20-01-2003 01:50									#1
	Is the redirect screen deceitful? Increase Your PM Length

I mean, think about it. Everytime you click on a link that takes you out of Poly, two things happen:

1. You go to a "redirect" screen, which does absolutely nothing but pad Poly hit (click?) counts by adding people who are leaving the site.

2. You always get an ad, no exception. I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad... do the advertisers know that their ads are being consistently shown to people leaving the site?*

And did you know if you leave the popups open, they don't multiply. If you close them, though, you'll get a new one once you make another Poly click. I've been testing this theory with the "One2One" and the "You're computer may not be running our crap utilities" ads.

*I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care. But it's still a bit... shady.

	20-01-2003 01:59									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

That's what Apolyton does to survive . A pop-up popping up gets the site revenue.

	20-01-2003 04:19									#3
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quote: You always get an ad, no exception

there are no ads in the redirection pages

	20-01-2003 04:23									#4
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Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website.

Are you just being pedantic Mark?

	20-01-2003 04:37									#5
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quote: Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website.

oh THOSE redirect pages....

i thought he was referring to the forum redirect pages(shown after posting, etc)

quote: I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad...

yes. apolyton.

quote: I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care

they dont (care)

	20-01-2003 04:49									#6
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG oh THOSE redirect pages....

'Tis pretty sneaky........but if the advertisers don't care there is no problem, unless you have a problem with pop-ups generally.

	20-01-2003 04:53									#7
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quote: quote: I assume somebody is getting paid for this ad... quote: yes. apolyton. quote: I'm pretty sure if they did, they wouldn't care quote: they dont (care)

Then you have our blessing...

	20-01-2003 05:59									#8
	Got spare money?

it seems that no one thinks the form of advertising is deceitful.

Me? I don't give a damn about the advertisers and gladly would screw them over if i had a chance

	20-01-2003 06:18									#9
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by H Tower Me? I don't give a damn about the advertisers and gladly would screw them over if i had a chance

If you don't depend of their $$$ that is.

	20-01-2003 06:26									#10
	Put an end to popups!

I don't think the form of advertising is deceitful, I just think that the use of redirect pages is, well, not 110% honest.

Thanks for the answers Mark. Now I have another question:

When I started posting this thread, I could've sworn that I saw another thread in this forum that looked really interesting, something entitled "How Long Will Apolyton Last". When I was done, it was gone.

Am I seeing things? Or did the thread happen to get deleted sometime around 3:50pm, EST (US)?

	20-01-2003 06:36									#11
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT When I started posting this thread, I could've sworn that I saw another thread in this forum that looked really interesting, something entitled "How Long Will Apolyton Last". When I was done, it was gone. Am I seeing things? Or did the thread happen to get deleted sometime around 3:50pm, EST (US)?

Seeing things The thread is still there:

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...&threadid=73135

	20-01-2003 06:54									#12
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG quote: Ads come up in another new window whenever you click a link to an outside website. oh THOSE redirect pages.... i thought he was referring to the forum redirect pages(shown after posting, etc)

I thought JohnT's "Everytime you click on a link that takes you out of Poly" would have been a giveaway.

	20-01-2003 07:40									#13
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quote: Originally posted by vovansim Seeing things The thread is still there: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...&threadid=73135

more like NOT seeing things

	20-01-2003 07:47									#14
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Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.

	20-01-2003 08:50									#15
	Nudge Nudge Wink Wink. Say no more!. Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.

You mean the pop-ups don't annoy you else you would use a pop-up blocker. Seeing as how you support Poly wholeheartedly and all you wouldn't attempt to deny it much needed revenues.

	20-01-2003 09:29									#16
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Hehehe, yeah. Sure. That's the ticket.

	20-01-2003 12:36									#17
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quote: Yes it is a little underhanded but it keeps 'poly going so I don't care. The pop-ups also don't bother me since I use a pop-up blocker.

actually, you dont care cause you dont get to see the pop-ups, not because you care about apolyton.....

	20-01-2003 14:42									#18
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I think SD beat you to the punch there Mark.

	20-01-2003 14:44									#19
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

i wanted to put some added emphasis on the punch....

	20-01-2003 14:47									#20
	Increase the size of your Attachments

No pop-ups ---> No post count !!

	20-01-2003 14:49									#21
	Put an end to popups!

Maybe you should PM everyone that states they use pop-up blockers with a pic of the t-shirt.

No Ads
No Cash
No Site

(please notice the cleverly designed ACS acronym )

	20-01-2003 14:58									#22
	Get a bigger avatar today!

The ads donīt bother me. I get so very few of them anyway... I use Phoenix

	20-01-2003 15:53									#23
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

:yawn:

	20-01-2003 23:05									#24
	Inflate your Upload Space

Well, I guess the poll says it all - with a 7-to-1 vote (so far) saying that it is not deceitful.

	21-01-2003 02:41									#25
	Inflate your Upload Space

Time to close this I fear.

	21-01-2003 06:46									#26
	Suffering from ads?

It isn't deceitful, I don't even wait for them to finish loading anymore, I'm good at space invaders too.

ACK!

	21-01-2003 10:35									#27
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I don't block the ads. I occassionally click on one just to show my support.

Of course, you just get 30 more pop-ups.

	21-01-2003 11:18									#28
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That's why I set one of my mouse buttons to 'close ' windows/programs instead of the default 'next'.

Very good alternative to a pop killer

	21-01-2003 13:09									#29
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Huh, that's kind of a good idea Alva. You get to kill the pop ups and 'poly still gets revinue from the pop up popping up.

	21-01-2003 13:31									#30
	Tired of ads?

quote: You get to kill the pop ups and 'poly still gets revinue from the pop up popping up.

actually, that depends, as some pop-up programs now require that the window remains open for a set number of seconds in order for it to count....