26-12-2002 20:44									#1
	1280 A.D. Orders Thread (Friday or Saturday?) Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Please post orders here for the 1280 A.D. turnchat.

Turn 0 (1280 A.D.) - SMC, DM already complete
Turn 1 (1285 A.D.)
Turn 2 (1290 A.D.)
Turn 3 (1295 A.D.)
Turn 4 (1300 A.D.)
Turn 5 (1305 A.D.)

NOTE: It is almost certain that we will NOT complete a full 5 turns in this chat. War turns take FOREVER to complete. That said, I would still like to get orders from RA's through that full time period so that we could do a follow-up chat the next day or something, if possible.

	26-12-2002 21:52									#2
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General Orders for the Chat:

Unless specified in the Orders, Any Newly built Cavalry on the mainland is to go to the Vet Stack at Seeburg # 12. Unless specified in the Orders, any Newly built Infantry on the mainland is to go Napoleton #6 and fortify.

Roman Front: Each turn, send the Vet Cav at Fort Hole West into Roman Territory and Report. Fire the Artillery at Brundisium and Report on effect, then withdraw the Cav back to the Fort and Fortify.

The DM has agreed to lend the SMC 8 Native Workers for SMC use. Please Fortify them at Seeburg #7, until I have any possible use for them. If I don’t need them during a turn, I will release them for general PW stuff, as long as I get them back for the next turns SMC stuff. Any PW Workers that I have as part of a force that is behind enemy lines will be counted as part of this 8 (i.e. the one worker that will be part of the Berlin Bombers Group).

After any type of attack, either bombardment or other, please report the effects and what is showing.

Turn 0 (1280AB):.
Move the Leader from Howitzerville #2 to where he is needed (Loveshack I think).
Roman Front General Order
Unfortify the Ironclad and move it North (end of movement)
Move 1 Vet Cav to position A (Berlin #15) and Raze, withdraw back to Howitzerville #2.
Move 1 Vet Infantry to Howitzerville #2 and Fortify (covering Cav).
Move 3 Vet Cav (the Backstreet Boys) to Howitzerville #8, move them N 1 tile at a time towards Position #1 (Berlin #18), Reporting on any enemy on the way. Hopefully the Position #1 won’t be occupied, be we shall see.
Draft from Chiquita. Move him to where the Leader went and Fortify.

Turn 1 (1285AB):
Roman Front General Order
Move Galley NE, NE, then East towards Whelsh Coast (upgrade it to Galleon when it gets there)
Move the Ironclad as directed by SMC during chat.
Move 1 Infantry from Boomtown to Solace and Fortify.
Move 1 Native Worker (SMC Reserve) to Howitzerville #7 and Rail
Move all Wounded Vet Cav to Howitzerville and Fortify,
Move all Wounded Elite Cav to Seeburg and Fortify
Move the Army to Gaia and Fortify.
Move all Healthy Vet Cav (both in Howitzerville and outside) back to Stack at Seeburg #12
Move all Healthy Elite Cav back to Napoleton #17
Move the Art’s from Abandonment #7 to #1
Move the just built Art from Chiquita to Abandonment #1
Fire all Art’s at Stuttgart, unless some other target presents itself and that we’ll decide to fire on during the chat.
If there is no Allied Mil Unit at New York #20, move 1 Native Worker and 1 Vet Infantry North to Hannover #14 (Worker will road next turn, Inf will Fortify}
move the Backstreet Boys to position 2 (Berlin #1)
move the last Explorer to Berlin #1 and Raze
have the weakest of the 3 Backstreet Boys Raze, the others Fortify

Draft from Rheims, Move him to there the worker is, at Hannover #14


Turn 2 (1290AB):

Draft from Oak Ridge, move him to ????



Turn 3 (1295AB):

Draft from Opiadom, move him to ???? Last of the Draft


E_T

Last edited by E_T on 27-12-2002 at 20:46

	27-12-2002 01:20									#3
	FAM Orders for Turn Chat Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Place Holder for FAM Orders.

These orders are final

I will likely show up in the afternoon.


1280 (Turn 0)

FAM Done
Some nations have Refining. Wait several turns before trading for it. The prices have been droping by about 12% per turn.

1285 (Turn 1)
Fight War
We get Scientific Method. DO NOT TRADE IT untill AFTER the other CIVS Waste their sheilds on US. --AND-- We are within 4 turns of completing ToE.

