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	09-08-2003 02:32									#212
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Relegated to firing flares in high-tempo modern mechinized warfare, the venerable 82mm Podnos tray mortar was a star performer in the Soveit-Afghan war.

The second one is a BTR-60PB armored personel carrier.

	09-08-2003 08:29									#213
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The F104 Starfighter, also known as the"flying coffin" a numerous,fast and deadly plane (mostly due to its own bad flight characteristic). Built in USA (models A & C) Germany (model G,1266 of them) Italy (model S) Japan (model J) and Canada (model C), it was the mainstay aircaft of most NATO airforces from the early 60's onwards. It was also widely exported around the world.
Think of it as the western equivalent to the Mig 21.

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	09-08-2003 10:43									#214
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quote: Originally posted by tanelorn The F104 Starfighter, also known as the"flying coffin" a numerous,fast and deadly plane (mostly due to its own bad flight characteristic).

...Aparently it's loss rate wasn't too bad for most users. The F-104 got it's bad reputation mainly due to the West German Air Force's insanely high loss rate. (50% of all the aircraft ended up being destroyed in crashes!). The aircraft was hated by groundcrews though on account of the razor sharp leading edges on the aircraft's wings.

quote: Think of it as the western equivalent to the Mig 21.

...but not as good aparently. From what I've read, the Indian Air Force's MiG-21s absolutely thumped the better trained Pakistani pilots flying Starfighters.

BTW, those are very nice units!

	09-08-2003 15:53									#215
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Thanks, Case.
Apparently this insane loss rate followed this "flying missle" everywhere...
Probably that's why the USAF settled with the F105/F106 combo at the same time, before adopting the USN F4. The F104 was doomed by the fact that it was a high performance plane, used as a fighter/bomber (its Nato role included tactical nuclear strike).

Anyawy, here are two Swedish beauties from the 1970s: The SAAB Viggen variants JA 37 (fighter) and AJ 37 (attack plane). A Draken is in the assembly line.
Unlike the Grippen, these were probably the best fighters of their era.

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	09-08-2003 16:09									#216
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse Anyone made a Mil-24 Hin`d?

There's one in the first page of this thread, colour-reduced from ToT. It has to be painted sand/brown/sea blue but the reduction somehow corrupted the image. I'll try and paint it in the ToT palette first. BeBro's Apache and cobra are also breathtaking...

	09-08-2003 17:22									#217
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The Draken, way ahead of its time. For instance, the RAF lightning needed two of the exact same engines to fly the same mission, with shorter range, endurance, useless missles etc. It was Sweden's only comercial success in the field, as it was exported to Denmark, Finland and Austria.

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	09-08-2003 23:13									#218
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The Soviet helicopter gunship Mil Mi 24 "hind" D, ready to fight for the glory of socialism in the mountains of Afganistan!

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	10-08-2003 01:09									#219
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An Austrian Draken J35o

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	10-08-2003 02:43									#220
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Drool.

Civ2 and other games released around its time are the best type for modding- advanced enough to accomodate beautiful graphics, simple enough to not require sophisticated hardware or a staff of 20. Often the mods look better than the original.

	10-08-2003 18:43									#221
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*drowls* damn I wish I could draw as nice graphics as you all can

	12-08-2003 02:40									#222
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Alex Morr had written something about not bothering too much about detail, or something like that (number of buttons was it?).
Don't let little things bug you. If you think its right, its right, right?
Casuist?

	12-08-2003 16:20									#223
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Try to say stridsvagn 103 three times fast! This babe still needs work, but I'm off to lunch.

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	13-08-2003 01:44									#224
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quote: Originally posted by tanelorn Try to say stridsvagn 103 three times fast!

Been there, done that

	13-08-2003 08:54									#225
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S-Tank, S-Tank, Stank.

Actually no, your Stridsvagn 103 is excellent.

	14-08-2003 13:00									#226
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quote: Originally posted by tanelorn Thanks, Case. Apparently this insane loss rate followed this "flying missle" everywhere...

It turns out that a) you're completly correct - the F-104 was a deathtrap in most airforces which used it and b) it was the Canadians who suffered the 50% loss rate. Germany 'only' lost about 30% of its' F-104s. Aparently Spain hardly lost any and Italian loss ratios were considered perfectly normal. Odd.

	15-08-2003 20:28									#227
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As promised, my feeble attempt at a K200 Korean Infantry Fighting Vehicle:

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	15-08-2003 20:32									#228
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Well, the flag on the vehicle could stand to be more squared-off, and you might move the decal on the shield a little upwards and to the right, but otherwise that looks great!

	15-08-2003 20:48									#229
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Thanks for the crit. Making modifications now!

	16-08-2003 02:00									#230
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Anyone up for redesigning this F-22?

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	16-08-2003 13:15									#231
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The Hind and S-tank are excellent Tanelorn

	16-08-2003 14:46									#232
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This thread just gets better every day!

	16-08-2003 15:03									#233
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse Anyone up for redesigning this F-22?

And while we're at it, I would really appreciate a rework of Darth Veda's F-5 and A-4 as well as Panda's Harrier

	16-08-2003 17:16									#234
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I tried to create a CVN-68 Nimitz Class Carrier. I tried. Feel free to improve it!

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	17-08-2003 11:12									#235
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that's a good looking carrier...they seem to be the hardest unit to make, but that's pretty darn good. Curt, you may wanna use that in your scenario...

	17-08-2003 13:07									#236
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I modified a MiG-21 to a Jianji-8B Finback.

@ jimmywax: You could use it for your Raging Dragon scenario ....

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	17-08-2003 15:44									#237
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A unit I thought would never be made.

Good job, Jim!

My next hope is a Dassault Rafale.

	17-08-2003 16:34									#238
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3 things:

(1)

quote: My next hope is a Dassault Rafale.

I wish to put some emphasis on this demand ....

(2) Anyone up for creating a CIA Operative for me???

(3) I updated my HMS Ark Royal Class Carrier a bit .... Hope you like it!

	17-08-2003 17:21									#239
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Thanks!
The Swedish Grippen:
(What a dissapointment, Swedish planes used to outclass the opposition...)
Great units, everyone!

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	17-08-2003 22:48									#240
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Could somebody do a good F-5?