11-02-2003 09:25									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Bearcat Mind you they were all different games

Turn it up, Bearcat, I'm creating an image for you! Don't undermine it!

	11-02-2003 10:18									#92
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The Ultimate Loose Forward?

	11-02-2003 13:38									#93
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quote: Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 5 days...

Pure wishful thinking?

	11-02-2003 17:55									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Pure wishful thinking?

Good omens!


Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 5 days...

	11-02-2003 18:53									#95
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Here is the French team that will end England's invicibility record at Twickenham:

Califano - Ibanez - Crenca
Pelous - Brouzet
Betsen - Magne - Harinordoquy

Galthié - Merceron

Rougerie - Traille - Garbajosa - Clerc

Poitrenaud


Italicized names are players from the Stade Toulousain

	11-02-2003 19:41									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 6 days...

As much as I would love to see the game, I don't know if I want to pay the $20 cover charge I will have to pay to see it at the pub. It seems that there will no longer be any coverage of NH games on Fox Sports World. I remember them covering the 6 nations in the past, so I guess they must have given up the rights or something...

At least they still show the Super 12 and Tri-nations.

	11-02-2003 19:48									#97
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia At least they still show the Super 12 and Tri-nations.

You mean they don't broadcast the major competitions anymore...

	11-02-2003 19:56									#98
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin You mean they don't broadcast the major competitions anymore...

Yes they do, it's the ones that nobody cares about that are being dropped.

	11-02-2003 19:59									#99
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Yes they do, it's the ones that nobody cares about that are being dropped.

	11-02-2003 20:04									#100
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Seriously, I wish they were showing those games. You can never get too much rugby (although my wife might disagree ).

	11-02-2003 20:20									#101
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The Defenders of Fortress Twickenham.

aka the (soon to be) breakers of French hearts.

J Robinson (Sale Sharks); D Luger (Harlequins), W Greenwood (Harlequins), C Hodgson (Sale Sharks), B Cohen (Northampton); J Wilkinson (Newcastle), M Dawson (Northampton); J Leonard (Harlequins), S Thompson (Northampton), J White (Bristol Shoguns), M Johnson (Leicester, capt), B Kay (Leicester), L Moody (Leicester), N Back (Leicester), R Hill (Saracens).

Replacements: M Regan (Leeds), G Rowntree (Leicester), D Grewcock (Bath), L Dallaglio (Wasps), A Gomarsall (Gloucester), P Christophers (Bristol Shoguns), J Simpson-Daniel (Gloucester).

Please note that core of Tigers in the pack.

	12-02-2003 10:50									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia It seems that there will no longer be any coverage of NH games on Fox Sports World. I remember them covering the 6 nations in the past, so I guess they must have given up the rights or something...

I checked the FoxSports guide here. No 6 Nations! Not even replays! The weekly rugby show "Inside Rugby" starts next week so I imagine I will have to make do with the excerpts they show. I might even have to tune into the BBC radio coverage on the BBC website.

BTW, Cal, for the Waratahs -v- Crusaders trial match tonight, the bulk of the Crusaders pack - the big guns - along with Justin Marshall will start on the bench. The Waratahs are breaking up the game into quarters and trying various hookers, half backs and 5/8s for 20 minutes each. The result seems unimportant.

	12-02-2003 15:55									#103
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Ah Super 12 is warming up for the off is it?

You would have to back the Crusaders whatever their composition - the best team in the SH by a country mile.

they might even manage to avoid relegation from the French and English top leagues.

A bit of playful banter there Caligastia if you were wondering But with a serious point behind it too as our Leagues have French and British Isles referees and with either no Super 12 side would win anything.

The same is true in reverse of course. Until we can drag your refs up to standard.

Let me save time here:

Finbar: *groan*

?

	12-02-2003 16:53									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Ah Super 12 is warming up for the off is it?

Literally. It was 30 C and humid here today. Tonight it's 25 C and humid. And they're playing rugby in it. And you can about 5 degrees for Brisbane. And the S12 season proper kicks off within 2 weeks. Someone's going to die in one of the games played here.

	12-02-2003 16:56									#105
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That is truly ludicrous - you just cannot play in those conditions!

	12-02-2003 17:48									#106
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BTW Finbar, I have not found a MP version of Civ2, I am still checking with my friends but I am not very optimistic.


Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 3 days...

	12-02-2003 18:47									#107
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A weak excuse for getting that flawed countdown on screen again Tamerlin?

I promise if we lose I will not use the excuse that it's a development squad (though it clearly is with a 'virgin' centre and a just-fit Luger back in the starting line up).

	12-02-2003 19:12									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Havak A weak excuse for getting that flawed countdown on screen again Tamerlin?

My moto is "never miss an occasion to say/write something stupid".

quote: I promise if we lose I will not use the excuse that it's a development squad (though it clearly is with a 'virgin' centre and a just-fit Luger back in the starting line up).

And...

Countdown until the end of England's invincibility record at Twickenham: 3 days...

	12-02-2003 19:42									#109
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quote: Originally posted by finbar I checked the FoxSports guide here. No 6 Nations! Not even replays! The weekly rugby show "Inside Rugby" starts next week so I imagine I will have to make do with the excerpts they show. I might even have to tune into the BBC radio coverage on the BBC website.

