11-12-2003 23:14									#1171
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wow, really detailed stuff. Those units are awesome Fairline!

	12-12-2003 00:59									#1172
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MY GOD!!

You really my left my mouth open!

GREAT WORK!!!

	12-12-2003 10:08									#1173
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This is the German SdKfz 250-9 turreted Reconnaissance Halftrack with a 20mm Gun:

	12-12-2003 15:59									#1174
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I made this building, and I am wondering how to fix it so it looks decent (this is my first from scratch unit)

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	12-12-2003 17:31									#1175
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GoPostal: Why don't you try these bunkers made by jim panse instead?

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	12-12-2003 18:08									#1176
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Yes, I have got that scenario, but I will already be using bunkers like that, and I am looking at house-to houst fighting, so I need a wide variety, but don't worry, I have found a way around that crap building.

	12-12-2003 18:46									#1177
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling Sublime! Can we expect a JS2 or JS3?

Here you go Curt. I had the same problem Nemo did with his JS-2 - you either lose 1/3 of that enormous gun or keep the gun and tank in proportion and have a tiny civ graphic. I went for the former.

	12-12-2003 19:19									#1178
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1st: @ Gareth: I am stunned once again by your so fantastic artwork!

@ all: I tried to improve Nemo´s US Halftrack. What do you guys think?

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	12-12-2003 19:21									#1179
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Gareth, YOUR THE BEST TANK UNIT CREATOR!! AND ONE OF THE BEST INFANTRY CREATORS!!

	12-12-2003 22:05									#1180
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Nice units both of u

	12-12-2003 23:22									#1181
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Thanks very much gents

Curt, here's the JS-3:

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	13-12-2003 03:16									#1182
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Nice stuff guys

Another haftrack variant.

This is the German SdKfz 250-3 Command and Communications Halftrack:




Cheers!

	13-12-2003 04:20									#1183
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When are you finally going to get up to the SdKfz 250-3 Ice-Cream halftrack?

Fairline, have you ever considered having a go at Japanese tanks? IMO there's never been a truely satisfactory Japanese tank...

	13-12-2003 05:23									#1184
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quote: Originally posted by Case When are you finally going to get up to the SdKfz 250-3 Ice-Cream halftrack?

I didn't know they made an ice-cream variant. I'd double-check my sources if I was you

	13-12-2003 05:25									#1185
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@ Case

Did you have a particular Japanese tank in mind Case? Just so you know, my tank geekiness doesn't extend to the Pacific and I wouldn't know a Japanese tank from my arse so, if you can, I'd appreciate some reference pics or site addresses.

	13-12-2003 05:50									#1186
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Soviet steamrollers!

Bladdy nice work, fairline!!!

That's one I owe you!

	13-12-2003 05:53									#1187
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@jim panse!

That is a wonderful half-track! Top class!!!

I would be floored if I could use it;
Only if you have not got it planned for a scenario?

@Leonidas:

I have a reports that men in the Hannemog factory are dying of exhaustion!

Keep them coming, I forsee a legendary compilation of these HTs!

	13-12-2003 06:59									#1188
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I've been a long-time lurker, but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth, for what it's worth.

The Soviet tanks look nice, but personally, I prefer Nemo's T-34 - it has smoother lines.

I like Leonidas' half-tracks. Superb work. It looks like he's doing a complete compilation.

If I'm not mistaken I think the Germans built 22 varieties of the half-track.

Anyway, great work from all of you.

	13-12-2003 08:42									#1189
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling @Leonidas: I have a reports that men in the Hannemog factory are dying of exhaustion! Keep them coming, I forsee a legendary compilation of these HTs!

Yup, I plan to do a whole series of halftracks.

But I don't think the workers in the halftrack factory are any more tired than those workers labouring away in the German and Soviet tank factories.

	13-12-2003 08:44									#1190
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quote: Originally posted by High_Flyer The Soviet tanks look nice, but personally, I prefer Nemo's T-34 - it has smoother lines. I like Leonidas' half-tracks. Superb work. It looks like he's doing a complete compilation. If I'm not mistaken I think the Germans built 22 varieties of the half-track. Anyway, great work from all of you.

Thanks for the kind words.

22 varieties of halftracks? Well, I won't be doing that many - hehe

Cheers!

	13-12-2003 09:51									#1191
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quote: Originally posted by fairline Did you have a particular Japanese tank in mind Case?

A Type 95 tankette and a Type 97 medium tank would be rather nice - they were Japans main tanks throughout the war. They were similar to Italian tanks in both appearance and performance.

www.wwiivehicles.com/html/japan/index.htm has some nice clear photos of both types.

If you enter the tanks names into the Australian War Memorial's collection database search at: www.awm.gov.au/database/collection.asp it also has some nice pictures (I'd post specific links, but the results of searches expire after a few hours).

