30-12-2002 01:53									#31
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	30-12-2002 01:56									#32
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Just for the fun of it, I decided to press "Show my results" without changing anything, effectively declaring myself unsure of everything.

The result list generated:

#1 You adhere to the Third Way
#2 You are a Christian democrat
#3 You are a classical socialist
#4 You are a communist
#5 You are a fascist
#6 You are a libertarian conservative
#7 You are a market liberal
#8 You are a social democrat
#9 You are a social liberal
#10 You are an anarcho-capitalist
#11 You are an anarcho-communist
#12 You are an ecologist or green

Draw your own conclusions from this.

EDIT: Nevermind, they're just put into alphabetical order.

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	30-12-2002 02:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Sava: The right-wing forces I agree with are supported by industry, religius groups, the military, and the lower middle class... beat that punk ass communist... the proletariat will rise and slaughter the decadent leftist bourgeious.

mwahahahaha the decadent immoral liberals shall reign forever!

	30-12-2002 02:16									#34
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That post by Albert is probably the most inconsistent piece of crap I've seen in quite a while. And I am a frequent visitor to apolyton.

	30-12-2002 02:17									#35
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#1 You are an ecologist or green
#2 You are a social liberal
#3 You are a classical socialist
#4 You are a social democrat
#5 You are an anarcho-communist
#6 You are a communist
#7 You adhere to the Third Way
#8 You are a market liberal
#9 You are an anarcho-capitalis
#10 You are a Christian democrat
#11 You are a fascist
#12 You are a libertarian conservative

	30-12-2002 02:18									#36
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Black Dragon:

Excuse me?

	30-12-2002 02:19									#37
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Zero-Tau:

quote: Default order is alphabetical

	30-12-2002 02:23									#38
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D'oh! Me stupid.

Still, it doesn't really make sense to pass out a result when you haven't actually taken the test.

	30-12-2002 02:25									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Black Dragon: Excuse me?

That's Right! The proletariot is too busy doing drugs and having abnormal sex(supported of course by the evil suburban immoral liberal conspiracy) to ever rise up and slaughter the burgeois like you said! Not that you could anyway since abortion is already destroying all of your warriors.

	30-12-2002 02:29									#40
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Azazeal:

Inconsistant? Industry, religious groups, the military, and the lower middle class are the most conservative aspects of American society...

	30-12-2002 02:31									#41
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BD:

You do realize that even you, as a libertarian (and I should note, a personally religious libertarian), you are far closer to me politically than to the liberals and socialists...

	30-12-2002 03:00									#42
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The lower middle class the most conservative?? So you mean to tell me all the union laborers in urban areas that all vote Democrat are all conservative??

And Speer, Shi is much closer to me because he thinks Nazis and Fascists are bad Regardless of our socio-economic and religious beliefs, common sense and goor morals separate us from you Speer.

	30-12-2002 03:09									#43
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#1 Social Liberal
#2 Ecologist / Green
#3 Anarcho-capitalist
#4 Anarcho-communist
#5 Classical Socialist
#6 Market Liberal
#7 Social Democrat
#8 Communist
#9 Third Way
#10 Libertarian Conservative
#11 Christian Democrat
#12 Fascist

	30-12-2002 03:13									#44
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Yay Anodyne

	30-12-2002 03:20									#45
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Sava:

Lower middle class does include urbanites... and polls consistantly show black urbanites especially are consistantly pro-life, in favour of school prayer, etc. They vote Democrat primarily because of the Democratic racial policies that are supposedly in favour of blacks. I do not know why white urbanites would vote Democrat, however, nor do I consider there is a notably difference among Democratic and Republican voters in cities. In the last mayoral election, for example, democratic John Street won but with only 51% of the vote... that is not a dramatic enough victory for someone to declare even Philadelphia a democratic city.

But lower middle class would also include, for example, Southernors in small towns, trailer parks, and farms, who are undoubtedly conservative.


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	30-12-2002 03:25									#46
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#1 Social liberal.
#2 Social democrat.
#3 Third Way
#4 Anarcho-capitalist.
#5 Market liberal.
#6 Ecologist or green.
#7 Libertarian conservative.
#8 Classical socialist
#9 Communist.
#10 Christian democrat
#11 Anarcho-communist
#12 Fascist.

	30-12-2002 03:34									#47
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quote: The lower middle class the most conservative?? So you mean to tell me all the union laborers in urban areas that all vote Democrat are all conservative??

Actually for all that tying to the Democrat party, unions are VERY, VERY conservative. Remember the Reagan Democrats? Most of them were union members.

	30-12-2002 03:39									#48
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There's more difference within the parties than between em. Truism, but true. Also true over here.

	30-12-2002 03:51									#49
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I guess this fits with the nationstates thing so I might as well....

