28-12-2002 12:42									#61
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	28-12-2002 12:54									#62
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PS, Speer, when you want to learn more about great lyrics besides the obvious rhyming, you should check out the lyrics to songs like American Pie:

A decent explanation is here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/music/american-pie/

quote: A long, long time ago... I can still remember how That music used to make me smile. And I knew if I had my chance, That I could make those people dance, And maybe they'd be happy for a while. But February made me shiver, With every paper I'd deliver, Bad news on the doorstep... I couldn't take one more step. I can't remember if I cried When I read about his widowed bride But something touched me deep inside, The day the music died. Soo..Bye, bye miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye? Singing this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die Did you write the book of love And do you have faith in God above If the Bible tells you so Do you believe in rock n roll Can music save your mortal soul Then you can teach me to dance real slow Well I know that you're in love with him 'Cause I saw you dancing in the gym You both kicked off your shoes Then I dig those rhythm and blues I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck With a pink carnation and a pickup truck but I knew that I was out of luck The day the music died I started singin'... Bye, bye miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye? Singing this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die Now for 10 years we've been on our own And moss grows fat on a rolling stone But that's not how it used to be When the jester sang for the king and queen In a coat he borrowed from James Dean In a voice that came from you and me And while the King was looking down The jester stole his thorny crown The courtroom was adjourned No verdict was returned While Lennon read the book of Marx The quartet kept practice in the park And we sang dirges in the dark The day the music died We were singin' Bye, bye miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye? Singing this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die Helter Skelter in a summer swelter The birds flew off with the fallout shelter Eight miles high and falling fast It landed foul on the grass The players tried for a forward pass With the jester on the sidelines in a cast Now the halftime air was sweet perfume While sergeants played a marching tune We all got up to dance Oh, but we never got the chance 'Cause the players tried to take the field, The marching band refused to yield. Do you recall what was revealed, The day the music died? We started singing Bye, bye miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye? Singing this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die There we were all in one place A generation lost in space With no time left to start again So come on Jack be nimble, Jack be quick Jack Flash sat on a candle stick 'Cause fire is the devil's only friend. As I watched him on the stage My hands were clenched in fists of rage No angel born in hell Could break that satan's spell And as flames climbed high into the night To light the sacrificial rite I saw satan laughing with delight the day the music died. I met a girl who sang the blues And I asked her for some happy news But she just smiled and turned away I went down to the sacred store Where I'd heard the music years before But the man there said the music wouldn't play And in the streets the children screamed The lovers cried and the poets dreamed But not a word was spoken The church bells all were broken And the three men I admire most The Father Son and Holy Ghost They caught the last train for the coast The day the music died They were singin' Bye, bye miss American Pie Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry And good ol' boys were drinking whisky and rye? Singing this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die

	28-12-2002 13:25									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer anyway... what about rhymes? Can rockers make 6 syllables rhyme per line? Right here, Changes... I see no changes all I see is racist faces misplaced hate makes disgrace to races We under I wonder what it takes to make this one better place, let's erase the wasted Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right 'cause both black and white is smokin' crack tonight to rhyme like that and still make coherent sense... thanks

Line one- "racist" and "faces" is only a half-rhyme.

Line two- Not one word actually rhymes with any of the others and the sense of the line is questionable.

Line three- Hey! In "under" and "wonder" we actually have a genuine rhyme. Unfortunately the line itself makes no sense at all.

Line four- Again, not one genuine rhyme within the line. "Erase" does not rhyme with "faces". Sense is questionable too.

Line five- Another line with not a single word-rhyme within it. "Evil" is not a rhyme for "people". It's borderline gibberish too.

Line six- Congratulations! Two rhymes.


I give it a "c" for effort.

	28-12-2002 13:39									#64
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Laz:

it's called assonance...

	28-12-2002 13:42									#65
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Assonance or asinine?

Ahh, alliteration!

	28-12-2002 15:47									#66
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Not to comment on anything else said in this thread, even though I've now got a somewhat augmented hit list, but seriously, Asher, American Pie is about as moronic a piece of sub-poetic glurge as they come. Simplistic, one-leveled sentimentality done in the most primitive á clef manner imaginable. No sense of language, no sense of a decent metaphor, just loads and loads of "ooh I'm so clever" wordplay.

	28-12-2002 16:12									#67
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Glen Miller rather than Louis Armstrong...

Hey! While Glen Miller is no Louis Armstrong, neither is he Pat Boone!


I don't know about worst ever, but I strongly detest the sound and existance of modern Japanese pop music. OMG, will somebody stop torturing those poor bats???!!!???

	28-12-2002 16:39									#68
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I don't think even Snapcase himself knows what "á clef manner" means.

	28-12-2002 17:05									#69
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trance...by far. trance is to music what rape is to crime. vile disgusting stuff.

	28-12-2002 17:08									#70
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speer, you forgot about tupacs move to oakland, california

	28-12-2002 17:18									#71
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Actually, I just made it up, a backwards construction from Roman à clef, a novel in which the characters are more-or-less thinly veiled representations of famous people.

	28-12-2002 17:27									#72
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Trance.

	28-12-2002 17:31									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Laz: it's called assonance...

It certainly is. Why do you call it "rhyming"?

	28-12-2002 17:31									#74
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Anyway, Acid Jazz is the worst genre. Made by ****ers for ****ers.

	28-12-2002 22:31									#75
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Whatever genre "Take a message to my love" was in is the worst genre ever. I had to listen to it several times a night when I worked at a fast food place. Fortunately, there were no customers around at 4 AM and I could drown it out with my rendition of the Ode to Joy using only the word "kill".

	29-12-2002 01:01									#76
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Trance is pretty bad, but Advert music is definately the worst.

My Parents listen to that insipid shit all the time, even a radio station for it up here (1548 Forth Am). "Believe" followed by "Search for the meaning" followed by something by the Lighthouse Family.

I've refused to ever travel with them, its that bad. Its... old pop music -not classics, but old tacky, meaningless crap.

Nothing's worse than the lowest common denominator.

	29-12-2002 02:10									#77
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Heavy metal, death metal, all that heavy stuff... yuck!

	29-12-2002 03:36									#78
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I've never heard it called Advert Music before, but I certainly know the kind of stuff you mean. Albums a couple of months old that TV-advertised solely with the market-driven 30-50 year old audience in mind. *shudder*

Although I did see a TV ad today for the Norah Jones album, which I hear is quite decent. A surprise, espeically as it was wedged between an ad for another quality-impaired cheapo classical compilation and one for Gregorian: Masters of Chant (don't ask).

	29-12-2002 04:32									#79
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Trance.

Someone should make a poll.