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Egypt to Kyiv: Get out of Libya. We do not want it but it will remain independent. Either that or we will have to go to war with you.

Yugoslavian forces have beaten back the first Kyivan invaders, but have achieved no decisive victories. Yugoslavia has instituted a draft of almost all men from 17 to 26.

Yugoslavia to Russia (SECRET): Will you help us against the evil imperialist Kyivans?
Yugoslavia to Baltic League (SECRET): These Kyivans are no better than their Russian cousins. We urge you to help us.
Baltic League to Yugoslavia (SECRET): We might,,,but we won't decide until later.
Yugoslavia to Germany: Not only does Kyiv refuse to accept the Wiennese people's wish to join you, they also attack your friend without provocation.

Greece to Kyiv: We would greatly appreciate it if you stopped your invasion of Yugoslavia and resolved the Wien crisis without a huge war.

Turkey to Kyiv: We may not help you in your war, but rest assured that we will not attack you.

Anarchy and civil war have broken out in India after it was recently granted independence as a result of the plebiscite. Some of the fighting has oozed across the border into Pakistan, where Indian independence triggered a new wave of riots.

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To London Conference: We would consider the Saudi proposal, though we would much rather have Great Britain in control of Jewish Isreal. Kyiv is now an aggressor in the region, and we should not allow Jewish Palestine to become a flashpoint in a foreign war.

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Kyiv to Egypt:

we are preparing to move out should you find that you absolutely cannot tolerate our presence. However, we urge you to reconsider. We can bring order to the volatile Libya, promoting stability for the entire region.

Kyiv to Greece:

eh, we'll stop when Yugoslavia returns our land. There people in those areas were free to stay or go, and if they hadn't responded to legitimate action with violent force we even would have offered monetary compensation for those that wished to leave. If Yugoslavia comes to their senses, we may even extend that offer now. About Wien, we don't see it as a crisis. As long as Germany chooses not to turn it into a confrontation, everyone will be fine.

to Turkey:

Thanks


Production of advanced war equipment has been speeded up, and the superior weapons will soon be pouring into combat. Army and Air force are undergoing expansion to offset the Yugoslavian conscription, but the Kyiv enlargement is methodical and precise so the soldiers are much better trained and equiped. Meanwhile, the army has been ordered to for the time being ignore civilian targets and concentrate on pushing back Yugolslavian soldiers. Discretion has been given to the generals, they will of course exploit any weaknesses of the enemy to the fullest possible extent, but they have been instructed that they may sacrifice speed of advance in favor of reducing Kyiv soldier and especially Yugoslavian civilian casualties. Propoganda in remote and dissafected regions of Yugoslavia is being spread, and anti Yugoslavian splinter cells within the country are being supported.

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Russia to Yugoslavia: We stand with Kyiv

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To: Kyiv
We are not in this for the land we are in it to protect another country, please let Wien choose freely its choise. Also leave Yugoslavia alone!!!

To: Baltic League
See Russia supports Kyiv Help us against them.

To: America(secret)
Will you help us against the Kyiv threat?


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The German Government has nationalized all German companies owned by the Swiss and put them back up for sale to any one but the swiss.

The German Goverment seeing the condition of the country starts work to improve things by getting people more jobs. (Complete)

The Goverment see the weakness of our military and desides to start building it up.
Army to Very Large (2.5 years)
Navy to Medium (2 years)
Air Force to Medium (2 years)

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Germany (currently white)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

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To: Yugoslavia
Would you like to join the German Republic?

OCC: What are Yugoslavias stats?

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Yugoslavia (white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Socialist Dictatorship
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: High

July 1967
Greece and Baltic League to Kyiv: Prepare for war!
Greek forces have gone to reinforce the Yugoslavs, and the Kyivan advance has been nearly halted, though they are still gaining ground. Baltic forces have attacked Kyiv from the north, but were not very successful, and most baltic troops have stayed at home, fearing a russian invasion.
Yugoslavia to Kyiv: You have no claim to our territories. After WWI, the nations of southeast europe were created based on the ethnic identities of the people. Those identities have not changed. The Yugoslavian people are still ovewhelmingly Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, Macedonian, Bosnian, or Albanian (OOC: or any other Yugoslav group I may have forgotten.). You have no legitimate claim to any Yugoslav territories.

Nationalist rebellions have broken out in Slovenia, Albania, and Dalmatia. All of these groups have welcomed Kyivan aid but have warned that they do not want Kyiv to attempt to take over any Yugoslav ethnicity.

Yugoslavia to Germany: No, we are pround of our independence. Protect us from the evil Kyivans, and we will enter a very close alliance with you.

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Germany to Kyiv: If you do not with draw your forces from all occupied terr immidietly we will be forced to go to war with you!!!

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kyiv to Germany:

this is not your concern. We hav enever done anything to you, please stay out of it.