I might have to make do with whatever they show on Sky Sports News - a sports news show they have on Fox Sports World.

quote: BTW, Cal, for the Waratahs -v- Crusaders trial match tonight, the bulk of the Crusaders pack - the big guns - along with Justin Marshall will start on the bench. The Waratahs are breaking up the game into quarters and trying various hookers, half backs and 5/8s for 20 minutes each. The result seems unimportant.

Heh, yes but that doesn't stop speculation does it?

Have a look at what I read on rugbyheaven yesterday regarding the Blue's trial:

quote: The Blues beat the Brumbies last Friday, wrapping up an impressive pre-season which has prompted bookmakers to shorten their odds for the Super 12 championship.

What do you think of that site's new look BTW? I think it's awful, it looks like a Brumbies jersey.

	12-02-2003 19:42									#110
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Apparently the press gave Woodward a hard time about France yesterday - and in particular the way they were named as IRB team of the year and the emphatic way the outplayed England in Paris (there words not mine - I thought the scores were fairly close).

He eventually had the following to say:

"It was England's worst performance of the year by a long way," he said.

"While I don't think that we helped ourselves, we lost fair and square.

"I thought that France played outstandingly well, and they played outstandingly well against Jonny Wilkinson.

"But we won't be caught this time. We are a lot better prepared this time, so we will see what happens on Saturday.

"We have got to go out and attack France in every passage of play - we are not going there to make up the numbers."


All in all Tamerlin I think he means - Game On!!

	12-02-2003 19:49									#111
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Ah Super 12 is warming up for the off is it? You would have to back the Crusaders whatever their composition - the best team in the SH by a country mile.

So they would have beaten England last year then?

quote: they might even manage to avoid relegation from the French and English top leagues.

Pure speculation is fun isn't it...

quote: A bit of playful banter there Caligastia if you were wondering But with a serious point behind it too as our Leagues have French and British Isles referees and with either no Super 12 side would win anything.

Pity we can't test your theories eh? Shall we just assume they are completely accurate until then?

	12-02-2003 20:23									#112
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quote: So they would have beaten England last year then?

Good lord no. Only France have beaten England in the last 18 months. Apparently an NZ ‘C’ team came close though?

quote: Pure speculation is fun isn't it...

You betcha.

quote: Pity we can't test your theories eh? Shall we just assume they are completely accurate until then?

It’s what I always do.

This year Canterbury would have to face Glaws anyway and where is the challenge in that – a walkover for you.

I had a quick look at Planet Rugby's pundit picks for the six nations - one pundit from each country involved picked their final table. Even the french judge put England top.

I didn't include the link so as not to upset Tamerlin.

	12-02-2003 20:33									#113
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Good lord no. Only France have beaten England in the last 18 months. Apparently an NZ ‘C’ team came close though?

Wait a minute...you said they are the best team in the SH by a country mile...that means they are better than the All Black team that lost by a narrow margin to England, and if they are better by "a country mile", then they should easily be able to put 15+ points on England.

quote: I had a quick look at Planet Rugby's pundit picks for the six nations - one pundit from each country involved picked their final table. Even the french judge put England top. I didn't include the link so as not to upset Tamerlin.

If England win it will be good because they will go into the RWC brimming with overconfidence - and be brought down to earth in a hurry, but if they lose they will go into the RWC filled with self-doubt and pesimism.

It's a win-win situation!

	12-02-2003 20:49									#114
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It's hard to fault your logic in some ways.

	12-02-2003 21:34									#116
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quote: Originally posted by Havak I didn't include the link so as not to upset Tamerlin.

Don't you remember France always wins when everyone expects the french players to lose?

Ask Caligastia!

	13-02-2003 03:39									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia I might have to make do with whatever they show on Sky Sports News - a sports news show they have on Fox Sports World.

At least we get a dedicated rugby show on FoxSports, one hour a week. It's pretty comprehensive.

quote: What do you think of that site's new look BTW? I think it's awful, it looks like a Brumbies jersey.

I haven't checked it our recently. I'll have a look. I think the site is run by the Sydney Morning Herald or someone closely allied.

Edit. I just checked it out. It actually looks like a Brisbane Broncos - a L***** team - jersey.

Last night's Crusaders -v- Waratahs trial match sounds like it would have been worth seeing for entertainment value alone. Waratahs came from 0-26 down to lose 40-41 to a kick on the hooter.

	13-02-2003 04:03									#119
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin BTW Finbar, I have not found a MP version of Civ2, I am still checking with my friends but I am not very optimistic.

You'd probably find it in the discounted bin in a shop that sells computer games. I have the Mac version, which was hard to get even when it was first released. I'd lost the CD, so I was faced with not being able to load the game onto my new computer. Lo and behold, I found a copy of the Mac version on the shelf where I bought the computer! Must've been the only one in the country! You could be just as lucky!

	13-02-2003 07:01									#120
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quote: Originally posted by finbar You'd probably find it in the discounted bin in a shop that sells computer games.

This is exactly where I have tried to find it but it seems hopeless. I will have a look from time to time...