.
BTW, SMAC never crashed on me either. Maybe once. Or twice. Ok, I'll stop. 
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Lucy In The Sky
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Vote in the mo$t meaningful way po$$ible - buy the game! It'$ $till in the $tore$.
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spartak
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I already did, I doubt anyone here lacks a copy.
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They are both on a single cd, so selling one of them may be a bit problematic. I think I remember seeing another version of the Planetary Pack though, with both full boxes of SMAC and SMAX. My version is most probably a later version (if there were another one at all, but I think so). It's a single disc with SMAC v3.0 and SMAX v2.0 on it. You select which one you want to play from a menu when starting the game (maybe it's like that with SMAX otherwise too, I don't know).
Anyway, the Planetary Pack I got had both full manuals in it, no lousy .pdf:s there , I really hate it when there are no real paper manuals. I don't know about the States, but here in Sweden the vast majority of games nowadays come in DVD keepcases with a thin (if any) manual. Personally, I can't believe companies still charge as much money for them. For me, much of the glory of a computer game is in a real box with a heavy manual and sometimes a poster (as with Alpha Centauri) of a tech-tree or whatever. Besides feeling much more like a real product, it makes for a nice display if I want to have the box visible on a bookshelf or something.
OMG, I'm starting to feel the need for a third copy of SMAC, just for the manual. 
Last edited by sharpshooter on 01-09-2003 at 03:47
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