10-01-2003 07:36									#1
	Orders, Report & Discussion for 2630BC Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I think that this will be the date of the next turn.

This is the tread for 2630BC. Get it while it's hot.

Eta Tamali

[EDIT] changed the date

Last edited by E_T on 10-01-2003 at 10:00

	10-01-2003 07:55									#2
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It will be 2630 BC. The interval is 40 years until 1750 BC, when it becomes 25 years.

	10-01-2003 09:06									#3
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I would like to request that the conscript warriors from the Bulgar tribe (or another of mighty armies) be moved temporarily to Pamplona to prevent civil disorder while she attempts to complete a garrison of spearman.

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	10-01-2003 09:58									#4
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THe warrior that just poped open the Hut is closer. Let the other one do some exploring of teh Interior for a bit

E_T

	10-01-2003 14:56									#5
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Orders for the slaves:

When irrigation finished, road.
After that, move to the other cow and mine.

	10-01-2003 19:32									#6
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quote: Originally posted by E_T THe warrior that just poped open the Hut is closer. Let the other one do some exploring of teh Interior for a bit

Whichever is closest would be okay with me

Señor Dejon (or other, if someone else does the turn ), could you please micromanage Pamplona to use a cow and Gold Mountain. Please don't leave it like that, but could you compare the times it will take to get to Writing before and after you switch it.... just to check the impact it would have on our research and let us know what it is.

Afterwards, please return it to both cows before the turn ends. When we get to size 3, using Gold Mountian could be and option. It nets 1 shield and 4 commerce as is .

Thank you

	10-01-2003 20:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by ruby_maser Señor Dejon (or other, if someone else does the turn ), could you please micromanage Pamplona to use a cow and Gold Mountain. Please don't leave it like that, but could you compare the times it will take to get to Writing before and after you switch it.... just to check the impact it would have on our research and let us know what it is.

As of right now (2670 BC), switching from the non-river cow (the one we're irrigating) to the gold mountain would get us Writing in14 turns while changing the next growth of Pamlona to 20 turns.

Adding only one more gold would bring Writing down to 18 turns, which makes me wonder if we shouldn't have roaded the cow first, oh well. The irrigation will be done this turn and roading will be finished in another three turns.

	10-01-2003 21:06									#8
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Magyars

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	10-01-2003 21:09									#9
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Boy, you happen to be away for a few days and everything get complicated. I can’t follow the diplomacy at all

	10-01-2003 22:10									#10
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The Bulgers will be moved to Pamplona SOON, but we have a few turns until Pamplona gets to size 3, so let's use them to do a little additional scouting and keep that unit within range to return in time to quell any possible revolts.

--Togas

	11-01-2003 00:08									#11
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quote: Originally posted by dejon As of right now (2670 BC), switching from the non-river cow (the one we're irrigating) to the gold mountain would get us Writing in14 turns while changing the next growth of Pamlona to 20 turns.

Well, I was only considering it after we became size 3 as brief boost to research.

From now (2670 BC), we will discover Writing in 20 turns. If we switched now, it would knock 6 turns off that time. I expect that would decline with each turn we waited to switch, but it currently says Pamplona will need 5 turns to grow. However, the irrigation of the cow bonus should kick in next turn, so it actually will only be 4 turns.

I would only switch it over if a number of people felt like it was a priority to speed up research. Otherwise, the 3 WF will go to the forest tile. I just wanted everyone to know that there was an option there to get our research rate up a bit.

	11-01-2003 01:16									#12
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Madrid expedition : NW (we could get a nice glimpse into ND's territory from the top of this mountain, then we'll go south back home)

	11-01-2003 02:14									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Togas The Bulgers will be moved to Pamplona SOON, but we have a few turns until Pamplona gets to size 3, so let's use them to do a little additional scouting and keep that unit within range to return in time to quell any possible revolts.

I thought it might be wise to clarify that from my scenario it is clear that Pamplona will grow in 4 turns, not 5 like it states now. The irrigation should be completed next turn and will start netting us more food.

So, if the Bulgar Warriors are to keep exploring, they can only move one tile further away before coming back if they are to be in time to keep things peaceful.

Just a heads up

	11-01-2003 02:27									#14
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4 turns, eh? The Bulgers will only go on a Three Turn Tour of the moutains, then.

--Togas

	11-01-2003 02:46									#15
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If the Bulgars are to garrison in Pamplona in 4 turns, they I think they should go S, E, E, and then N into Pamplona.

And the Pamplona Warriors can explore the desest before turning S to continue searching the mountain ridge.

	11-01-2003 02:59									#16
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The Pamplona Warriors are closer to Pamplona. THe Bulger Warior shouls do a zig-zag explore. It should move south then west, then south again.

Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 03:03									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Crousto Madrid expedition : NW (we could get a nice glimpse into ND's territory from the top of this mountain, then we'll go south back home)

That might be a mistake. We just asked ND to keep their Scout away from getting a good look at our territory and we shouldn't push this with getting a good look at their's. Madrid Warrior should move south and way from ND's boarder.

Letus Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 03:08									#18
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quote: Originally posted by E_T The Pamplona Warriors are closer to Pamplona. THe Bulger Warior shouls do a zig-zag explore. It should move south then west, then south again. Eta Tamali

I must disagree. It doesn't matter that the Pamplona warriors are closer - we don't need something there for 4 turns. And if we find a goodie hut with barbarians, the conscripts are less likely to survive, but they can do fine as a garrison until Pamplona build's a spearman.

Also, the Pamplona warriors are closer to finishing exploration of the desest/valley already, whereas the conscripts would have to move north and then come back down again.

	11-01-2003 03:12									#19
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Could someone tell me if the Desert looking tile that is 2 tiles due south of the Bulgar Warrior is a desert or a Flood plain? I'm still doing the next city site map and I need to know.

E_T

	11-01-2003 03:12									#20
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quote: Originally posted by E_T That might be a mistake. We just asked ND to keep their Scout away from getting a good look at our territory and we shouldn't push this with getting a good look at their's. Madrid Warrior should move south and way from ND's boarder. Letus Eta Tamali

Wow, I don't think I've ever disagreed with Señor Tamali twice in one thread!

ND has not kept away from our territory. We asked them to not move S between our cities, and we blocked them anyway with the spearman, so we don't know if they would have consented. Now they are skimming our borders and even moved through our lands last turn! I hardly think placing the Madrid Expedition on a mountain top outside their land is unfriendly.

	11-01-2003 03:18									#21
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First time for anything...

Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 03:21									#22
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quote: Originally posted by E_T Could someone tell me if the Desert looking tile that is 2 tiles due south of the Bulgar Warrior is a desert or a Flood plain? I'm still doing the next city site map and I need to know. E_T

Um, the tile 2 tiles due south of the Bulgar Warrior is normal plains.

Señor Tamali - are you feeling okay? Two questionable opinions and now you aren't properly recognizing map tiles...maybe you should lie down.

	11-01-2003 03:24									#23
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Sorry, I was looking at it with the partly transparent city overlay on it. It changed the color to look like a desert. Thanks...

Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 04:16									#24
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I just spotted ND's horse. See this post for the picture.

Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 05:00									#25
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quote: Originally posted by E_T I just spotted ND's horse.

Good. They won't have an immediated desire to come after ours then.

	11-01-2003 05:20									#26
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quote: Originally posted by ruby_maser Good. They won't have an immediated desire to come after ours then.

No, but they might decide to build a city that would be closer to us and have the Horse in it's boarders.

Eta Tamali

	11-01-2003 13:07									#27
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Turn Report for 2630

The Madrid Expedition moved NW, discovered game inside the Arabian borders.

TEG traveled south down the coast and found a new mountain range.

The Magyars continued their eastern expedition uncovering more gold and a bay.

1st Guardians of Madrid are closer to home.

The Pamplona Warriors ventured west into the desert.

The Bulger Warriors, instead of going back home where they belong, went south to find a NEW GOODIE HUT hidden in the highlands.

Pamplona grows in 3 turns and the warriors are 3 moves away, which was a slip up on my part. We may want to delay the growth of Pamplona 1 turn by micromanaging the workers the next two turns.

The Madrid settlers arrive in 2 turns.

Other stats can be found here

--Togas

	11-01-2003 13:57									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Togas The Bulger Warriors, instead of going back home where they belong, went south to find a NEW GOODIE HUT hidden in the highlands. Pamplona grows in 3 turns and the warriors are 3 moves away, which was a slip up on my part. We may want to delay the growth of Pamplona 1 turn by micromanaging the workers the next two turns.

Woo Hoo! Another Goodie Hut!

That was not a slip-up, that is precise timing:
2590 BC: Bulgars move E
2550 BC: Bulgars move E
2510 BC: Pamplona grows, Bulgars move N into city

The city will not go into discontent in 2510 BC, it would go into discontent in 2470 BC if we didn't have a garrison.

As for popping the hut, if TEG takes a sidestep E, then the Pamplona warriors can head straight there and pop it in 3 turns.

	11-01-2003 14:20									#29
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Nice turn

Please, how can I get the Mod you are using ?

	11-01-2003 14:57									#30
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quote: Originally posted by astrologix Nice turn Please, how can I get the Mod you are using ?

E_T emailed the mods to me, but I think they're Sn00py's terrain mods. E_T can give you more info about 'em.

--Togas