Let Deals Ride but,
Check with Greece to see what they want for Refining the prices have been droping by about 12% per turn. We can cancle the 5LPT deal for 2 luxes and see what Greece will be willing to trade for. Let the president and DM decide if we can afford any LPT deals. I perfer that we do not pay any LPT

1290 (Turn 2)
Fight War
Let Deals Ride but,
Check with Greece to see what they want for Refining the prices have been droping by about 12% per turn? We can cancle the 5LPT deal for 2 luxes and see what Greece will be willing to trade for. Let the president and DM decide if we can afford any LPT deals. I perfer that we do not pay any LPT


1295 (Turn 3)
Fight War
Let Deals Ride but,
Check with Greece to see what they want for Refining the prices have been droping by about 12% per turn? We can cancle the 5LPT deal for 2 luxes and see what Greece will be willing to trade for. Let the president and DM decide if we can afford any LPT deals. I perfer that we do not pay any LPT.

1300 (Turn 4)
Fight War
Let Deals Ride

1305 (Turn 5)
Fight War
Let Deals Ride.


General Situation:
Russia
- Polite but broke for at least 10-15 turns unless another deal with another civ expires.

Persia
- Furious, broke and backwards, can pay WM + 5L for Sanitation, Steam Engine or Communisim.

Japan
- Polite but broke for at least 10-15 turns unless another deal with another civ expires.
- Are trading 28 LPT for coal, let this deal continue to ride
- Trading silks for dyes for at least 9 more turns
-They have refining will trade it for overall our gold + over 100 LPT - Not an option.

Greece
- Polite and is riding on a 5LPT for our Spices, Incense and Dyes. -Renegotoion for Refining gets us the tech for 41 LPT + the 3 lux. - Not yet an option, waiting mor time as this is the most promising.
-Our deal for Ivory expires in 7 turns, maybe we can include it in te refining deal.
-They have refining will trade it for overall our gold + over 100 LPT - Not an option.

Aztecs
-Polite but we have nothing but gold for them.
-They have Refining will trade it for overall our gold + over 100 LPT - Not an option.

India
-Polite but we have nothing but gold for them.
-They have Refining will trade it for overall our gold + over 100 LPT - Not an option.

Iroquois
- Polite but broke for at least 5-9 turns unless another deal with another civ expires. Can only offer WM for Replacable Parts.


Zulu
-Annoyed, have a trade embargo with germany against us and are on par in tech with us.


As we are in pacted wars, DO NOT make peace with ANY nation we have an Alliance with another power against. Do not make peace with any nation we are at war with and that our MPP partners are fighting.

Do not trade Sci Meth earlier than 4 turns prior to finishing the ToE build. Then traded it to our allies for what ec can get.

Let all deals ride. Keep peace with all if possible


Good luck, see you in the afternoon.

Mss

Last edited by ManicStarSeed on 28-12-2002 at 08:27

	27-12-2002 06:01									#4
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The Senate has spoken. Ensure that the actions specified in:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=71737

are executed during the 1280 turn.

	27-12-2002 08:27									#5
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What time tomorrow is the chat.
Aggie

	27-12-2002 08:30									#6
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I leave the build queu of my Region to whatever Spiffor feels is needed.

	27-12-2002 20:08									#7
	Uber Island RA Orders Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I am following E_T's system of numbering city radius tiles.

1280
Neon Uber City
-WF to 2,5,6,8,10,15

Boomtown
-Change current build from infantry to cavalry; rush for 252 lytons (as per E_T's request here)
-WF to 1,2,3,4,6,8,10,18,20

Solace
-Queue to Barracks-Cavalry-Infantry-Market-Harbour (If Romans keep coming)
-Rush Barracks for 64 lytons (also dependant on Romans)

1285
Solace
-Rush Cavalry (Again if Romans are going to invade)
-WF to 1,2,3,10,11,12,14

1290
Boomtown
-Growth - work tile 15

Shiberport
-Growth - Work tile 1

Whelsh Coast
-Aqueduct complete - WF to 3,4,8,9,15,16

1295
Neon Uber City
-Build aqueduct - growth - Work tile 1

Whelsh Coast
-Growth - work tile 19

1300
Solace
-Growth - work tile 13

1305
-Growth - WF to 1-10,18



There... I am gone within 3 hours of this post for a few days, so goodbye for now.

	27-12-2002 20:30									#8
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PW Orders :

The "orders" will actually tell what tiles need what precise improvements. Arnelos will be up with allocating the workforce

to get these improvements done. (there are few direct orders as exceptions)
- High priority improvements are about our war effort, and bringing supplies to the front as quickly as possible
- Medium priority improvements are about immediate concerns of our cities. They should be tended by workers who stand already on the rail network. Not many workers are needed to complete medium priority tasks.
- Low priority orders explain what shall be all tile improvements in the far future. I think I've adressed all tiles in the radius of our cities. Do them only when other requests have been complete. There is no priority between cities, but the first orders for each city should be followed first (except in the few cases workers are already standing on a non roaded tile which will need to be improved anyways).

