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Saint Marcus
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Scio Me Nihil Scire
Jan 1970
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It's good that your mom knows what you're going through, since she's been through it herself. Talk to her, get close to her. Counseling and meds can work wonders, but it is ten times easier if you have someone who'll walk with you through a difficult proces of recovery. It will be hard, but not any harder than things are already...plus, it can only get better. Slowly you'll be making progress. Impossible to tell how long it will take, but it will happen. And then you'll see other things going better as well. If you feel better, that has it's effect on other aspects of your life, which in turn make you feel even better, etc. It's a spiral, the complete oposite of what is happening now. You already took the first step by addressing your condition. That's the most important part. If you recognise the problem, you can work on it, and with help from your mom, counselor and meds, you'll slowly get over it. I wish you all the best with that.
And Stew, alcohol (or drugs) are never a solution in matters like this. They'll only make it worse in the long term.
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Andrew1999
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If you're seriously depressed, you should definitely seek help. Don't be afraid to see a doctor and take the medication he or she prescribes. I lost a couple of years and very nearly my life because I thought my problems were all in my head and they would go away "real soon now."
If you had a broken arm you wouldn't just walk around with it and believe that was how your arm was supposed to work and feel, would you? Of course not.
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loinburger
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Sweet Sauce Jones
Jul 1999
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PH: First thing is to get a major change of scenery, but don't just go out and spend money will-nilly (touring the world is certainly a change of scenery, but few can afford it) -- that's a fine short-term solution, but if you put yourself into debt then it's a terrible long-term solution (since the debt will simply rekindle your depression). You mentioned that you have a dead-end job -- one of the first changes of scenery I applied when I went through my most recent depression was to quit my temp job (data entry -- sedentary, mind-numbing, and didn't pay too well either) and become a manual laborer (landscaping -- exhilerating, freed up my mind to introspect or daydream or whatever, and actually paid better than the "skilled" temp job). You might want to seriously consider doing something similar -- it doesn't have to be manual labor, it just has to be something new -- it also doesn't have to be something enjoyable (since few, if any, things are enjoyable when you're in a depressed state), it just has to be something that you could conceivably find to be enjoyable (the enjoyment will come in time as you break free from your depression). Use your imagination, or employ somebody who knows you fairly well to brainstorm a new (temporary) career for you (the latter is probably the better solution, since you're probably not in much of a state to pick a new temporary career at the moment).
Exercise is also a great help, though non-competitive exercise may or may not work as well as competitive exercise depending on your particular mindset -- non-competitive exercise tends to bore me (which doesn't help my depression), while competitive exercise (racquetball, soccer, etc.) helps me take my mind off of things (since I'm consumed by a bloodlust when faced by any competition -- "Yarr, that racquetball's life is forfeit!" or "Trump that ace, beeyotch!"). Other people prefer non-competitive exercise, since competitive exercise causes them focus on their failures even more (when they eventually and inevitably lose a game). Do whichever is right for you, but do something -- the endorphins released during prolonged exercise can be nearly as helpful as prescribed meds. Just be aware that the withdrawal from said endorphins can be just as (if not more) severe, so don't stop exercising cold turkey when you're through your depression.
Speaking of which, don't be afraid of using prescribed anti-depressants on a short-term basis. I'd have never broken out of my original depression (which occurred about nine or ten years ago) had it not been for anti-depressants -- I was just so deep into a depressive state that I needed a chemical shock to my brain in order to break out of it. Be wary about using them on a long-term basis, but be aware that some people do have permanent neural deficiencies that require them to continue taking meds in order to avoid sinking back into a depression. If you're one of those unlucky few then it sucks to be you, but just remember that this wouldn't be a problem with your personality, it's solely a problem with your brain chemistry (over which you really don't have much control). If you're not one of those unlucky few, though, then don't take the meds on a long-term basis -- you'll grow unnecessarily dependant on them.
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Provost Harrison
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The farce is strong with this one.
Feb 2000
time: 05:24
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Plan, a PhD is a higher research degree (doctor of philosophy), and a lapdance, well  paying a lady to 'dance' on your knee
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Originally posted by loinburger
PH: First thing is to get a major change of scenery, but don't just go out and spend money will-nilly (touring the world is certainly a change of scenery, but few can afford it) -- that's a fine short-term solution, but if you put yourself into debt then it's a terrible long-term solution (since the debt will simply rekindle your depression). You mentioned that you have a dead-end job -- one of the first changes of scenery I applied when I went through my most recent depression was to quit my temp job (data entry -- sedentary, mind-numbing, and didn't pay too well either) and become a manual laborer (landscaping -- exhilerating, freed up my mind to introspect or daydream or whatever, and actually paid better than the "skilled" temp job). You might want to seriously consider doing something similar -- it doesn't have to be manual labor, it just has to be something new -- it also doesn't have to be something enjoyable (since few, if any, things are enjoyable when you're in a depressed state), it just has to be something that you could conceivably find to be enjoyable (the enjoyment will come in time as you break free from your depression). Use your imagination, or employ somebody who knows you fairly well to brainstorm a new (temporary) career for you (the latter is probably the better solution, since you're probably not in much of a state to pick a new temporary career at the moment). |
Well the effort is getting another job sorted out. Jobs haven't been exactly throwing themselves at me. But the change of scenery is good, it is why I am looking for a move, and if I get enough money saved up I would bugger off somewhere else for a while, although I wouldn't be able to afford too long...you are right, the long term debt would bugger me up.
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Exercise is also a great help, though non-competitive exercise may or may not work as well as competitive exercise depending on your particular mindset -- non-competitive exercise tends to bore me (which doesn't help my depression), while competitive exercise (racquetball, soccer, etc.) helps me take my mind off of things (since I'm consumed by a bloodlust when faced by any competition -- "Yarr, that racquetball's life is forfeit!" or "Trump that ace, beeyotch!"). Other people prefer non-competitive exercise, since competitive exercise causes them focus on their failures even more (when they eventually and inevitably lose a game). Do whichever is right for you, but do something -- the endorphins released during prolonged exercise can be nearly as helpful as prescribed meds. Just be aware that the withdrawal from said endorphins can be just as (if not more) severe, so don't stop exercising cold turkey when you're through your depression. |
Believe me, competitive sport brings out the worst in me, it makes me dwell on my failures in a big way and makes me extremely angry. I would just try swimming or walking, which are the two forms of exercise I have always engaged in anyway.
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Speaking of which, don't be afraid of using prescribed anti-depressants on a short-term basis. I'd have never broken out of my original depression (which occurred about nine or ten years ago) had it not been for anti-depressants -- I was just so deep into a depressive state that I needed a chemical shock to my brain in order to break out of it. Be wary about using them on a long-term basis, but be aware that some people do have permanent neural deficiencies that require them to continue taking meds in order to avoid sinking back into a depression. If you're one of those unlucky few then it sucks to be you, but just remember that this wouldn't be a problem with your personality, it's solely a problem with your brain chemistry (over which you really don't have much control). If you're not one of those unlucky few, though, then don't take the meds on a long-term basis -- you'll grow unnecessarily dependant on them. |
I agree, I need to break the cycle, and nothing before has succeeded. Without something to break this cycle, I will never get laid and I will never get a decent job. Without either of those, my depression will persist and life will seem permanently pointless. I need to try this, determination alone just isn't enough.
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