30-12-2002 23:08									#121
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I can't believe that was fractured . I like rootting for the Bucs. Oh well. That's the end of them this year.

	30-12-2002 23:31									#122
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I have no doubts Football's Human Bump Machine will be out on the field in two weeks. He knows what's at stake.

	30-12-2002 23:33									#123
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One good hit and he might be headed for the sidelines again... broken back REALLY hurts! I've seen my dad with a herniated disk, man. I don't know if Brad will be back, but if he is... man, is it going to KILL him!

	30-12-2002 23:38									#124
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Oh, Imran, I have no doubts about that whatsoever... but I can tell how bad he wants this, and he knows how much the offense needs him - he's the glue. If there's even a minute chance he can play, he will.

	30-12-2002 23:48									#125
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Well let's hope there is a minute chance. Broken backs are bad things... and they have a tendancy not to heal. I'm sure they get some sort of painkilling shots over there, but I'm not sure how strong .

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Btw, anyone else think Dan Reeves is one of the worst coaches out there? 2nd and Goal at the 1. And you run up the middle? How about bootleging Vick out to the left? Jeez!

And now I know why Elway wanted Reeves gone so badly in Denver!

	31-12-2002 00:17									#126
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So, the top 8 in the draft are:

1) Cinncinati
2) Detroit
3) Houston
4) Chicago
5) Dallas
6) Arizona
7) Minnesota
8) Jacksonville

The rest of the 20 depends on whether St. Louis wins or loses (more likely) tonight.

Looking at it right now: Carson Palmer, say hello to your NEW home, the Cincinnati Bengals (poor guy )! And Ming should be happy, because Detroit and Houston have their QB of the future (and will likely draft OL) so the Bears have a crack at (and SHOULD draft) Byron Leftwich.

	31-12-2002 00:28									#127
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I'm not sure the Bears have any interest in taking a QB with their first pick. First, their success with first round QB's hasn't been good Second, they need a lot of players that can play NEXT year. A first round QB would take up money for a guy who probably won't start. I think they will look for a solid QB "prospect" in the middle rounds. A lot of different names have been tossed around by the media here.

	31-12-2002 00:36									#128
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Such as?

And will they all be as good as Jim Miller, who if you will remember, was a QB 'prospect' in the middle rounds .

They should take Leftwich. The main reason the Bears stunk this year was because the entire Defense was killed by injuries. They'll be back.

	31-12-2002 00:53									#129
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After the Cade debacle... and looking at how some other "can't miss" QB's have turned sour... The Bears management doesn't want to get burned again. They would rather showcase that first pick and take somebody that is likely to make a difference next year.
Granted, they can always still make a mistake, but a line man is always a safer pick. While some "experts" think we are set at wide receiver and running back, an upgrade there wouldn't hurt either. A defensive back would also add to, hopefully, a healthy defense next year.

	31-12-2002 00:59									#130
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Yeah, but recently which mid-round draft pick QB has turned out good? I mean, the most recent one was Brian Griese, but it looks like he is on the way out in Denver!

All the good young QBs that have come out lately have been 1st or 2nd round: Chad Pennington (1st), Mike Vick (1st), Drew Brees (early 2nd). Tom Brady is the only one that came out later (and IIRC, he was 3rd round), and it is looking like he might be more of a flash in the pan.

If I was Chicago I'd go Leftwich, or wait until round 2 and go for the Louisville QB.

	31-12-2002 01:03									#131
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But you make it sound like the Bears know what they are doing in the draft...

	31-12-2002 01:03									#132
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They could.... one day .

	31-12-2002 01:06									#133
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Somewhere.... over the rainbow

	31-12-2002 01:07									#134
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Come on! All they need is to hire Bill Walsh .

	31-12-2002 01:14									#135
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Black Monday, three coaches out, and Jones says he will hire Parcells or Denny Green for the Cowboys.

	31-12-2002 01:19									#136
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Chris: I'd bet the house on Denny.

	31-12-2002 01:20									#137
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I thought it was a riot yesterday with Tampa Bay saying they will want compensation if Parcells is hired by another team, and that teams need to ask their permission to talk to them

Let the fun begin

	31-12-2002 01:21									#138
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Tuna is the bigger catch, but Jones can crow about hiring a Black Coach with Denny.

I say 50-50.

	31-12-2002 01:23									#139
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Tuna is also the most disloyal employee ever .

I find it interesting that Marvin Lewis' name hasn't come up yet. He'd be a decent fit for Jacksonville. Maybe the Bears should dump Jauron and pick up Lewis, eh Ming?

	31-12-2002 01:23									#140
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Ming, the Bucs will get ZILCH.

Like Taggy would give them something for a guy they can't prove signed with them.

	31-12-2002 01:26									#141
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Also, just in:

Mike Holmgren will be asked to relinquish his title as GM! Smart move, I think. He's a good coach, but a lousy GM.

	31-12-2002 01:34									#142
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I can't wait until McKay whips out the paperwork that proves that Tuna did sign with us before hanging us out to dry. I'd love to see the Bucs screw the Tuna over like he screwed us over.

And Chris: If the Bucs can't block it, then the Parcells/Dallas wedding won't happen since Bill and Jerry won't be able to co-exist. Plus, Bill's already saying he only wants to do two or three years. Please.

If it's between Bill and Denny, it's Denny, easy.

	31-12-2002 01:35									#143
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Hollmy looks awful average without Farve, but his boys are all doing well.

	31-12-2002 01:37									#144
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quote: I can't wait until McKay whips out the paperwork that proves that Tuna did sign with us before hanging us out to dry.

Doesn't matter. Under NFL rules, if it isn't submited to the league (and it wasn't) the contract isn't valid. That's also the reason the Bucs don't have to pay Parcells anything .

quote: Hollmy looks awful average without Farve, but his boys are all doing well.

Yeah... Hasselback was actually decent and Alexander had his games.

	31-12-2002 01:37									#145
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Tuna is slippery, never count him out.

But the Bucs are nuts if they think they have his rights.

	31-12-2002 03:45									#146
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui All the good young QBs that have come out lately have been 1st or 2nd round: Chad Pennington (1st), Mike Vick (1st), Drew Brees (early 2nd). Tom Brady is the only one that came out later (and IIRC, he was 3rd round), and it is looking like he might be more of a flash in the pan.

Brees is good, but Brady is a flash in the pan?

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	31-12-2002 03:46									#147
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Brady looks like he got lucky last year. He really just looks like an above average QB, and Bledsoe would have probably been better. I think they traded the wrong QB.

	31-12-2002 04:04									#148
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I don't think Brees is better than Brady though.

And yea, Brady was fortunate last year, but the entire NE squad was fortunate last year

After such a great year, expectations and the pressure are high, and that's what broke NE up this year.

But I don't know if it was the wrong decision to trade Goose away; Brady is seven years younger, and when comparing the season stats of both players, there isn't much difference:

Brady: 373/601 (62.1%) - 3,764 yards - 28 TDs - 14 INTs - Rating: 85.7
Goose: 375/610 (61.5%) - 4,359 yards - 24 TDs - 15 INTs - Rating: 86.0

	31-12-2002 04:05									#149
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Remember Bledsoe played on a team that was 3-13 last year and is now 8-8 (one game behind the Pats, Dolphins, AND AFC East winning Jets). It's gonna bite the Pats on the ass in the future (especially trading him to a division rival).

	31-12-2002 04:08									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui (especially trading him to a division rival).

Yea, that was a mistake, although they did manage to sweep the Bills this season