22-01-2003 08:19									#1
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http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html


I think it's amusing and informative, but not racist.


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	22-01-2003 08:25									#2
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Stupid.

	22-01-2003 08:26									#3
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It's meant to be satire, from what I can tell.

	22-01-2003 08:36									#4
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Seems very satirical to me, makes fun of a lot of things:

"I'm not racist, I have black friends."

Is just one.

ACK!

	22-01-2003 08:39									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Seems very satirical to me, makes fun of a lot of things: "I'm not racist, I have black friends." Is just one. ACK!

And the picture of the clueless guy trying to figure out the hangman puzzle of R_CIST.

	22-01-2003 09:01									#6
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good stuff. It shows a good point that some white people are ashamed to admit: they like having black friends simple because they're black, well not just black, but stereotypically black.

	22-01-2003 09:08									#7
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It's satirical, and extremely entertaining.

	22-01-2003 09:16									#8
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I don't know how anyone could miss the satire. They beat you over the head with it.

	22-01-2003 09:18									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Hobbes good stuff. It shows a good point that some white people are ashamed to admit: they like having black friends simple because they're black, well not just black, but stereotypically black.

....and yet the links page has quite a number of links to positive websites for and about black people in the US and Britain, so maybe there actually was a point to this website. Something along the lines of "put your money where your mouth is."

	22-01-2003 09:25									#10
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That's still part of what I saying. How, on this site, they are portraying white people who want to be immersed in black culture, the links just add to that. I'm sure they're very grand, though.

	22-01-2003 11:15									#11
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Do they get money some how? I missed how, because it wasn't that entertaining for me. Any how, its commercial if they are making money, nothing more.

	22-01-2003 13:08									#12
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This is obviously not real. Those people look like total geeks. Black people wouldn't like them

	23-01-2003 03:43									#13
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quote: We grew up in your average neighborhoods doing the usual things that all people do: swimming, golf, horseback riding, arts and crafts, gardening, building treehouses, mowing the lawn, selling lemonade, etc.

That's normal?


Dr. Strangelove:

the list of sites were part of the joke being that black people are only interested in "black things"... the entire site is about that being like black people all act stereotypically and those who embrace 'black people' (*cough*liberals) do so in an inherently racist and superficial way


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	23-01-2003 03:46									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer That's normal?

For the 80% of America that doesn't grow up in a ****-hole like Philidelphia, yes.

	23-01-2003 03:52									#15
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chegitz:

is philly really that bad? despite teen pregnancies and drugs and ****, is it really that bad? if i visited the suburbs would i become even more fanatical?


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	23-01-2003 04:00									#16
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Yeah, the suburbs suck ass. But, com'on Speer, even you can make the logical assumtion that many people do growup like that. The reason they used such a 'rich suburban' response, was to highlight the contrast between them and their 'black friends'.

	23-01-2003 04:05									#17
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quote: I love it when Johnny & Sally ask me to sing at parties. All of us can sing, you know.

	23-01-2003 04:10									#18
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quote: That's normal?

Of course! Even around Philly... let's go through, shall we?

quote: swimming

Are you saying you've never seen a pool?

quote: golf, horseback riding

Both are only a few miles outside Philly.

quote: arts and crafts, gardening, building treehouses, mowing the lawn, selling lemonade, etc.

All outdoor suburban activities (well except arts and crafts).

	23-01-2003 04:11									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer chegitz: is philly really that bad? despite teen pregnancies and drugs and ****, is it really that bad? if i visited the suburbs would i become even more fanatical? thanks

I have been through Gary, Indiana and Detroit, Michigan. I have seen the South and West sides of Chicago. I have been all over the US pretty much. I have never been someplace so utterly devestated as Philidelphia. I have seen stuff in Philly that I didn't believe could be found in America.

Philly sucks. The Philly suburbs (at least on the New Jersey side of the river-the PA side ones seemed nice) are hideous. The only things positive I can say about Philly is that they have great steak andwiches, that they aren't as bad as Camden and they have a great hip-hop scene. And this was during the heart of the tech boom, when all of America was prospering (except Philly aparently).

BTW, teen pregnancies are actually worse in the suburbs, but because of their spread out nature and the willingness of suburban kids to get abortions, the impact isn't anywhere near as great as in the inner cities. The drug problem is similar, with very high usage rates in the suburbs. As bad as city life can be, cities are the repositories of culture and have many more things to do than the suburbs. Suburbs are cultural waste-lands for the most part. Check your library for the book, Teenage Wasteland, which is about New Jersey suburban life.

	23-01-2003 04:19									#20
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i just cant imagine a little kid selling lemonade on the corner...

Hobbes:

quote: The reason they used such a 'rich suburban' response, was to highlight the contrast between them and their 'black friends'.

or the stereotype... like the black guy on the site who works in business and the white boy comes up to him giving him a pound and being like whazzzup?!

