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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
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Israeli court sentences Palestinian to 27 years for training with al-Qaida
EREZ, Gaza Strip (AP) - An Israeli military court sentenced a Palestinian man to 27 years in jail on Monday for training with Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network and planning to carry out attacks against Israelis.
The case of Nabil Okal, 29, marked the first time Israel has convicted a Palestinian of having ties to al-Qaida, the Israeli military said. Other Palestinians who allegedly worked with the network have been arrested but not yet indicted. As a member of the Islamic militant group Hamas operating in the Gaza Strip, Okal travelled to Afghanistan in 1998 where he met a deputy of bin Laden, and attended a training camp, according to the indictment.
At the camp, Okal learned how to make bombs, including those with chemical substances. He was arrested in June 2000 in the Gaza Strip on his way back to Afghanistan to receive more training, the indictment said.
Okal's lawyer, Tamim Younis, said his client denies all the Israeli allegations.
Okal sat quietly in the courtroom in a brown prison uniform with a green wool hat, listening as the sentence was read aloud in Hebrew and translated to him in Arabic.
Military prosecutor Capt. Ronen Shor told reporters that Okal never joined al-Qaida, but he trained with the group with the intent of bombing Israeli targets.
After the training in Afghanistan, Okal "came back to form and set up a military force to make military actions against Israeli targets here in the Gaza Strip and also here in Israel," Shor said.
Prosecutors did not link Okal to any attacks that were actually carried out.
Okal's activities abroad began in 1997 when he travelled from his birthplace, the Jebaliya refugee camp in the Gaza Strip, to Pakistan to study Islam, according to the indictment. Okal received weapons training there, then travelled to Afghanistan.
In Kabul, Okal met bin Laden deputy Abu Hamza, the indictment said. After Okal passed a security check, he went to the eastern Afghan town of Jalalabad where he participated in a monthlong training camp.
Upon his return, Okal met in 2000 with the Hamas spiritual leader in the Gaza Strip, Sheik Ahmed Yassin. Okal and another suspect in Israeli custody, Mahmed Abu Libdeh, received Yassin's blessing and $5,000 US to travel to Afghanistan for more training.
Hamas leaders have denied that they sent Palestinians to Afghanistan to receive weapons training.
Okal received a permit from Israel to travel to Jordan, purportedly for medical treatments, the indictment said. But when Okal tried to pass into Egypt from the Gaza Strip, he was arrested.
Younis, the defence lawyer, said the severity of the sentence reflects a hardened opinion in Israel and the world on such subjects since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the United States.
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TA Court: Arafat must pay Egged NIS 52M for lost revenues
By Zvi Harel, Haaretz Correspondent
The Tel Aviv District Court on Monday ruled that Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat must pay a sum of NIS 52 million to the Egged bus cooperative, because of the company's lost revenues during one year of the current intifada. According to the decision, Arafat must also pay Egged's legal expenses, amounting to NIS 100,000. Judge Adi Azar's verdict was issued without having received Arafat's written defense statement.
Three months ago, Egged filed a suit against the PA, the Palestinian Council, and Arafat on grounds of decreased revenues due to terror attacks and suicide bombings on public buses. According to the suit, the terror attacks led to major financial losses for Egged, because the public refrained from taking public buses due to fears of attacks.
According to statistics presented in the suit, 53 attacks were carried out against Egged buses since the outbreak of the current intifada - 20 of them suicide bombings - in which 200 people were killed. The claim states that during that same period, the number of bus passengers decreased by 15-20 percent, which Egged said was a direct result of the attacks.
In addition to the suit, Egged filed a request for a lien on PA funds held by the state of Israel. The court agreed to the request, and issued a lien of the PA's value-added tax monies. The PA filed a written defense in this regard, in which it asked for a reversal of the lien
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:25
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Palestinian Authority resumes efforts to prevent
Qassam launches in Gaza
By Amos Harel
For the first time in many months, Israeli intelligence officials say they are seeing signs that the Palestinians are taking steps against terrorist groups. In the last two weeks, a Palestinian Qassam rocket cell was arrested in Gaza, and PA security groups have disrupted the activity of several other cells in Gaza.
Although there is large measure of skepticism in the defense establishment about this being a trend, they see a connection between these efforts and other developments, including the Cairo talks for a Palestinian cease-fire and the Israeli elections.
According to reports from Gaza, at least one cell was arrested by the Gaza Preventive Security Forces, headed by Rashid Abu Shbak. There have been attempts to disrupt Qassam rocket-fire from various parts of the Gaza Strip, and security force troops have been deployed in those areas where the rockets have been fired.
There have also been reports of a number of occasions when Palestinian security officials helped reveal hidden bombs.
Apparently, the explanation for the Palestinian activity is connected to the IDF's widening efforts against the production of the rockets and mortars. In recent months, the IDF has conducted dozens of raids against the tool and die workshops where the rockets and mortars are made deep inside Palestinian towns and cities, often causing much damage to the environs around those workshops.
Dozens of mostly armed Palestinians have been killed as they tried to rebuff Israeli incursions.
The Palestinian Authority fears that the continuing IDF incursions will eventually smash what remains of the PA's government in the Gaza Strip, and further damage the status of the Palestinian security apparatus in the Strip.
The Cairo talks are also part of the background to the change in the PA approach to the terrorist activity in Gaza. So far, the Cairo talks have been an Egyptian effort to reach a pan-Palestinian agreement on an end to attacks inside Israel (More exactly: a year long shuada - cease fire, on attacks inside the green line (the 67' borders) - Siro)- and the talks have so far failed. There is enormous Egyptian pressure on the PA to start meeting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's demands. The PA is blaming the Hamas for the failure of the talks so far, and now the Palestinians are trying to lasso the Saudis into applying pressure on Hamas to reduce the number of attacks.
