04-02-2003 01:56									#1
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not the newest theme, i know. Cold War Crisis will be released within the next 4-5 days.

featuring: (1) ussr, usa, nato, yugoslavia, united arab republic, state of israel, arab league + a lot of "neutral cities" ; (2) all this on the map nemo used for his "cruel sea" scenario and (3) a lot of the cold war units moretheless in nemo-style.

just to give you a first impression (self-explaining. the good/bad guys [depends on youor point of view ])

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	04-02-2003 03:08									#2
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to keep thing´s goin´ .... the Heartland

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	04-02-2003 03:18									#3
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You say 'cold war', Jim. What dates would that be?

	04-02-2003 03:31									#4
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tell us a bit more about the scenario,
is just a war scenario or we´ll also have to launch a space ship?

	04-02-2003 03:58									#5
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I think it'd be cool if one way to win was the apollo mission, but that might only be possible in ToT

	04-02-2003 04:33									#6
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BTW Cruel Sea was made by Case not Nemo.

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i apologise for my mistake crediting nemo for something case has done.

	04-02-2003 14:12									#8
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ok, mainly focused on the area from north america to the middle east with 2 main factions (as you may have guessed .... ): the Soviet Bloc and USA/NATO. then there are some minor powers like Yugoslavia with its own communism and Israel, both depending on the goodwill of both main powers last but not least the muslim world is also divided into two minor powers: the United Arab Republic consisting of Egypt and Syria und the Arab League, reaching from Mauretania in the west to Oman in the east.

the techs, well, let´s say i borrowed them from academia´s Iron Curtain scenario

the units i took from some other creators (for example Danny, Evilcat, Nemo, Fairline; the unit credits will be included in the release version) but are basically the same as in academia´s Iron Curtain (with some minor adjustments (e.g. the Electric Lightning instead of the Mirage III)

well, to make you even more hungrier, another screenshot showing the middle east

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	04-02-2003 14:44									#9
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and the cities i will use. the first three sity styles are taken from my "World Today" scenario, the 4th one i edited 2 days ago. hope you like it.

the airbases are also a bit modified. i took ´em from Nemo´s "Blitz" scenario.

what do you think about?!

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	04-02-2003 14:44									#10
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and at least the flags. all made by me.

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	04-02-2003 17:16									#11
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I'm pretty sure the RR between Amman and Medina hasn't worked since 1919 or so.

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looks good so far Jim. Just to be picky, isn't downtown Montreal on the North bank of the St Laurence?

	04-02-2003 18:08									#13
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thanks for your advice fairline. i´ll move montreal a bit to the north. in the meantime you can watch the US Navy observing the withdrawal of the soviet MRBMs from Cuba.

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	04-02-2003 18:16									#14
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Looks cool Jim!
But want Volgograd still called Stalingrad back in the Cold War? (refering to second screenshot)

	04-02-2003 18:25									#15
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nope. as far as i know Stalin´s personal cult was abandoned 1956 at the XXth Communist Party Congress by Nikita Krushchev and all the (I don´t know the exact number) I guess 5-10 cities in the USSR bearing Stalin´s name were renamed.

	04-02-2003 20:57									#16
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are there going to be nukes??

	04-02-2003 23:04									#17
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Cool! A competitor to my "Iron Curtain" scenario

quote: the techs, well, let´s say i borrowed them from academia´s Iron Curtain scenario

Don´t worry Jim
The techs aren´t mine! I also borrowed them from great scenarios like Jason Molthan´s Coldwar X; Andrew Livings´ Atomic Age and Crisis of the New World Order; Case´s Raging Dragon

quote: ok, mainly focused on the area from north america to the middle east with 2 main factions (as you may have guessed .... ): the Soviet Bloc and USA/NATO. then there are some minor powers like Yugoslavia with its own communism and Israel, both depending on the goodwill of both main powers last but not least the muslim world is also divided into two minor powers: the United Arab Republic consisting of Egypt and Syria und the Arab League, reaching from Mauretania in the west to Oman in the east.

Not South Hemisphere in this scenario?

	04-02-2003 23:07									#18
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BTW, count me in for a future PBEM playtest

	04-02-2003 23:30									#19
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BTW Academia, you signed up to playtest my Atomic Age modpack and I'm still waiting for feedback. I certainly wouldn't want to think you only did this to rip off my hard work.

	04-02-2003 23:36									#20
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United Arab Republic...Soviet withdrawal from Cuba...is this 1963?

	05-02-2003 00:06									#21
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give the man some reward, yep. it should kick off after the cuban missile crisis that there are more than enough tensions between east and west.

to academia:

quote: BTW, count me in for a future PBEM playtest

no problem. i think i´ll do it till tomorrow.

	05-02-2003 00:07									#22
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btw, later today here will be addtional info

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quote: BTW Academia, you signed up to playtest my Atomic Age modpack and I'm still waiting for feedback. I certainly wouldn't want to think you only did this to rip off my hard work.

When? Where?
Atomic Age modpack? I only know your scenario...
Could you post a link to that thread, please? I can´t remember that i signed up...

	05-02-2003 03:17									#24
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Very nice. Didn't mean to sound harsh before. Also you might want to rearrange the shields so they aren't hidden by the units.

	05-02-2003 03:27									#25
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my bad, I've found out Stalingrad was actualy renamed in 1961

	05-02-2003 03:48									#26
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i´m that lucky that my scenario kicks off at the end of 1962.

anyway. the units i will use in the v0.9 (pbem playtest which will start tomorrow or the day after tomorrow in the pbem section. anyone interested in something like this shall pay attention to the pbem sectio0n)

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	05-02-2003 04:08									#27
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Jim, you should have used the Canberra graphic rather than the B57 for Nato - B57s were only used by the US. Also, why did you put a lid on my ZSU-57?

And one more thing. How about leaving the designers initials on their graphics.

Apart from mine, there are units by BeBro, Jimmywax, Dannyevilcat, CurtSibling, Techumseh.. anyone else I've missed there?

	05-02-2003 06:27									#28
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Can I make a suggestion to differentiate between ICBMs and SLBMs? Remove the "destroyed after attacking" flag from the former. It will get destroyed in the blast anyway, and the game treats the unit like a plane (meaning subs can't carry them).

	05-02-2003 06:34									#29
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	05-02-2003 07:19									#30
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When you do release your PBEM test, please make it a public release!

BTW looks great. Can't wait to try it out.