I use the "worker unit" (WU) : it is the number of slave workers needed to complete a task in one turn. For example, this line :#7 of Howitzerville : need RailRoad (2 WU)" would mean we need 2 slaves or one national to do the job in one turn.

DIRECT ORDERS
5 NATIVES #7 of Oak Ridge : move and fortify at #7 of Seeberg. They are now under direct command of E_T
3 NATIVES #12 of Gaia : move and fortify at #7 of Seeberg. They are now under direct command of E_T
4 NATIVES #20 of Oak Ridge : move to Howitzerville and Join City
1 NATIVES #2 of Timeline : move to Howitzerville and Join City

Last edited by Spiffor on 28-12-2002 at 20:15

	27-12-2002 20:52									#9
	Re: Uber Island RA Orders Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

quote: Originally posted by Panzer32 1280 Solace -Queue to Barracks-Cavalry-Infantry-Market-Harbour (If Romans keep coming) -Rush Barracks for 64 lytons (also dependant on Romans) quote: Should be done 1285 Solace -Rush Cavalry (Again if Romans are going to invade) -WF to 1,2,3,10,11,12,14

THis should be Rushed the next turn, so that it will cost less. I hope we won't need it, but we will know in 1290 if we need to.

E_T

	27-12-2002 22:42									#10
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TENTATIVE CHAT TIME SHOULD BE TOMORROW MORNING (SATURDAY, DECEMBER 28th) AT 1500 GMT (10 a.m. EST)

I have no FAM orders at this time and many RA's have not posted orders for Spiffor to use. Citing this, I simply don't feel comfortable holding a chat on short notice tonight.

E_T will be unable to make the chat tomorrow, but he has been conscientious enough to leave extensive orders for at least the next 2 turns. If he can leave more orders or name a deputy (Meshelic or Aggie, his deputies, or another) to stand in for the SMC tomorrow in the chat, that would be awesome.

	28-12-2002 00:22									#11
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Orders for Central Apolyton. Please read my orders at the end throughly. I might have to make draft requests.

1280 (turn 1)
Nothing.

1285 (turn 2)
Rheims grows.
WF- 1,2,4,6,7,8,9,15,16,20

1290 (turn 3)
Chartres grows.
WF- 1,3,4,6,11,12,13,19,20

1295 (turn 4)
Opiadom grows.
WF- 2,4,6,7,8,11,12,19,20

Gotham grows.
WF- 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,13,15,16,17

Termina grows.
WF- 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,13,19,20

1300 (turn 5)
Century Celibration in Apolyton.

I request no rushes at this time so money can be used to upgrade units. Watch closely the Roman Ironclad and Galley. If it continues to get closer to Central Apolyton's coast, draft an Inf in Port Rouge, Chartres and Termina. Also pay close attention to the "neutral" Zulu. They are nearly in striking distance of Tassagrad and Banana HQ, both of which are undefended. Also watch out for the Zulu to go north for an undefended Ubergrosk. I don't think we want to loose Sun Tsu at this point in the game.

Last edited by Donegeal on 28-12-2002 at 19:40

	28-12-2002 00:30									#12
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E_T, I'd like to draft from Seeberg instead of Chiquita. It won't interfere with the Artillery build, and it'll regain its pop immediately.

Turn 0 - 1280
Seeburg: Draft from city (instead of Chiquita). WF to 1-4-6-8-9-15-16-17-18-19-20
Loveshack: Change queue to Universal Suffrage-Factory-Cavalry-Bank; change WF to 1-2-3-4-5-6-10-11-20 (burst of commerce since shields don't matter)
Geofront: Change queue to Artillery-Factory-Infantry-Bank
New York: Change WF to 1-4-5-6-8-9-15-16-20

Turn 1 - 1285
Loveshack: US completes! Pop growth as well. WF to 1-2-3-7-8-10-11-18-19-20
Seeburg: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-4-6-8-9-15-16-17-18-19-20

Turn 2 - 1290
Gaia: Draft from city (instead of Oak Ridge). WF to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-14-15-16
New York: Marketplace completes. Change queue to Factory-University-Bank-Colosseum

Turn 3 - 1295
Gaia: Grows back to 12. WF back to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-13-14-15-16
Ubergorsk: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-11-13-19-20
Oak Ridge: Pop growth. WF to 2-3-4-5-6-12-14-15-16
New York: Pop growth. Change WF to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-15-16-20

Turn 4 - 1300
Geofront: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-4-5-11-12-13-14-15
Chiquita: Pop growth. WF to 1-3-4-5-6-7-8-10-12-13-14

Turn 5 - 1305
Nothing.

