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I'm currently feeling odd to those reports of "planes" over there... really, no plane could possibly attack a space shuttle, this just can't be an act of terror.

A terrible tragedy

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I agree its a sad event, but its no worse a tragedy (in terms of human life) than a major traffic accident with several fatalities. What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?

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I agree its a sad event, but its no worse a tragedy (in terms of human life) than a major traffic accident with several fatalities. What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?


It what not suppose to happen...

EDIT: Miss worded...

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FNC has the them in the blue suits.

Basicly the speculation is dragging on here so nothing new right now.

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quote:
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I'm currently feeling odd to those reports of "planes" over there... really, no plane could possibly attack a space shuttle, this just can't be an act of terror.

A terrible tragedy


hi ,

the americans have a way ; an F-15 with a special missile for use against sattelites and other high altitude "objects" , .....

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What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?


very little, really .... but it isn't always possible to have that kind of an objective outlook.

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This is a terrible tragedy. I want to extend my sympathies to the Israeli people for their loss. I hope that this accident will not deter Israel from participating in the space program.

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hi ,

Eli , check out our radio

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Did someone say to wait for confirmation of Palistine parties before we condone them?

Why? they are bastards......what kind of sick freaks throw parties when a nation who has protected them in the past loses some of their best?

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QUOTE:
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I agree its a sad event, but its no worse a tragedy (in terms of human life) than a major traffic accident with several fatalities. What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?
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Look at the local news channel and you'll see all the traffic accidents.

This is a rare event, so of course this is going to be on the cable news channels.

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I agree its a sad event, but its no worse a tragedy (in terms of human life) than a major traffic accident with several fatalities. What makes it so much worse as a tragedy?


The huge impact this is going to have on the Space Program...

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Thrawn: They're throwing parties celibrating Americans and an Israeli dieing and I'm the one who's suppose to give it a rest? Why not talk to the Arab party maniacs?
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Because this is a tragic event, if you want to act like a ****ing baby start a thread and shoot your ****ing mouth off there.

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oh yeah, feed the trolls


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This forum, sadly, is going to turn into a Jew VS Arbas fight...

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the americans have a way ; an F-15 with a special missile for use against sattelites and other high altitude "objects" , .....

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It's just a matter of time that some stupid "intelectual" publishes a book saying that the Americans destroyed their own shuttle..

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I am a complete graphical infant. Can anyone give me an Ilan Ramon avatar?

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The huge impact this is going to have on the Space Program...


That has nothing to do with people dying. There will be huge fallout on the space programme, but that is not what most people are refering to as a tragedy.


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Look at the local news channel and you'll see all the traffic accidents.

This is a rare event, so of course this is going to be on the cable news channels


Its definitely newsworthy, but the outpooring of "Its such a tragedy" seems to exaggerate the event, and diminish the tragedies that happen everyday.

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but still...

EDIT: I'm laughing at the pic...

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Its definitely newsworthy, but the outpooring of "Its such a tragedy" seems to exaggerate the event, and diminish the tragedies that happen everyday.



Note how it's very special to all the Jews.

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Given how the Republicans tend to feel about NASA, it is just as likely they use this incident to cut funding further. Rather than saying, "Maybe we need to give them the money to carry out their job," they'll say, "Why should we waste our money on incompetent gubmint bureaucrats?"

I fear for space exploration.

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Its definitely newsworthy, but the outpooring of "Its such a tragedy" seems to exaggerate the event, and diminish the tragedies that happen everyday.
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I would think dying in a space shuttle more tragic then a drunk driver crash.

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(...)I fear for space exploration.


I the USA, my guess?

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hi ,

cnn.com , the crew and individual pics

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Big C - It's tragic because it's not "just" a glorified airplane. It's tragic because it's a symbol. It's a symbol of our ability to leave the planet of our birth and strike out into the unknown vastness of space.

That symbol is gone.

You can't compare that to a traffic fatality.

-=Vel=-

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From the Washington Post webpage:

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Space shuttle Columbia apparently disintegrated in flames over Texas on Saturday minutes before it was to land in Florida. TV video showed what appeared to be falling debris, as NASA declared an emergency and warned residents to beware of falling objects.

Six Americans and Israel's first astronaut were on board.

NASA announced that search and rescue teams were being mobilized in Dallas and Fort Worth areas.

Columbia was at an altitude of 200,700 feet over north-central Texas at a 9 a.m., traveling at 12,500 mph when mission control lost contact and tracking data.

NASA warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous. There were reports of debris seen falling.

Residents of north Texas heard "a big bang" Saturday about the time the space shuttle Columbia disappeared on its way to a landing at Cape Canaveral.

"It was like a car hitting the house or an explosion. It shook that much," said John Ferolito, 60, of Carrolton, north of Dallas.

Gary Hunziker in Plano said he saw the shuttle flying overhead. "I could see two bright objects flying off each side of it," he told The Associated Press. "I just assumed they were chase jets."

"I was getting read to go out and I heard a big bang and the windows shook in the house," Ferolito told The Associated Press. "I was getting ready to go out and I heard a big bang and the windows shook in the house. I thought it was a sonic boom."

Bob Multer of Palestine, Texas, told CNN he saw what looked like a high-flying jet and heard a noise.

"It would be very similar to a tornado, it was very loud and intense," Multer said. "It was loud enough and it was low enough that it shook the building."

In 42 years of human space flight, NASA has never lost a space crew during landing or the ride back to orbit. In 1986, space shuttle Challenger exploded shortly after liftoff.

Security had been tight for the 16-day scientific research mission that included the first Israeli astronaut.

The astronauts had conducted more than 80 experiments on behalf of NASA and the European, Japanese, German and Canadian space agencies, as well as numerous student and commercial investigations. The shuttle did not visit the International Space Station on this trip.

Ilan Ramon, a colonel in Israel's air force and former fighter pilot, became the first man from his country to fly in space, and his presence resulted in an increase in security, not only for Columbia's Jan. 16 launch, but also for its landing.

On launch day, a piece of insulating foam on the external fuel tank came off during liftoff and was believed to have struck the left wing of the shuttle.

Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission Control, had assured reporters Friday that engineers had concluded that any damage to the wing was considered minor and posed no safety hazard.

Columbia is NASA's oldest shuttle and first flew in 1981.

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QUOTE:
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Because this is a tragic event, if you want to act like a ****ing baby start a thread and shoot your ****ing mouth off there.


I suggest you are the one acting like a baby. Look at your posts, especially, the last one. Talk about acting like an infant...

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Need something more than the goddamn MS Paint, oh well.

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Here is a bit from a story that ran just after Columbia's launch two weeks ago:

" The possibility of a catastrophic (Challenger-esque) failure of a space shuttle is about one in 125. That is a lot better than it used to be, but still a long way from a sure bet.

Columbia is flying the 113th mission in space shuttle history. And so far there has been only one "Criticality-One" failure, 17 years ago this month. You do the rest of the math. "

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/...ttle/index.html

 
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