04-11-2002 19:52									#1
	Top games (not series) Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Post your list of top games (not game-series, like the other thread)

Unlike the other thread, you can vote up to 10 games

The point system, goes like this:

1. = 20 points
2. = 15 points
3. = 12 points
4. = 10 points
5. = 8 points
6. = 6 points
7. = 4 points
8. = 3 points
9. = 2 points
10. = 1 point

Here's the score list:

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	Game title:					Total points:

1.	Civilization 2 (...)					140

2.	SMAC (5, 7, 8, 2, 1, 1)					70

3.	Civilization 1 (4, 3, 9, 7, 4, 2, 2)			68

4.	Call to Power 2 (1, 1, 1)				60

5.	Deus Ex (1, 1, 5)					48

6.	Civilization 3 (6, 6, 2, 4, 4)				47

7.	Championship Manager 97/98 (1, 2)			35

8.	Chrono Trigger (8, 2, 2)				33

9.	TESIII: Morrowind (2, 6, 5)				29

10.	Final Fantasy 6 (1, 5)					28
10.	SimCity 2000 (3, 7, 3)					28

	UFO - Enemy Unknown (3, 2)				27

	Thief (2, 4)						25

	Total Annihilation (3, 3)				24
	The Settlers 2 (1, 8, 10)				24
	Europa Universalis II (6, 8, 2)				24

	Sam 'N Max: Hit the Road (8, 3, 3)			23

	Sensible World of Soccer (7, 5, 4)			22

	M.U.L.E. (1)						20
	Ultima VII (1)						20
	Monkey Island 2: Le Chuck's Revenge (1)			20
	Aliens vs Preditor (1)					20
	Fallout 2 (1)						20
	Quake (1)						20
	U.F.O. (1)						20
	
	Diablo 2 (5, 4)						18

	Grand Theft Auto 3 (9, 4, 8, 9)				17
	Doom (8, 6, 5)						17
	Quake 3 (9, 8, 3)					17

	fallout (6, 4)						16
	Doom 2 (7, 3)						16
	The Settlers 3 (10, 2)					16
	
	RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 (2)				15
	Pro Evolution Soccer (2)				15
	Mario Kart 64 (2)					15
	Goldeneye (2)						15
	Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers (2)			15
	Commandos 2 (2)						15
	SimCity 3000 (2)					15
	American McGee's Alice (2)				15
	
	Final Fantasy 7 (4, 7)					14
	Master of Orion 2 (6, 5)				14
	Master of Orion (9, 3)					14
	
	Lemmings 2 (3)						12
	Shining Force 2 (3)					12
	Escape Velocity (3)					12
	Tecmo Superbowl (3)					12
	System Shock II (3)					12
	Worms 2 (3)						12
	Call to Power (7, 5)					12
	Nethack (3)						12
	MDK (3)							12
	Grand Theft Auto - Vice City (3)			12
	
	Syndicate Wars (4)					10
	SMSX (4)						10
	Theme Park (4)						10
	Archon (4)						10
	Micro Machines 2 (4)					10
	The Dig (4)						10
	Freespace 2 (4)						10
	Master of Magic (4)					10
	Ogre Battle (4)						10
	Combat Mission (4)					10
	Red Alert (4)						10

	Baldur´s Gate 2 (6, 8)					9

	SimCity 3000 (5)					8
	Earthbound (5)						8
	Thief 2 (5)						8
	FIFA98: Road to France (5)				8
	Half-Life (5)						8
	Screamer Rally (5)					8
	Starcraft (5)						8
	Grim Fandango (5)					8
	Freespace (5)						8
	Homeworld (5)						8
	RollerCoaster Tycoon (5)				8

	Transport Tycoon (10, 6)				7
	Quake 2 (6, 10)						7
	Warcraft 2 (10, 9, 7)					7
	
	Mega Man X4 (6)						6
	Sonic 1 (6)						6
	Railroad Tycoon (6)					6
	Perfect Dark (6)					6
	Age of Empires II (6)					6
	SW: TIE FIGHTER (6)					6
	Worms World Party (7, 9)				6
	Pac Man (6)						6
	Heroes of Might and Magic 3 (6)				6
	X - Beyond the frontier (6)				6
	
	Duke Nukem 3D (10, 7)					5
	SimCity Classic (7, 10)					5
	Ceasar III (9, 8)					5
	
	Nights (7)						4
	Deamon Stalkers (7)					4
	Nigel Mansell's Racing (7)				4
	Curse of Monkey Island (7)				4
	SW: Force Commander (7)					4
	Half life (9, 9)					4
	Tetris (7)						4
	Independence War 2 (7)					4
	mario cart (7)						4

	Desperados (8)						3
	SouldBlade (8)						3
	Gountlet: Dark Legacy (8)				3
	Bomb Fusion (8)						3
	Archon 2 (8)						3
	Nobunaga's Ambition 2 (8)				3
	Historyline: 1914 - 1918 (8)				3
	Planescape Torment (8)					3
	Syndicate (9, 10)					3
	Neverwinter Night´s (9, 10)				3
	Riven (8)						3
	
