01-02-2003 19:51									#31
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Have I heard correctly? There supposedly are debris near the town Palestine, Texas...

	01-02-2003 19:52									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler NASA has sent out the word to people in the Dallas area to stay away from any debris they find. It's dangerous.

It will be extremely hot for sure. The other main reason is they would want to account for it all and investigate it "as is".

	01-02-2003 19:52									#33
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Administration sources says terrorism unlikely

	01-02-2003 19:53									#34
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Another few years delay in the space program?
What about the ISS and the astronauts there, they'll have to send a shuttle to replace them or somehting quite soon, before the investigation on this disaster is over.

And damnit! Why do we still use 22 years old shuttles?! Who cancelled the X-38?
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The ISS can be supplied by unman russian supply shuttles.

NASA has a $3 Million a year budget as I said before, they can't afford it. Unfortunatly this might be what it takes to increase their budget, much like the FAA which don't fix **** unless there is blood.... lots of blood.

Buzz is already on FNC and just said that the next gen. shuttle would have an escape pod/ejection seats.

	01-02-2003 19:54									#35
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Oh dear, Oh dear.

	01-02-2003 19:55									#36
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It will be extremely hot for sure. The other main reason is they would want to account for it all and investigate it "as is".
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Actualy because of extremely toxic gases according to a NASA PR that was on FNC.

	01-02-2003 19:57									#37
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/...g.ap/index.html

"On launch day, a piece of insulating foam on the external fuel tank came off during liftoff and was believed to have struck the left wing of the shuttle. NASA said as late as Friday that the damage to the thermal tiles was believed to be minor and posed no safety concern during the fiery decent through the atmosphere."

	01-02-2003 19:58									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 QUOTE: ______________________________________ Originally posted by Big Crunch It will be extremely hot for sure. The other main reason is they would want to account for it all and investigate it "as is". ______________________________________ Actualy because of extremely toxic gases according to a NASA PR that was on FNC.

IIRC, they use liquid hydrogen on the space shuttle, which is extremely toxic.

	01-02-2003 19:58									#39
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I don't see how an Arab could have done anything. Unless it was sabotage but that's unlikely since everyone has to have a security clearance to work on the shuttle.

Those shuttles are getting very old though so it is possible that after 20 years of service they're just getting old and worn out.

	01-02-2003 19:59									#40
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Explosion sound rocked the ground, structial failure UNLIKELY.

	01-02-2003 20:00									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Have I heard correctly? There supposedly are debris near the town Palestine, Texas...

Sound like an urban legend in the works... that, or a very strange coincidence.

	01-02-2003 20:00									#42
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My prayers are with the families.

...a flaming comet falls to Earth, over Texas...

You want an ill omen? That's an ill omen.

	01-02-2003 20:00									#43
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I seem to be hearing that on launch of this shuttle there was an incident that NASA was aware of.

Debris hit left wing of shuttle on launch. Engineers determined not significant.

	01-02-2003 20:02									#44
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Anyone who suspects terrorism needs a reality check.

	01-02-2003 20:02									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Sound like an urban legend in the works... that, or a very strange coincidence.

CNN confirmed. Palestine, Texas.

	01-02-2003 20:03									#46
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It was the fire retardent spray that hit the left wing.

	01-02-2003 20:03									#47
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quote: CNN confirmed. Palestine, Texas.

According to CNN, Switzerland invaded Czech Republic in 2002.

I wouldn't trust them when it comes to geography...

	01-02-2003 20:03									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia Sound like an urban legend in the works... that, or a very strange coincidence.

It's being pronounced "palasteen", but yeah reports are that debris is being located near there.

	01-02-2003 20:04									#49
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I seem to be hearing that on launch of this shuttle there was an incident that NASA was aware of.

Debris hit left wing of shuttle on launch. Engineers determined not significant.
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Chaos thoary in the works.

A butterfly flaps it's wings in South America... blows dust and causes a cow to sneeze in Nebraska.

I don't believe in the Chaos theory BTW.

	01-02-2003 20:04									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 QUOTE: ______________________________________ Originally posted by Big Crunch It will be extremely hot for sure. The other main reason is they would want to account for it all and investigate it "as is". ______________________________________ Actualy because of extremely toxic gases according to a NASA PR that was on FNC.

Most things give off toxic gases when the are extremely hot and burning.

	01-02-2003 20:07									#51
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sounds like they may be pointing towards something that happened at liftoff 16 days ago as the possible cause (debris hitting the wing at liftoff)

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According to CNN, Switzerland invaded Czech Republic in 2002.

I wouldn't trust them when it comes to geography...
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I lost confindence in CNN after that botch Vietnam special report... that and the endless OJ trial and the fact I'm boycotting AOL TW. Why? Well check the last line of my sig.

I moved on to MSNBC until they turned intoa National Geographic channel, so I'm on FNC!

	01-02-2003 20:10									#53
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Most things give off toxic gases when the are extremely hot and burning.
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Yes but the hot debre is the least of your problem if the fumes kill you first.

	01-02-2003 20:10									#54
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I guess we won't know for sure until they recover the pieces and reassemble what they can like in an airplane crash. So it will take months before we know what happened.

	01-02-2003 20:11									#55
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This Israeli was the one that supposedly flew an F-16 raid into Iraq to take out their nuclear reactor.

Wow.

	01-02-2003 20:12									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Eli If. IF. IF the Arabs had something to do with it...

Unlikely. It was 200,000 feet in the air and going 6 times the speed of sound - so it seems unlikely that anyone could have shot it down.

	01-02-2003 20:14									#57
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The parties started in Gaza City.

	01-02-2003 20:14									#58
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I guess we won't know for sure until they recover the pieces and reassemble what they can like in an airplane crash. So it will take months before we know what happened.
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They just mentioned something like that on FNC and the guy on the phone said that is impossible because the friction of the air desintergrates everything. You might get pieces that look like coal.

	01-02-2003 20:17									#59
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Truly a tragedy...

Perhaps this event will FINALLY be the catalyst needed to convince the government to give the NASA boys something closer to proper funding. A story circulated not long ago 'bout NASA people scouring EBAY trying to buy up "junk" computer parts cos....that's what our aging shuttle fleet uses. The time for an upgrade and overhaul is long overdue. We either need to do it, or stay on the ground. The possibilities for exploration are simply too great to ignore (as I'm sure everybody at NASA will agree, even after this horrible tragedy), so staying on the ground is hardly a viable option.



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	01-02-2003 20:18									#60
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No surprise there, Eli.....some more of us Satanic USAers (EDIT: AND an Israli!) just bit the dust....time to party, eh?

*sigh*

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