I was bothered by this site when i first saw it but it really does say something... there's a lot of these rich cracker liberals who be all like I love my African brothers, etc. and are really only racists... ahem... more registered democrats should be taking a look at this.


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	23-01-2003 04:36									#21
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I find it ironic you're such a screaming right-winger yet you use left-wing Black revolutionaries as your avatars. IIRC, that's Hewy Newton.

	23-01-2003 04:38									#22
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He's confused.

	23-01-2003 04:41									#23
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A lot of suburbanites and foreigners (thank you NYPD Blue rebroadcasts) think American cities are far worse than they are; like you'll be shot just walking down the street or if your car is worth more than $8000 you'll be killed and your car stolen. I've never been to Philly, but I've spent a ton of time in inner-city Hartford, North ("bad") Tampa, and North ("bad") St. Louis. By and large, no one will bother you unless you instigate something. I love the cities, they have a great feel to them.

As for the website under consideration, it's cool.

	23-01-2003 04:59									#24
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I find it very funny and don't understand why everything making fun in a satyrical way of ethnic diversity is racism

	23-01-2003 05:06									#25
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quote: or the stereotype... like the black guy on the site who works in business and the white boy comes up to him giving him a pound and being like whazzzup?!

Jeeezus, that's what I said in my first post! The stereotype! You don't need to tell me what I already know.

quote: I was bothered by this site when i first saw it but it really does say something... there's a lot of these rich cracker liberals who be all like I love my African brothers, etc. and are really only racists... ahem... more registered democrats should be taking a look at this.

Huh? How is this a liberal problem? Would it be better if they were right-wingers who admitted to disliking african-americans? And 'Cracker'?! Isn't that the white equivilent of n****r? I think you have the theme of the site mixed up.

	23-01-2003 05:13									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui He's confused.

Give an understatement of the year award to this man.

	23-01-2003 05:28									#27
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Chegitz:

I really wanted Eldridge Cleaver as he was more inline with my beliefs and he realized that black nationalism was a socially conservative movement (being led by a Southern Baptist minister in King and religious leaders in Muhammed and Shabazz) and that the true enemy of blacks was the inherently racist liberal left.

Had Huey Newton (my props to you for recognizing him by the way) lived today, it is concievable he would've followed the same path his fellow Panther Cleaver did and become a militant conservative... Farakhan and the NoI is also, similiarly, militant conservatives populists. I think that would describe my political beliefs well.

Imran and Black Dragon:

Confused? Just because I am the only right-winger left on this site does not mean that my beliefs are wrong because yall converted to decadent libertarianism. What beliefs have I posted here that were down-right contradictory?


hobbes:

quote: Would it be better if they were right-wingers who admitted to disliking african-americans?

right-wingers dislike blacks?


thanks

	23-01-2003 05:32									#28
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quote: right-wingers dislike blacks?

quote: there's a lot of these rich cracker liberals who be all like I love my African brothers, etc. and are really only racists...

and rich white liberals secretly dislike blacks? One goofy generalization deserves another.

	23-01-2003 05:32									#29
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i could not find a picture of cleaver i meant so i had to settle with Newton

	23-01-2003 05:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Chegitz: I really wanted Eldridge Cleaver as he was more inline with my beliefs and he realized that black nationalism was a socially conservative movement (being led by a Southern Baptist minister in King and religious leaders in Muhammed and Shabazz) and that the true enemy of blacks was the inherently racist liberal left.

Cleaver didn't make that "realization" until long after he had ceased to be any kind of leader. He threatened to murder Elane Brown, one of the leader's of the L.A. Panthers (and later the head of the Black Panthers nationally while Huey was in exile) while she was touring the Third World with him. Cleaver was a thoroughly misogynist pig, who never apologized for being a serial rapist (though he apologized for raping Black women). Eventually he himself became a conservative religous leader, and today heads his own little evangelist church. Cleaver was a violent, racist, mysogynist thug who only got famous because he managed to hook up with the Panthers on the way up.

quote: Had Huey Newton (my props to you for recognizing him by the way) lived today, it is concievable he would've followed the same path his fellow Panther Cleaver did and become a militant conservative.

Huey was a drug addict for almost twenty years before someone popped a cap in his brain in the late 1980s. It is unlikely he would have been anything other than the drug derilict he was. (fun fact: chegitz ended up getting in trouble with his organization for daring to contradict "fearless leader" by pointing out that it was Huey Newton who was killed and not Bobby Seale--who is a community laison for Temple University and sells BBQ sauce)

quote: Farakhan and the NoI is also, similiarly, militant conservatives populists. I think that would describe my political beliefs well.

Yeah, I think that just about describes you. . . . You do know that the NoI hates you too.