And I am a test whore like stefu

social libera
social democrat
third way
christian democrat
eco/green
market liberal
anarcho capitalist
libertarian conservative
classical socialist
fascist
communist
anarcho communist.


everythign below green sux.

	30-12-2002 03:51									#50
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According to this one:

1. anarcho-capitalist
2. market liberal
3. social liberal
4. social democrat
5. libertarian conservative
6. third way
7. ecologist or green
8. christian democrat
9. classical socialist
10. anarcho-communist
11. communist
12. fascist

Hey!

	30-12-2002 04:01									#51
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Stefu: Not... quite. It'll be a communitarian-libertarian-radical triangle, which means US liberals, US Conservatives and Commies all will end up in positions that are half-way between two extremes. I hope.

The questions will not be trick questions this time, but pretty straight-forward analysis questions with as many answers as I can think of.

Example: Do you believe positive discrimination ("affirmative action") is justified in order to increase the appointment of minorities to academic positions? Pick the one that's most like your position.

a) Yes, in order to increase the amount of power of those groups in society (2 pts. Radical)
b) Yes, but only to compensate them against discrimination and protect their individual rights (1 pt. Radical, 1 pt. Libertarian)
c) No, because I believe it will be counterproductive in increasing their standing in society, although that is an ultimate aim (1 pt. Radical)
d) No, because I do not believe in state intervention in the lives of individuals (2 pts. Libertarian)
e) No, because I do not think minorities should recive more power (2 pts. Communitarian)
f) No, because I believe only the most competent people should be selected for the job (1 pt. Communitarian)
g) Only if it is a public institution. I do not think the state should intervene in the running of civil society. (1 pt. Libertarian)

or something like that.

	30-12-2002 04:11									#52
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1. Social Democrat
2. Third Way
3. Christian Democrat
4. Social Liberal
5. Ecologist/Green
6. Libertarian Conservative
7. Classical Socialist
8. Fascist
9. Market Liberal
10. Communist
11. Anarcho-capitalist
12. Anarcho-socialist

	30-12-2002 04:23									#53
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Christian democrat
social democrat
ecologist or green
social liberal
classical socialist
libertarian conservative
Third Way
communist
market liberal
anarcho-communist
fascist
anarcho-capitalist

	30-12-2002 04:23									#54
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quote: Stefu: Not... quite. It'll be a communitarian-libertarian-radical triangle, which means US liberals, US Conservatives and Commies all will end up in positions that are half-way between two extremes. I hope.

Yes, well, that's what I meant. Conservative-liberal-socialist is just putting it in more common terms. (I mean, you don't get to hear the word 'communitarian' that often, do you?)

From what I see, the test's on good grounds. Incidentally, I don't think that b should give libertarian points. Will there be negative points?

	30-12-2002 07:40									#55
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"And Speer, Shi is much closer to me because he thinks Nazis and Fascists are bad Regardless of our socio-economic and religious beliefs, common sense and goor morals separate us from you Speer."

Exactly. I am much closer to leftists then Speer because Speer is a complete *******. Nazi/Fascist scum like Speer is just about the lowest type of scum there is. Sava and I both had fascist low on our list, Speer you had it up pretty high. The fact is Speer you ideas suck and you suck too.

	30-12-2002 08:51									#57
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1. You are an anarcho-communist
2. You are an anarcho-capitalist.
3. You are a market liberal.
4. You are a social liberal.
5. You are an ecologist or green.

Hmm. Kind of makes sense at first

6. You are a Christian democrat.
7. You are a classical socialist.
8. You are a social democrat.
9. You are a communist.
10. You adhere to the Third Way.
11. You are a libertarian conservative.
12. You are a fascist.

I don't get this order at all.

Actually I my real politics is pretty much out and out anarchy. Though perhaps that is more my philosophy. If comparing the test with the politics I will argue at pubs the test was fairly accurate.

	30-12-2002 11:50									#58
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Market Liberal
Anarcho-capitalist
Libertarian Conservative (WTF does this mean? The two are complete opposites from an American viewpoint)
Social Liberal
Christian Democrat
Social Democrat
Third Way
Fascist
Ecologist/Green
Classical Socialist
Anarcho-communist
Communist

About as expected, given that Libertarianism really doesn't seem to exist in Europe.

	30-12-2002 12:32									#59
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David Floyd:

Liberal Conservative is what the United States would be considered to many Europeans... meaning liberal economically (as in capitalist) and conservative socially (as in freedoms rather than rights to things such as healthcare [and also meaning that we as a nation are generally against abortion on demand and drug legalization which is very conservative compared to nations such as Netherlands])

makes sense?


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	30-12-2002 12:35									#60
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Makes sense, except my question was about a Libertarian Conservative