26-02-2003 18:51									#301
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Your Light Brigade or mine?

	26-02-2003 19:25									#302
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we are the ones far from home headed into a moutain valley with unknown defenders on the other side, IMO

	26-02-2003 20:33									#303
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The allusion makes more sense for your cav of course. Does this mean you think they'll be wiped out by my guns?

	26-02-2003 20:48									#304
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Ah, that is the question. There is not much historical evidence on what happens to Zulu cavs.

	26-02-2003 21:36									#305
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Nothing historical in this world (yet), but after the debacle at Isandlwana (on Earth) the Brits got serious about the issue and the Zulu army was wiped out by guns and lancers.

	26-02-2003 21:50									#306
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Spencer :

Why dont you simply gift all your cities to us? It will save many Mongolian lives.

	26-02-2003 22:55									#307
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Thats your only chance my friend. Unless you've got a bagfull of cav left, I suggest you sue for peace and pay reparations for your perfidity. I still have >30 cities all producing units at a good pace. Unless you withdraw immediately my vengence will leave you crippled, giving the game to Jshelr (if he's so inclined to warmonger on whats left of the Koreans).

	27-02-2003 00:11									#308
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I believe you should count cities again Spencer. And while you are counting, don't forget to adjust for corruption. And don't forget the advantage we have in two-civ research.

It's up to Eli to decide when he wants peace. But there is no question that time is on our side.

Why don't you come on over to my place and pick on someone your own size.

	27-02-2003 01:01									#309
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I didnt start this. As you say, two civ research had an advantage on my one large civ. You could have chosen the peaceful approach (as I did) but you opted for war instead. I'm just stating my analysis of the situation and how I will handle it. You have always had the defensive advantage of being on another continent.

	27-02-2003 01:16									#310
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quote: It's up to Eli to decide when he wants peace.

I wont let this game degrade to Dissident's game where we are all peaceful and researching at max rate. That's boring.

Sorry Spencer, but the war will end only when one of us dies.

	27-02-2003 01:44									#311
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Sent.

	27-02-2003 01:48									#312
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Oh, dont get me wrong, the game had become boring. Je ne regret rien (except trusting delmar). This conflict is completely inevitable. I just wish civ combat was more complex so that it would be enjoyable for me. After all I'm not a peacenik .

My problem was that Delmar left me with a huge ancient army. It would have been too easy to sweep down with 60 Keshiks and obliterate the Koreans. Delmar had set it up to gain control of the continent and therby give the mongols a win by virtue of controlling 2/3 of the world. If I followed that plan I would merely be a placeholder. So I chose peace instead.

I only got to two of your cav this turn.

Jshelr - You sunk my galley- you bastard I had some surprises in there for you. A risk for me I know but I wanted to see what would happen.

Turn sent

	27-02-2003 02:03									#313
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We are, you may recall, a seafaring nation with extra moves, good recon, and all that kind of stuff.

Four or five cavs killed, whatever it was.

	27-02-2003 02:07									#314
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After you sank the first I thought it was a risk but I figured an elite galley would survive long enough. Oh well, theres more where they came from.

	27-02-2003 02:15									#315
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Bring 'em on. I like killing three units with the risk of only one unit lost. My little stack over here will also win round two every time we don't win round one.

By the way, it is very doubtful that your continent is going to make the 2/3 rule by itself. Never saw a 2-continent map where it did. There's also a population rule as well. We have the pyramids.

	27-02-2003 02:35									#316
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I didnt say it was my plan

	27-02-2003 05:50									#317
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880AD sent

	27-02-2003 12:45									#318
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Sent.

	27-02-2003 17:48									#319
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Interesting

890AD sent no battles

	27-02-2003 21:51									#320
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900AD sent

no combat

	27-02-2003 22:20									#321
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Sent.

	27-02-2003 22:41									#322
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sent

	28-02-2003 02:15									#323
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Why are Korean troops continuing to advance on my cities despite your offer and my acceptance of a peace treaty 2 turns ago ?

I gave up a tactical advantage because of it.

I wont play the turn until I have a straight answer.

	01-03-2003 01:28									#324
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Hi guys? Is there a communications problem in the middle of this war?

If it is Spencer's position that the game informed him that there was peace and if it is Eli's position that he did not intend to offer peace, perhaps we could declare a short truce or do something else to give everyone a chance to get onside.


Spencer, if you have a moment, go back and look at the turn when you believed the screen gave you peace. Was it accepted?

I ask because f4 shows you still at war in the last turn i have here at work. It may be that no one is intending to fool anybody but that you are still at war.

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	01-03-2003 02:24									#325
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Why are Korean troops continuing to advance on my cities despite your offer and my acceptance of a peace treaty 2 turns ago ? I gave up a tactical advantage because of it. I wont play the turn until I have a straight answer.

I was just testing the Ferengi rules of aquisition. Rule 076 to be exact.

"Every once in a while, declare peace. "It confuses the hell out of your enemies"."

	01-03-2003 02:42									#326
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Eli's answer is clear enough to me. He did offer peace and I did accept it. Since he's not Ferenghi, I just didnt expect it to be a lie. But thats a part of the human game that makes it more interesting I suppose.

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He sent it, I responded affirmatively. Therefore by civ3 rules we're at peace and I thought nothing more of it.

Here's the positions around Niagara Falls

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	01-03-2003 02:50									#328
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I withdrew from that position.

If it was a ruse, it worked well since I withdrew the forces that would have taken Veii and re-deployed them elsewhere.

I simply wanted a clarification and I'll now send the next turn.

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Edit : My pre-edit message is no longer relevant.

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Sent.