19-12-2002 07:02									#1
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I got PTW yesterday and I'm eager to start an e-mail game. The problem is I will be away from January 15th to the 25th. Ten days seems like a long time but perhaps it's not such a big gap in 'PBEM time'.

If no one has an objection to the break, I'd like to start a game. Here's what I'd like to do: (Updated)

4 human players
Small map, medium to large land mass, random temperature and so on.
Regent level (I'm not an especially good player)

Players:
Anatolia - Koreans
Alva - Persians
CerberusIV - Ottomans
GhengisFarb - Chinese

Ta-da! We got all our players!

Last edited by Masuro on 23-01-2003 at 19:16

	19-12-2002 18:24									#2
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Still no one signing up???

Well, then I will
If you are willing to drop the AI.

Are you sugesting archipellago btw?
If so, it can take quite awhile before players find each other.... (I'm ok with, just worth mentioning i feel )

	20-12-2002 05:56									#3
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Alva,

I think you're right about a map of small islands delaying contact among the players. I didn't think of that when I suggested it. Also, I don't mind dropping the AI.
Okay, new description of the game:
Four human players, small map ('contact friendly'), random temperature and so on (do you think the arid and cool suggestion was turning people off? I like nasty starting positions).
A few questions:
1) Do we all need the same version to play PBEM?
2) If it is all human players does the difficulty level mean anthing?
3) Ah, no, sorry, just two questions.

Thanks, Alva, for signing up.

	20-12-2002 15:11									#4
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I would like to play a PBEM game so please count me in.

AFAIK it is advisable to all be on the same version. I have 1.14.

	20-12-2002 15:31									#5
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1. as Cerberus said, advisable
2.It does have an effect on happiness, but there seems to be a bug in PBEM games that sets difficulty level to regent, no what what

I'm happy with the other suggestions, it will make it a different game
(if you want to go with a standard-sized map, that's fine by me too)

Question from me
Are 'outside game' deals allowed? (IE: swapping minimaps...etc)


other: cultural starting pos = off (important)

	20-12-2002 18:58									#6
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I will upgrade to 1.14 so we won't have any problems with the game.
CerberusIV thanks for signing up.
When we get one more player I'll start the game and start sending it around. Perhaps we should think about time zones to determine turn order? Or does it not really matter? This is my first PBEM game so I'm not sure how it will affect things. I check my e-mail several times a day so I can take my turn any time.
I don't see why we shouldn't have outside game deals. From what I've read it speeds things up a lot whereas making deals through the game can take several turns for the simplest of transactions. How would I send you my minimap, by the way?
I will turn off culturally linked starting positions. Why is that important?
A couple of questions. Do you have any preference as to what civilisation you want to play as? Also, any preference for barbarian activitity?

	20-12-2002 20:40									#7
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Starting line-ups, are best done backwards.
So you first, then europe, then the US.
(the difference between cerberus and me is insignificant)

I'm ok with making everything random
(if someelse wants to choose his civ, I would like to do so to. )

btw, a good thing to do is to put all the info into your first post(edit), for future reference and possible new players

	20-12-2002 21:15									#8
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I will go with random everything. If there is a choice of civs I would like to play Ottomans.

	21-12-2002 12:51									#9
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C'mon guys, one more to start this one...
Sign up

	22-12-2002 06:09									#10
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Hmmm, other PBEM games seem to fill up rather quickly. Is the short break in January that's keeping people away?

	22-12-2002 09:18									#11
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I would be willing to play the Chinese.

	22-12-2002 09:26									#12
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All hail GhengisFarb!

Great, now we can get the game moving. What should be the turn order? I'm in Asia, I think Alva and CerberusIV are in England or Europe but I don't know where GhengisFarb is.
Please send me your e-mail addresses and I'll start the game.
Alva, did you decide which civilisation you'd like to be?

	22-12-2002 09:27									#13
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Never mind about where GhengisFarb is. I just saw the flag next to his rank.

	22-12-2002 09:34									#14
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Sent my email via PM. Why does Hanam Village sound familiar? Where is it in the ROK?

	22-12-2002 09:45									#15
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Isn't there somewhere in Vietnam that sounds similar to Hanam? Anyway, Hanam is a village in Inje County, Gangwon Province. The only reason people might know it is because it is next to the Naerincheon river which is famous for rafting.
Are you familiar with Korea? Ever been here?

	22-12-2002 09:46									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Anatolia Isn't there somewhere in Vietnam that sounds similar to Hanam? Anyway, Hanam is a village in Inje County, Gangwon Province. The only reason people might know it is because it is next to the Naerincheon river which is famous for rafting. Are you familiar with Korea? Ever been here?

I lived in Tongduchon for over a year.

	22-12-2002 09:52									#17
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Now I have to ask where Tongduchon is.
Oh, it just occurred to me that there is a place called Hanam Village in Seoul for foriegners. I think that's the name. It's a housing complex for diplomats and American officers (?).
What were you doing in Korea?

	22-12-2002 09:54									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Anatolia Now I have to ask where Tongduchon is. Oh, it just occurred to me that there is a place called Hanam Village in Seoul for foriegners. I think that's the name. It's a housing complex for diplomats and American officers (?). What were you doing in Korea?

That's where I heard it before. Tonduchon is up north. I was in the US Army and stationed in Camp Casey in Tongduchon.

	22-12-2002 12:51									#19
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Hey, good of you to join us Ghengis
(the Chinese again éh )

I'll post my civ later today...

	22-12-2002 15:42									#20
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Gonna try one I've never used before
Put me down for;
Persia
(let's just see, how good those immortals are )

e-mail=
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(drop all underscores,at=@,dot=. )

	22-12-2002 16:29									#21
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Game on! Excellent.

My email is CerberusIVciv3 at aol.com


(take out the spaces and at stands for @)

	22-12-2002 16:58									#22
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Whoever sends the save to me, please, do the following;
1. header= pbem break (something like that)
2. saves= player? to alva,2950bc.sav

(When playing several PBEMs at once, things start to get complicated, so to avoid (alot of ) mistakes....thanks)

	22-12-2002 18:37									#23
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I sent my first turn to Alva. I hope it works . . . .

	22-12-2002 19:12									#24
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btw:
(make sure you load it from the MP screen, this is very important to prevent a known bug!!!!
so:
multiplayer--->
local game--->
host---->
game type(pbem)--->
game mode---->load game

*do not load a game any other way!!!

	22-12-2002 19:13									#25
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turn sent to Cerberus

	22-12-2002 22:08									#26
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Turn received and played but I don't have GhengisFarb's e-mail address.

	23-12-2002 03:21									#27
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Turn received and played but I don't have GhengisFarb's e-mail address.

Sent email address via PM. You can also click the "email GhengisFarb" link at the bottom of the main page of my website which is linked in my sig.

	23-12-2002 07:57									#28
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By the way, my e-mail address is gangwonsuro@hotmail.com.

	24-12-2002 01:00									#29
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Turn sent to GhengisFarb

	24-12-2002 18:16									#30
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Turn sent to Anatolia