07-02-2003 00:26									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia TAMERLIN! YOU SMOKED MARIJUANA!? I'M SHOCKED!!

No need to use a past tense...

quote: ...it's in the interests of rugby in general that we don't have stoned players on the field. It's bad enough looking at the ugly mugs of the likes of Anton Oliver without them having red eyes too!

I agree, but I am pretty convinced Peter De Villiers has not taken any drug (at least a forbidden one) before a game, I would rather think he has put his nose at the wrong place during a party.

	07-02-2003 01:39									#32
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Read Imanol. Well, I guess he'll probably keep his mouth shut after Laporte tells him what he thinks of it.
Abour de Villiers, I think he probably took the drugs at some party, not knowing exactly what it was. I mean, if you have drunk a few pints of beer, it is totally plausible that you should believe it fun to sniff some sugar (or some bicarbonate). Isn't it?
That's why I only drink that much after matches. It's no good to be sick the day after. You could miss the match on TV if you haven't woken in the afternoon.

	07-02-2003 02:04									#33
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Yes but I doubt you are regularly controlled in order to detect some dope in your body.

	07-02-2003 02:05									#34
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It's all about perspective Tamerlin. Had those comments been made in reverse by an English player you may have labelled them racist perhaps?

And yes De Villiers has the right passport. So does Catt. It doesn't alter where either of them were born to be honest.

	07-02-2003 02:07									#35
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On the drug issue - we need consistency.

Dallaglio was not banned so neither should this player be. Thats my view.

	07-02-2003 02:08									#36
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And on the plus side Califano has been drafted in. From what I have seen of him he isn't in the same league.

Famous last words?

And now gents I am going home - good night!

	07-02-2003 02:11									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Havak It's all about perspective Tamerlin. Had those comments been made in reverse by an English player you may have labelled them racist perhaps?

I am not paying much attention to the declarations of the players whatever their country but what has said Imanol is really stupid and is rather xenophobic rather than racist. But he should have shut his mouth anyway.

quote: And yes De Villiers has the right passport. So does Catt. It doesn't alter where either of them were born to be honest.

I have already said I am not against the fact the players are representing their federation and not their country though I must admit there are some abuses. This is the kind of peculiarity that makes Rugby what it is.

	07-02-2003 02:13									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Havak And now gents I am going home - good night!

See you tomorrow!

	07-02-2003 02:18									#39
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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare Read Imanol. Well, I guess he'll probably keep his mouth shut after Laporte tells him what he thinks of it. Abour de Villiers, I think he probably took the drugs at some party, not knowing exactly what it was. I mean, if you have drunk a few pints of beer, it is totally plausible that you should believe it fun to sniff some sugar (or some bicarbonate). Isn't it?

Of course, it's a South African tradition he was showing his new French buddies isn't it?

	07-02-2003 02:22									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Of course, it's a South African tradition he was showing his new French buddies isn't it?

Waow, I didn't knew that.

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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia NSW beat the Chiefs 35-31 in a Super 12 trial yesterday, did you get to see any of it Finbar? There was no coverage over here at all.

No, there was no coverage of the game. Just the press reports this morning. NSW came from 12-14 behind at half time. Most interest here was in Lote Tuquiri's rugby debut - leaving aside the 7s last week - on the wing. It's said that he showed good rugby nouse and skills in a game that, apparently, didn't give the wingers a lot of opportunity.

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quote: Originally posted by Havak That one I can't say off the top of my head. Red and white hoops would have been Gloucester but quarters is no top English side certainly. Might be celtic.

Yeah, it had a sort of medieval look to it.

	07-02-2003 14:05									#43
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quote: But he should have shut his mouth anyway.

Actually Tamerlin it is quite re-assuring to see you have your own equivalent of a Gregan, Healey or Mehrtens.

quote: This is the kind of peculiarity that makes Rugby what it is.

The other great thing about rugger is that we can all hold different views on things like this and yet still talk amicably about the beautiful game?

quote: See you tomorrow!

Cheers! And here I am as promised…

Was Caligastia cracking a joke or was it some kind of Bok party trick the lad was taking part it?

quote: Yeah, it had a sort of medieval look to it.

It does ring a bell actually Finbar – but I can’t quite place it. It will come to me I’m sure.

Bristol at home tomorrow for us.

A team in trouble as it happens. Owner bailing at the end of the season and all the talent looking to parachute. They will probably beat us.

	07-02-2003 14:15									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia I agree that it's a bit silly that players are penalized for taking drugs that don't enhance their performance,

There are probably ways to interpret the laws such that such drugs do enhance performance - As pain-killers, stimulants, de-fatiguers and the like...

quote: without them having red eyes too!