There also were efforts by some PA leaders to end the attacks before the elections, in the hope it would influence the vote ([i]Arafat issued a call to end attacks inside Israel "until the nearing elections" as he said in a recorded interview[i] - Siro). But even after the elections there is a trend of declining numbers of rocket attacks. "We're experienced with the Palestinian efforts. We need to see a much more serious, continuing effort to be convinced that something serious is changing," said defense establishment sources.
And the IDF does not expect that to happen. There are many alerts based on intelligence about planned attacks. Yesterday, the Wadi Ara area was on high alert after reports that a terrorist managed to cross into the country. The alert was lifted in the mid-afternoon.
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Zevico
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Melbourne
Apr 2002
time: 15:25
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Gnu, Israel has equal rights regardless of race, religion, etc. Read its declaration of independence before you claim otherwise. Ravagnon, "Egged" is a bus company in Israel.
Wernazuma, when Arafat says a "million martyrs to jerusalem" does this mean he is responsible for terrorism? No. But when he says it as the head of the PA, it is. Considering the fact that he funds one of the terrorist groups and tolerates the rest, I would say he is at least partially responsible. That and the fact that he released every single terrorist in his prisons on the first day of the intifada, basically giving a green light and a pat on the back to terrorists do to their stuff. In addition, Israel did not sue Arafat. The "Egged" bus company did, because there was a marked decrease in the amount of people going on their buses since the beginning of the intifada.
Last edited by Zevico on 08-02-2003 at 19:06
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:25
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Originally posted by CyberGnu
BTW, why aren't the egged people suing Sharon? He is the main character in the way of peace...
Of course, that would require Israelis taking an honest look at the conflict... Won't happen during our lifetime, I'm assuming. |
hi ,
gnu , learn your facts , we have a better honest look at the conflict then you , ... at least we dont ignore facts like some , .....
as for Sharon , its people like you who are standing in the way of peace , ......
bye
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
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I agree, fully. I am fairly sure that the court could deal with that, heck, he let a suspect nazi go, because of supposed lack of evidence.
but, it puts the court system as an immideate suspect of bias.
On the other hand, what could they do? I don't think they can dismiss a case in a civil lawsuit, and even if they could, they'll enter the political debate, and that's the last thing they want to do.
So they decided to agree on the direct causes of the damage, without getting into the reasons on the causes. Egged are suing the PA for the economical damage that was caused to the company, by the non-prevention of attacks from their territory, not for being terrorists.
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Sirotnikov
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<--- Yes, It's a "kitty" in a boot.
Feb 2000
time: 07:25
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If that's the case (non-prevention as opposed to overt act) then the PA has an excellent case for countersuing the Israeli government for limiting their ability to prevent attacks...
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completely and utterly false -
Their non-prevention goes back way before Israel first incurred into Palestinian territory for the first time in the middle of 2001.
Not only have they not prevent, but they also freed known Hamas and Jihad members from prison, and set up their own, secular terrorist organization - the tanzim with it's "al-aqsa brigades" wing. The tanzim is a military wing of fatah. Fatah is the party lead by Arafat.
As for this case being "illegal" or "biased", then it is again nonsense.
Since Israel is the occupier of the territories in question, the legal system it upholds applies there. The Palestinians are equally able to appeal to the High Court of Justice, and infact do so on a daily basis.
More than a few home destructions were over ruled by the Israeli high court after Palestinains appealed. Several military practices were ordered changed.
And a year ago, several Palestinian civilians have won a case of compensations from the State of Israel , for injuries they recieved due to military actions taken by IDF.
What does this mean? This means that there's a case for Palestinian civilians to recieve compensations for IDF actions which go astray.
Infact, until some time ago, Israel would actually supply compensations to relatives of knwon terrorists that Israel killed. Since it is unreasonable to provide a profit for those who commit terror, this policy was stopped.
PS - is there anyone here still taking gnu seriously except panag?
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000
time: 07:25
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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
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If that's the case (non-prevention as opposed to overt act) then the PA has an excellent case for countersuing the Israeli government for limiting their ability to prevent attacks...
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completely and utterly false -
Their non-prevention goes back way before Israel first incurred into Palestinian territory for the first time in the middle of 2001.
Not only have they not prevent, but they also freed known Hamas and Jihad members from prison, and set up their own, secular terrorist organization - the tanzim with it's "al-aqsa brigades" wing. The tanzim is a military wing of fatah. Fatah is the party lead by Arafat.
As for this case being "illegal" or "biased", then it is again nonsense.
Since Israel is the occupier of the territories in question, the legal system it upholds applies there. The Palestinians are equally able to appeal to the High Court of Justice, and infact do so on a daily basis.
More than a few home destructions were over ruled by the Israeli high court after Palestinains appealed. Several military practices were ordered changed.
And a year ago, several Palestinian civilians have won a case of compensations from the State of Israel , for injuries they recieved due to military actions taken by IDF.
What does this mean? This means that there's a case for Palestinian civilians to recieve compensations for IDF actions which go astray.
Infact, until some time ago, Israel would actually supply compensations to relatives of knwon terrorists that Israel killed. Since it is unreasonable to provide a profit for those who commit terror, this policy was stopped.
PS - is there anyone here still taking gnu seriously except panag? |
hi ,
last line > 
have a nice day
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04-02-2003 07:55
Darn.
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