16-01-2003 23:31									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Can someone explain the "pro-choice vegatarian who won't eat eggs". I don't get how its funny.

It's not funny, but it is mildly amusing. Pro-choice will kill the eggs/fetuses/unborn children, but won't eat the eggs/fetuses/unborn chickens. Get it?

	16-01-2003 23:38									#32
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quote: I doubt Christ would approve of it.

Why not?

	16-01-2003 23:48									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Can someone explain the "pro-choice vegatarian who won't eat eggs". I don't get how its funny.

Unknown. Wouldn't "vegetarian who eats eggs" be more contradictory?

	16-01-2003 23:50									#34
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That would depend on the kind of vegitarian we are talking about, wouldn't it?

	16-01-2003 23:54									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Sinapus Unknown. Wouldn't "vegetarian who eats eggs" be more contradictory?

Why? Eggs aren't meat. A vegan who ate eggs would be contradictory, but not a vegetarian.

	16-01-2003 23:55									#36
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc quote: I doubt Christ would approve of it. Why not?

Oh, there's all that "turn the other cheek," forgiveness, non-violence stuff he rambles on about. Executing someone isn't turning the other cheek, nor exercising forgiveness.

	16-01-2003 23:58									#37
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Boris: There is nothing at all in the Bible against the Death Penalty. The closest you could possibly find is the Christian forgery in John 8:3-11.

	17-01-2003 00:00									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley It's not funny, but it is mildly amusing. Pro-choice will kill the eggs/fetuses/unborn children, but won't eat the eggs/fetuses/unborn chickens. Get it?

Not really.

	17-01-2003 00:02									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Not really.

I don't either.

	17-01-2003 00:04									#40
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Boris: There is nothing at all in the Bible against the Death Penalty.

Directly, no...but Jesus's positions on violence, forgiveness and such indicate he would not support it. Even the OT says "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord," albeit contradictorally to other OT passages.

Still, nothing in the NT leads me to believe Jesus would approve of capital punishment.

	17-01-2003 00:07									#41
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God also says that gays go to hell, so you're fried

(better than pancy heaven if you ask me)

	17-01-2003 00:09									#42
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 God also says that gays go to hell, so you're fried

No he doesn't.

	17-01-2003 00:11									#43
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Yes he does

	17-01-2003 00:12									#44
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I read it in Apolyton

	17-01-2003 00:13									#45
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Yes he does

You'll have to wait until tonight if you truely want a serious discussion on that point. I'm about to go eat.

	17-01-2003 00:15									#46
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc You'll have to wait until tonight if you truely want a serious discussion on that point. I'm about to go eat.

Omelette?

	17-01-2003 00:15									#47
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Bon Apetit

	17-01-2003 00:16									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Eggs?

Close. Chicken.

	17-01-2003 00:19									#49
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If you ever come to Europe try british cow.

	17-01-2003 00:26									#50
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Young men who say gays go to Hell whilst ignoring the fact that sleeping around with chicks (as they do) is far more likely to send them to Hell. I'm sure when they get there Satan will really rub salt into their festering pustules by quoting that line from Jesus about removing the plank from your own eye before telling others about the speck in their eyes.

Or something.

	17-01-2003 00:28									#51
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What he does say is "All have sinned and fallen short of the Law." No exceptions. Not even you Paiktis.

Boris, Capitol Punishment is not contradictory to biblical teachings, although I'm against CP for other reasons. It is wrong to kill innocent human beings, while not necessarily wrong to kill human beings who kill others.

Dinodoc- the passage you cite actually defends the right to a proper trial. I don't know what you mean by 'christian forgery.'

John 5-6; 9-10
"In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him."
"At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"

	17-01-2003 00:36									#52
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Troll/Threadjack alert:

Where is this Hell? Is it a place? Is it a state of mind? Is it the last thought that goes through your mind? Can I post a letter there? Come on. No one has ever seen Hell or Heaven. How can you constantly threaten people with something for which there is absolutely no evidence.

If you can get into Hell, you must be able to get out.

From near death experiences:

Drowning victims come back talking of a tunnel of light with all of their relatives waiting for them.

Heart attack victims, when you can get them to talk, come back talking of hellish visions.

Sounds to me to be strictly a bio-chemical side-effect.

	17-01-2003 00:38									#53
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No in the old testament is says gays go to hell
I read it in Apolyton.


besides God would send you to hell if you havent lived your life in my book

	17-01-2003 00:43									#54
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People who understand the scientific method and yet still buy into religion. (I know, I'm in for it now)

People who honestly believe that the USA has the moral right to tell others they can't have Nukes because they aren't responsible enough to have them, while still believing we are justified in keeping ours. *please note that wanting to limit the spread of nukes w/o the moral blather is, IMO, another story*

-Arrian

	17-01-2003 00:55									#55
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MosesP, I had a college biology professor who was also quite a devout Christian, and he said he had no doubt that "Near Death Experiences" were entirely the by-product of chemical processes in the brain. This miffed some of the Christian students in the class, who were convinced such things were proof of life after death.

	17-01-2003 01:22									#56
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What happens when we die?

Martin Luthor once said that he looks forward to the time when he hears a knock on his coffin saying, "Dr. Martin- Get up!"

In other words, nothing happens until the second coming when the dead are resurrected. This is an issue of some debate within Christianity, because the exact sequence of events are not clear.

The truth is we don't really know what Hell is apart from an eternal seperation from God. Lakes of fire are not mentioned anywhere in the bible.

MosesPresley- one has come back from the dead, and lived to tell his tale. All he offered was a glimpse at what life would be like in Heaven rather than in Hell. The carrot, rather than the stick. Just the idea of having our fleshy imperfections fall away sounds pretty good to me.

"besides God would send you to hell if you havent lived your life in my book"

Paiktis, I don't think he likes using a book he hasn't written.

	17-01-2003 01:23									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian People who understand the scientific method and yet still buy into religion. (I know, I'm in for it now)

Where is the contradiction?

	17-01-2003 01:27									#58
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quote: besides God would send you to hell if you havent lived your life in my book

quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Paiktis, I don't think he likes using a book he hasn't written.

that (or something similar) is actually included in another book though

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846

	17-01-2003 01:34									#59
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Dino,

Simple. The SM requires empircal data and logic. Religion, on the other hand, is all about faith in the absense of empirical evidence or logic.

-Arrian

	17-01-2003 01:42									#60
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Zorba the Greek packaged with the Last temptation of Christ for $21.99 US?

That's not a bad deal.

Wonder how many they've sold.