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/...japan-tank.html has some more pictures and a technical drawing of the Type 97.

	13-12-2003 10:03									#1192
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quote: I wouldn't know a Japanese tank from my arse

The Japanese had a hard time producing a tank better than your arse. Don't post any comparative pics, but those tanks were probably uglier, too.

http://gunpoint-3d.com/list-tanks_other.html is a slick site for two Japanese tanks. 3D rendering that you can rotate, etc. Perhaps you've seen it for other country's tanks.

They appear to be a little sloppy with the names. They call one of the tanks a Chi-Ri, but it looks like a Type 4 Chi-To (a '45 experimental design). The other is referred to as a Kha-Go, but its looks like a Type 95 Ha-Go to me. http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/ has better info but only bw pics.

I remembered this amphib from PacGen.


I'll bet Case has over a dozen links to Japanese tanks.
EDIT: Case beat me to the draw, but take a look at the light tank 3D shot (http://gunpoint-3d.com/model-Kha-go.html).

	13-12-2003 15:00									#1193
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Those amphibious tanks were really freaky. Here's a picture of one on land:

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	13-12-2003 15:04									#1194
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And here's one emergering from the water. Both shots were taken in Rabaul in 1945 where the Australian 11th division captured a heap of them at the end of the war and they were put through their paces in Rabaul harbour by Australian tankers (some more shots of them puttering around available if you enter 'rabaul tanks' or 'Type 2 Ka-Mi Ampbibious tank' into the search function at the AWM's site)

Interestingly enough, the American M-24 DD tanks which were developed for the invasion of Japan worked in pretty much the same way.

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	13-12-2003 15:40									#1195
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http://member.nifty.ne.jp/takixxx/

	13-12-2003 15:47									#1196
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Actually the Japs had developed some excellent late-tank models.

Unfortunately they never produced more than a hundred or so.

	13-12-2003 15:52									#1197
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quote: Originally posted by Case A Type 95 tankette and a Type 97 medium tank would be rather nice - they were Japans main tanks throughout the war.

OK, thanks Case. Those are good sites. Also found this nice one with lots of pics of models:

http://www.clandavidsonusa.com/wac/.../japanmodel.htm

I'll have a go at both the Type 95 light tank and Type 97 Medium, but I'm away from home now so it won't be until next week.

One question: My latest Russian and German tanks are a bit over the top on contrast; I was kind of experimenting and I think they look OK in civ so long as you remember to normalise the view with cntrl-z. Would this style be OK, or would you prefer a nore subtle contrast, as with most other 'Nemo-type' iso graphics?

quote: They were similar to Italian tanks in both appearance and performance.

1 forward gear and 25 reverse then? I know, that joke was never funny when it was new

	13-12-2003 16:00									#1198
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quote: Originally posted by Boco The Japanese had a hard time producing a tank better than your arse. Don't post any comparative pics, but those tanks were probably uglier, too.

ROTFL! Don't tempt me Boco; I don't have a digital camera but the office Christmas party is next week, and there's a photocopier ans scanner

quote: http://gunpoint-3d.com/list-tanks_other.html is a slick site for two Japanese tanks. 3D rendering that you can rotate, etc. Perhaps you've seen it for other country's tanks.

I have used that site for other tanks and it's very cool. Thanks for the reminder though, as I hadn't DL'ed their Japanese tanks

quote: They appear to be a little sloppy with the names. They call one of the tanks a Chi-Ri, but it looks like a Type 4 Chi-To (a '45 experimental design). The other is referred to as a Kha-Go, but its looks like a Type 95 Ha-Go to me. http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/ has better info but only bw pics.

A cursory google image search has thrown up more confusion: both the type 97 and type 94 tankette are referred to as 'Te-Ke' on different sites....

quote: I remembered this amphib from PacGen.... I'll bet Case has over a dozen links to Japanese tanks. EDIT: Case beat me to the draw, but take a look at the light tank 3D shot ....

That's excellent, thanks. Those amphib tanks certainly were odd-looking

	13-12-2003 16:04									#1199
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quote: Originally posted by Palaiologos http://member.nifty.ne.jp/takixxx/

Thanks - good site

	13-12-2003 16:10									#1200
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quote: Originally posted by High_Flyer I've been a long-time lurker, but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth, for what it's worth. The Soviet tanks look nice, but personally, I prefer Nemo's T-34 - it has smoother lines.

Welcome to the Scenario League High-Flyer, and thanks for the feedback. Can you be more specific about the smoother lines of Nemo's T-34, as I'm always keen to improve my graphics. Do you mean Nemo's has lower contrast or do you mean the shape of mine was wrong?

As I said a post or 2 ago, I've started going for a 'high-contrast' look which looks fine when viewed with cntrl-z in civ but can look pretty grainy otherwise. Actually, I'd appreciate general feedback from other people on this as well.