Rushing
If there are funds available for rushing projects, I have the following requests:
Marketplace in Oak Ridge (208 gold in 1280; cheaper by 40 gold each turn)
Artillery in Geofront (don't do this in 1280; rush for 260 in 1285 at earliest, cost reduced by 60 per turn. This rush will allow Geofront to start on a Factory sooner, and adds an Arty to our forces sooner.)

Last edited by Kloreep on 28-12-2002 at 04:02

	28-12-2002 02:57									#13
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If it's pop is currently 10 or less, it's o.k. with me. I'm trying to keep the Drafts to cities that won't feel the effects for a bit.

E_T

	28-12-2002 03:08									#14
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quote: Originally posted by E_T If it's pop is currently 10 or less, it's o.k. with me. I'm trying to keep the Drafts to cities that won't feel the effects for a bit. E_T

Actually, it's 12 (hence being able to grow back immediately). But I'm trying to get all my cities to size 12, and that's why I'd prefer Seeberg.

It does put Seeberg on the edge as far as WLAD goes, but I hope that with US, it won't be much of a problem. And any smaller city will still run into trouble once it reaches 12.

Edit: I also want to switch the Oak Ridge draft to Gaia. Same idea (shift the pop loss from a growing city to a size twelver).

	28-12-2002 03:44									#15
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Edited: I was working with so many windows that I posted something in the wrong thread. Please forgive your humble servant.

	28-12-2002 20:13									#16
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1280

Forbidden City : Change production to palace

Seeburg:
Draft from city (instead of Chiquita). WF to 1-4-6-8-9-15-16-17-18-19-20

Geofront: Change queue to Artillery-Factory-Infantry-Bank

Loveshack: Change queue to Universal Suffrage-Factory-Cavalry-Bank; change WF to 1-2-3-4-5-6-10-11-20 (burst of commerce since shields don't matter)

Solace
-Queue to Barracks-Cavalry-Infantry-Market-Harbour (If Romans keep coming)
-Rush Barracks for 64 lytons (also dependant on Romans)

New York: Change WF to 1-4-5-6-8-9-15-16-20

Boomtown
-Change current build from infantry to cavalry; rush for 252 lytons (as per E_T's request here)
-WF to 1,2,3,4,6,8,10,18,20

Ghengistown : Change production to military Academy

Neon Uber City
-WF to 2,5,6,8,10,15

1285
Rheims grows, Draft from Rheims
WF- 1,2,4,6,8,9,15,16,20

Seeberg: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-4-6-8-9-15-16-17-18-19-20

Loveshack: US completes! Pop growth as well. WF to 1-2-3-7-8-10-11-18-19-20

Solace
-Rush Cavalry (Again if Romans are going to invade)
-WF to 1,2,3,10,11,12,14

Ghengistown : Change production to Theory of Evolution.

1290
Gaia: Draft from city (instead of Oak Ridge).
WF to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-14-15-16

Chartres grows.
WF- 1,3,4,6,11,12,13,19,20

New York: Marketplace completes. Change queue to Factory-University-Bank-Colosseum

Whelsh Coast
-Aqueduct complete - WF to 3,4,8,9,15,16

Boomtown
-Growth - work tile 15

Shiberport
-Growth - Work tile 1


1295
Gaia: Grows back to 12. WF back to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-13-14-15-16

Termina grows.
WF- 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,13,19,20

Ubergorsk: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-11-13-19-20

Opiadom grows, Draft from Opiadom
WF- 2,4,6,7,8,11,12,20

Oak Ridge: Pop growth. WF to 2-3-4-5-6-12-14-15-16
New York: Pop growth. Change WF to 1-4-5-6-7-8-9-15-16-20

Gotham grows.
WF- 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,13,15,16,17

Whelsh Coast
-Growth - work tile 19

Neon Uber City
-Build aqueduct - growth - Work tile 1


1300
Solace -Growth - work tile 13

Chiquita: Pop growth. WF to 1-3-4-5-6-7-8-10-12-13-14

Geofront: Pop growth. WF to 1-2-4-5-11-12-13-14-15

Last edited by Spiffor on 28-12-2002 at 20:30