	Star Fox (9)						2
	Dig Dug (9)						2
	Utopia (9)						2
	The secret of Monkey Island (9)				2
	Ceasar II (9)						2
	Maniac Mansion 2: Day of the Tenticle (9)		2
	Command & Conquer (9)					2
	Sacrifice (9)						2
	
	Battle Isle (10)					1
	Super Mario Kart (10)					1
	Pac-Mania (10)						1
	Sega Rally (10)						1
	Panzer General 3 (10)					1
	Final Fantasy 1 (10)					1
	Mario 64 (10)						1
	Indiana Jones: And the Fate of Atlantis (10)		1
	Warcraft 3 (10)						1
	Sould Reacer (10)					1
	FreeCell (10)						1

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Last edited by Adagio on 17-11-2002 at 17:05

	04-11-2002 19:56									#2
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Here's my top #10

1. The Settlers 2
2. RollerCoaster Tycoon 2
3. Lemmings 2
4. Syndicate Wars
5. SimCity 3
6. Civilization 3
7. Worms World Party
8. Desperados
9. Grand Theft Auto 3
10. Battle Isle

EDIT:

Changed vote from Charr to Battle Isle

Last edited by Adagio on 06-11-2002 at 18:11

	04-11-2002 20:21									#3
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quote: Originally posted by ADG 10. Charr

My choices:

1. Championship Manager 97/98 - PC
2. Pro Evolution Soccer - PS2
3. Shining Force 2 - Megadrive/Genesis
4. Final Fantasy 7 - PSX
5. Diablo 2 - PC
6. Civilisation 3 - PC
7. Sensible World of Soccer - PC
8. SoulBlade - PSX
9. Half-Life - PC
10. Super Mario Kart - SNES

This isn't entirely consistent with what I posted in the other thread, but never mind.

Hmmm ... soccer games and RPG's seem to overwhelm my list. The top 5 all fit into those catergories.

These games are over a fair spread of systems, though, and cover many years of gaming.

I thought about putting a few Spectrum or Atari ST games on there, but decided not to. If pushed to expand the list to my top 20 games ( ) then the second set of ten would be dominated by those ancient games.

Note that these are my favourite games, not necessarily the best games I've played.

ChampMan 01/02 is much better than 97/98, but I had much more fun with 97/98, for instance. A similar comparison can be made between Final Fantasy 7 and 10 and Pro Evolution Soccer 1 and 2.

	04-11-2002 20:32									#4
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Charr is someting like Scorced Earth...well...it's 100x better than the PC version of Scorched Earth, and 10x better than the amiga version og Schorced Earth

	04-11-2002 22:52									#5
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1. Final Fantasy 6 -PSX, SNES
2. Mario Kart 64 -N64
3. Escape Velocity -Mac
4. SMAX -PC
5. Earthbound -SNES
6. Mega Man X4 -PSX
7. Call To Power -PC
8. Gauntlet: Dark Legacy -PS2
9. Star Fox 64 -N64
10. Pac-Mania -Arcade, NES, GBA

	04-11-2002 22:53									#6
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quote: Originally posted by ADG 7. Worms World Party

What platform is that on? I'd like to get my hands on that.

	04-11-2002 23:04									#7
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All my games (except Charr) is to the PC...

	04-11-2002 23:45									#8
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ADG: why is Civ3 at the top of the list if it only has 12 points? is it because it has received more than 1 vote?

	04-11-2002 23:53									#9
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Sorry, my mistake...

	04-11-2002 23:58									#10
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1. Call to Power II
2. Champ Manager 97/98
3. Sim City 2000
4. Theme Park
5. Sensible World of Soccer
6. Sonic 1
7. NiGHTS
8. Bomb Fusion
9. Dig Dug
10. Sega Rally

	05-11-2002 06:24									#11
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So much for me opening this thread later on.

My top ten:
1. Deus Ex
2. Thief 1
3. Ufo - Enemy Unknown (XCom 1)
4. Civilization 1
5. Thief 2
6. Quake 2
7. Demon Stalkers
8. Settlers 2
9. Syndicate
10. Settlers 3

	05-11-2002 11:36									#12
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1. M.U.L.E.
2. UFO: Enemy Unknown
3. Civ
4. Archon
5. SMAC
6. Railroad Tycoon
7. SimCity Classic
8. Archon 2
9. Master of Orion
10. Pazer General 3

	05-11-2002 12:52									#13
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quote: "One can be stupid and an evolutionist." -- Lincoln "Oh, certainly. The big difference is that to be creationist, one MUST be stupid." -- CyberGnu

Nice sig btw UR.

	05-11-2002 13:27									#14
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1.Civ2(PC)
2.Goldeneye(N64)
3.Tecmo SuperBowl (NES)
4.GTA3(PC)
5.FIFA98:Road to France(N64)
6.Perfect Dark(N64)
7.Nigel Mansell's Racing(SNES)
8.Nobunaga's Ambition2(NES)
9.Utopia(Intellivision)
10.Final Fantasy1(NES)

	05-11-2002 19:04									#15
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Updated...

