28-01-2003 19:34									#1
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I was working last night and got to thinking about Star Wars. After a couple of hours of this I realized that Obiwan and Yoda were the only Jedi to vanish! If you recall Obiwan was locked in battle w/ Darth Vader when he said "If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can ever imagine". He then lowered his guard and Vader swung his light saber. However Obiwan just vanished and Vader stepped on his clothes, not understanding where he went. Well, I'm with Vader. In all the recent movies a Jedi just dies and lays there. So where did Obiwan go?

Yoda passed on in front of Luke and vanished too. Where to?

Also, did Obiwan really become so powerful? He told Luke "Go to the Degava system, there you will learn from a Jedi named Yoda". That's more of a travel agent if you ask me...

So what were the powers he was refering to?

	28-01-2003 19:35									#2
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Blackpool

	28-01-2003 19:37									#3
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The medichlorians ate him.

	28-01-2003 20:04									#4
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Bored, Lancer?

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Well John, its just that my job is so challenging.

	28-01-2003 22:15									#6
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Lucas went crazy

only explanation

Jon Miller

	28-01-2003 22:18									#7
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Dramatic effect, maybe?

	28-01-2003 23:17									#8
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Good guys don't die, they just fade away...

	28-01-2003 23:38									#9
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All the Star Wars freaks have asked Lucas this question, and he told them that all the questions will be answered.

I think it was a power thing that Darth Vader would have vanished too.

	28-01-2003 23:55									#10
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I thought it was an "unfinished business" thing. All Jedis have a certain destiny to fulfill, and if they die before it is done, they remain as "spirits" to make sure the job gets done. So Obi-wan comes back as a spirit because he has to help Luke destroy the Death Star, find Yoda, etc.

Yoda and Anakin come back because...um...because...they have to see the Ewok party. Right. Sure. Mmm-hmmm.

Ok, maybe Lucas just does what he wants without regard to plot continuity? That seems most likely...

	28-01-2003 23:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Japher I think it was a power thing that Darth Vader would have vanished too.

vader didn't dissapear, but Anakin Skywalker did, or don't you remember the three glowing images at the end of RotJ?

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quote: vader didn't dissapear, but Anakin Skywalker did, or don't you remember the three glowing images at the end of RotJ?

Yeah, it should of read; I think if it were a power thing vader would have vanished too.

All because we see them as ghosts doesn't mean their bodies disappeared.

	29-01-2003 00:04									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Yeah, it should of read; I think if it were a power thing vader would have vanished too. All because we see them as ghosts doesn't mean their bodies disappeared.

judging by the fact that we have two dead jedis who turn into ghosts when their bodies dissapear, i think it is safe to assume anakin's body dissappeared as well

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quote: Originally posted by H Tower judging by the fact that we have two dead jedis who turn into ghosts when their bodies dissapear, i think it is safe to assume anakin's body dissappeared as well

Except it didn't. Anakin died, leaned back, and was still there. Then Luke hauled his body to Endor and burned it.

	29-01-2003 00:11									#15
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It disappeared later. First, Luke had to burn the evil out.

	29-01-2003 01:27									#16
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Riiight.
I think it would have been a better whole series if ALL of the jedi died with their bodies dissapearing. And get rid of the fu<>cking midochlorians

	29-01-2003 01:28									#17
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Yoda became a guitar.

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What do you mean Lancer?

I'm still here.

Don't know about Yoda, though.

	29-01-2003 03:50									#19
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He might be talking about ottok.

	29-01-2003 03:56									#20
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Obiwan not for us go? Surely!

	29-01-2003 03:58									#21
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Darth didn't vanish, but he did turn up as a glowey guy later. That means that there is no connection between vanishing and turning into a nightlight.

Sten, ohhh how I miss ottok...

Btw, Dad made it over safely.

	29-01-2003 04:05									#22
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Good deal. Sorry that it didn't work out to get together... next time.

ottok was legendary!

	29-01-2003 04:16									#23
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I recall seeing a question about this on starwars.com a while ago... apparantly, it will be answered in Episode 3.

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I wonder if any of his posts survived somewhere? If so we could do a 'ottok revisited' or 'ottok, the lost episodes rediscovered'. I mean there's folks here today that have never known ottok!

ottok

	29-01-2003 04:19									#25
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I just searched starwars.com and there is nothing about ottok in E3.

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Again, I recall seeing something a while ago. It was in one of the "ask Lucas" mail sections.

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Sava, well there's only one shot left to clear this up!

	29-01-2003 04:28									#28
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Who is ottok?

Please enlighten a newbie.

	29-01-2003 04:35									#29
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perhaps the many Electronix Parts in Good Ol' Uncle Vader were the cause.. The hand etc.?
You cant just blink out the Body.. all the nondisposable Waste would just lay there!
thats not Enviroment friendly! Not the Yedi way i'd say!

	29-01-2003 04:40									#30
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Maybe those Jedi whose bodies didn't disappear immediately weren't dead, but were instead in extremis . That means that Luke burned his Dad alive. Well, there's just no accounting for the Jedi way of doing things.