I quite agree. Black eyes look soo much better.

	07-02-2003 14:18									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin No need to use a past tense...

I would never have guessed from the unbiased, concise, lucid nature of your posts.

*Runs before anybody can post anything about pots, kettles and whatnots*

[Edit: Forgot ]

	07-02-2003 14:48									#46
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Mmmmm. Looks like ravagon's back with his Bargain Basement Dirt Cheap Only Post On Friday Arvo ISP.

	07-02-2003 14:53									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Gregan, Healey or Mehrtens.

Pick the odd one out. And hue doesn't enter into it.

quote: The other great thing about rugger is that we can all hold different views on things like this and yet still talk amicably about the beautiful game?

quote: Cheers! And here I am as promised…

And very damn early too! Couldn't sleep?

quote: Was Caligastia cracking a joke or was it some kind of Bok party trick the lad was taking part it?

If it is some kind of party trick, it beats the hell out of "necklacing".

	07-02-2003 15:43									#48
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quote: Pick the odd one out. And hue doesn't enter into it.

Quite right. Austin is nowhere near as bad as the other two. Thanks for pointing it out.

And I didn’t even mention Burke.

quote: And very damn early too! Couldn't sleep?

The boss wants us to look at ways of cutting down such unproductive time as ‘sleep’.

My point about amicable was cleary aimed at the true believers from the NH.

	07-02-2003 18:22									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Actually Tamerlin it is quite re-assuring to see you have your own equivalent of a Gregan, Healey or Mehrtens.

You are exagerating, Imanol must train himself and practice hard if he wants to reach the ankle of one of those no-brainers. In spite of a very good start, Imanol is just beginning...

quote: The other great thing about rugger is that we can all hold different views on things like this and yet still talk amicably about the beautiful game?

Yep!

I would have been sorry if this had not been the case.

quote: A team in trouble as it happens. Owner bailing at the end of the season and all the talent looking to parachute. They will probably beat us.

Do you think they are so desperate they will use a "do or die" tactic?

	07-02-2003 18:26									#50
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By the way Havak, nice sig!

	07-02-2003 19:09									#51
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You have made my day - I was hoping you would register the sig.

We have never got on well with Bristol. There is a history of 'needle'.

Those arrogant upstarts used to use letters not numbers in the same way we did - but they got it the wrong way round. I believe their number 8 was 'A' when everyone knows that should be the loose head.

In case Vulture is around this is why the Tigers front row is called the ABC club by the way - it does not reflect on their literacy.

	07-02-2003 19:34									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Havak In case Vulture is around this is why the Tigers front row is called the ABC club by the way - it does not reflect on their literacy.

It woud rather suggest they are unable to memorize the alphabet past "C".

	07-02-2003 19:38									#53
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I will let you voice that suggestion to them I think.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar No, there was no coverage of the game. Just the press reports this morning. NSW came from 12-14 behind at half time. Most interest here was in Lote Tuquiri's rugby debut - leaving aside the 7s last week - on the wing. It's said that he showed good rugby nouse and skills in a game that, apparently, didn't give the wingers a lot of opportunity.

Hm...well I would rate the Chiefs as the worst NZ Super 12 team, so it's a bit of a disappointing result for NSW fans I would think. I suppose if you factor in the home turf advantage for the Chiefs it's not too bad though.

	07-02-2003 19:45									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Was Caligastia cracking a joke or was it some kind of Bok party trick the lad was taking part it?

No, I was just cracking a joke.

	07-02-2003 21:03									#56
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Thanks for clearing that up.

	07-02-2003 21:31									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Havak I will let you voice that suggestion to them I think.

"Franck, you know me... I was joking...."

THUMP!

I tolb you vis man hab a hot tember... ouch! Aïe!

	07-02-2003 21:35									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Thanks for clearing that up.

Next time I'll joke about the Australian rugby team having a secret handshake involving sodomy.

"Really? Is that true or are you just joking?"

	08-02-2003 00:02									#59
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Careful - I might believe that one.

Nice slapstick sketch there Tamerlin.

	08-02-2003 05:55									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Hm...well I would rate the Chiefs as the worst NZ Super 12 team, so it's a bit of a disappointing result for NSW fans I would think. I suppose if you factor in the home turf advantage for the Chiefs it's not too bad though.

It was a trial match in every sense of the word. Players were rotated, tested in different positions. The plan was to give Matt Rogers a try at 5/8. I don't know whether it happened or not. The interesting Waratahs' trial match will be the next one -v- the Crusaders at Newcastle (north of Sydney).