	05-11-2002 19:30									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger M.U.L.E. Something like that.

OMG! I'd forgotten about that game! It rocked! Still have a copy of it for the NES... I don't know how long it took me to find it either... I'd had it on my Comadore 64, but wanted it on something that still worked.

	05-11-2002 20:27									#17
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1: AL|ENS v. Predator: GE
2: TESIII: Morrowind
3: Total Annihilation
4: The Dig
5: Grim Fandango
6: SW: TIE FIGHTER: Collector's CD-ROM
7: SW: Force Commander
8: Sam 'N Max: Hit the Road
9: Maniac Mansion 2: Day of the Tenticle
10: Indiana Jones: And the Fate of Atlantis

I wish LucasArts made more games like this.

	05-11-2002 23:11									#18
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1.) Civilization II
2.) Commandos II
3.) Worms II
4.) Sensible World of Soccer
5.) Starcraft (inc Brood Wars)
6.) Europa Universalis II
7.) Curse of Monkey Island
8.) Historyline
9.) Caesar II
10.) Transport Tycoon

	06-11-2002 02:03									#19
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1) Monkey Island 2: Le Chuck's Revenge
2) Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers
3) Sam and Max Hit The Road
4) Micro Machines 2
5) Screamer Rally
6) Civilization 2
7) Duke Nukem 3D
8) Chrono Trigger
9) The Secret of Monkey Island
10) Mario 64

	06-11-2002 07:19									#20
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1. Ultima VII (both parts)
2. Civilization III
3. System Shock II
4. Diablo II
5. Half-Life
6. Age of Empires II (inc. The Conquerors)
7. SMAC
8. DOOM
9. Caesar III
10. Duke Nukem 3D

	06-11-2002 15:08									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns quote: "One can be stupid and an evolutionist." -- Lincoln "Oh, certainly. The big difference is that to be creationist, one MUST be stupid." -- CyberGnu Nice sig btw UR.

This shows creationism debate threads are not always a total waste of time.

	06-11-2002 15:12									#22
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash OMG! I'd forgotten about that game! It rocked! Still have a copy of it for the NES... I don't know how long it took me to find it either... I'd had it on my Comadore 64, but wanted it on something that still worked.

Take a look at Space HoRSE, it is supposedly a M.U.L.E. lookalike.

Originally I had the game for the Atari 800, which was more fun than on the C-64, because you could have all four human players using joysticks.

	06-11-2002 18:13									#23
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Updated...

	06-11-2002 19:22									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Take a look at Space HoRSE, it is supposedly a M.U.L.E. lookalike. Originally I had the game for the Atari 800, which was more fun than on the C-64, because you could have all four human players using joysticks.

Thanks! Yeah, that's the reason I got it on the NES when I could since they have that four-player adapter thing...

	07-11-2002 06:45									#25
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ADG: there is 2 "civilization 2's" in your list.
one has 40 points and other 6.

I'll post my list later.

	07-11-2002 07:27									#26
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1) Deus Ex
2) Chrono Trigger
3) Sam & Max Hit the Road
4) Civilization 3
5) Final Fantasy 6
6) Transport Tycoon
7) Civilization 2
8) Grand Theft Auto 3
9) Half-Life
10)Syndicate

	07-11-2002 13:04									#27
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Even a top 10 won't cut it! It's difficult to choose a tope ten especially after 20 years of gaming. Where do you start? Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Invaderswere great games and deserve to be on top but a lot of you are way too young to remember how it was to sneak in arcades and be fascinated by the coin maschines. I remember myself playing by the hours at some point in the mid 80's.

Here is my list:

1. Civ 1
2. Civ 2
3. Civ3
4. Railroad Tyconn 2
5. Baldur's Gate
6. Baldur's Gate 2
7. Donkey Kong (original arcade game)
8. Doom
9. Comman & Conquer
10. Goldeneye (N64)

and here some more favorites

11. Colonization
12. Age of Empires
13. Gabriel Knight
14. Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis
15. Duke Nuke 'em
16. King's Quest
17. Defender of the Crown (Amiga)
18. Populus
19. Lemmings 2
20. Arkanoid

and the list goes on and on... ... we should have done a top 100 of all times if somebody is really willing to do the stats on that and a series should count as one game.

You can count the first ten of the list of course!

So long...

Last edited by The Pioneer on 08-11-2002 at 12:42

	07-11-2002 14:57									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Andemagne ADG: there is 2 "civilization 2's" in your list. one has 40 points and other 6. I'll post my list later.

Sorry, I'm not good to keep an eye on which games I already hace included, but if you wants to do the list, you're welcome

	07-11-2002 20:40									#29
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1. Civilization II
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Total Annihilation
4. Freespace II
5. Freespace I
6. Baldur´s Gate II
7. Final Fantasy VII
8. Planescape Torment
9. Neverwinter Night´s
10. Warcraft III

	07-11-2002 21:32									#30
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quote: Originally posted by The Pioneer 8. Doom 10. Doom

Hmmm...how many times do you want Doom?

I updated the list, but didn't include your vote...