Kyiv to Turkey (SECRET) :

shall we split Greece? You can have all their islands and we will get the mainland.

to Russia:

We would be honered if you would join us in fighting the Baltic League.

Kyiv to Yugolavian rebels (SECRET) :

could you be a little more clear in what it is you want?

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Germany to Kyiv: This is our concern, it became our concern when wien ask for help and we accepted and when we allied with Yugoslavia and you attack them, so we repeat with draw immidietly or face war.

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To Kyiv: This is also Britians concern. You have no right to any of more territory.

British Fleets have left port and are on station in the North Sea ready at a moments notice to move towards Kyiv. Troops have been sent to Yugoslavia to aid, train and equip the recruits there

To Germany:We agree that Kyiv has crossed a line and stand with you.

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Germany to Britan: We thank you for the support.

German troops have been placed along the front lines in Yugoslavia and ordered to repell any attack there and if Kyiv does not leave in 6 months to lead a counter-offensive.

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Kyiv to Britain and Germany:

You are old and broken, you had your chance at empire and failed miserably, because you were inept and greedy. We, however, will unite Eastern Europe under a just, free, and prosperous system. Your interference only extends the period of strife, putting off the time when the goals we have stated can be accomplished and all will benefit from them. You do this out of envy, or fear, we honestly cannot understand why you do this, it would be better for all if you just dropped it. So we will give you a chance to withdraw and go home, as long as you initiate no fighting between us there will be none and we can avoid death and mutual hardship and if you come to your senses soon, we will harbor no ill feelings towards you.


The Kyiv defense budget has been drastically increased, size of Army and Airforce will increase in a much shorter time, and facilities are now preparing recruits at an increasing rate. This has lessened the amount of training most new forces receive, but they are still decently trained and equipped and elite forces are still in operation. Carriers, subs, missile cruisers, destroyers, and partrol boats guard the shores. Bunkers/fortifications and missile launch sites are being set up.


Yugoslavian rebel groups are continuing to be aided and have been assured that their respective areas will be granted complete autonomy and enjoy all rights of Kyiv should they wish to move into Kyiv land. (this is what they wanted, correct?)

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To Kyiv: Just? Bringing other nations forcefully under your rule is never Just. While Britian's Empire is no longer around our former colonies are prosperous. Britian can not allow you to bring more fear and voilence to the world. Consider this a declaration of war.

To France: Would you consider joining us to contain the menace growing east of Germany.

To Germany: British Special forces are enrout to Berlin to be deployed among your troops.

British Troops have been mobilized and shipped to Germany for deployment. The British navy has moved 90 percent of our homeland fleet into a blockade of Kyiv. There are reports of fighting among the fleets but the results are still unknown.

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To: Kyiv
Yes we not have an empire any more, but that gives you no right to go about trying to take over stuff, we learned such the hard way, for that is why we lost our empire.

To: England
We thank you for the help.

To: World
You see how Kyiv craves for an empire they must be stopped, please help us do so.

Do to threats from Kyiv German is moblising for war all military projects are spead up by 2X all others are slowed down by 2X. Also all male citizens 18 years to 45 are get some basic military training to defend in case of invasion or if they need to be called up.

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Turkey to Kyiv (SECRET): Maybe...but we won't join this war until we see how it is unfolding.
Yugoslav rebels to Kyiv: We want the individual ethnic groups of Yugoslavia to be independent nations, not ruled by Yugoslavia but not ruled by you either. We thank you for your aid, though, and will be friendly towards you if we succeed.

Norway and Denmark to Kyiv (SECRET): We might be interested in helping you in this war. That is, if you are willing to bribe us a little...

Due to British and GErman aid, the Yugoslavs have pushed the Kyivans almost back to teh border.

In Israel, American forces continue to advance. All of Lebanon has been captured and Sinai has been taken, though the Suez canal is still controlled by Egypt.

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To: USA
From: Saudi Arabia

Due to your continue attacks on our allies, while we have all agreed on a cease fire, we shall continue this war, you asked for it, not us.

To: London Conference
From: Saudi Arabia

Due to the continuing attacks of American troops we can no longer accept the cease fire we have agreed while coming here, and we shall leave the peace conference at once and open our hostilities with Isreal and their American puppets again, blame this on the United States, not on us as it is only because of them that we can no longer trust this "peace" conference.
We have stated our peace terms, but it seems they were not accepted looking at the American response.

To: Allies and Iran
From: Saudi Arabia

The Americans have kept pushing against us, even when we have all agreed to a cease fire, and even if we didn't react to their first aggression, leaving them the benefits of the doubt, trusting that their troops were not have been alerted in time of the end of hostilities.
However, this second wave of attacks against us by the Americans is a clear sign on what were the real intentions of the Ameicans when they came here with the excuse of helping Israel.
I'm calling on a total war against them, and this time, due to their lack of dignity and morality, we shall have no mercy on them.
LET'S FIGHT FOR OUR OWN LAND AND FREEDOM

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(secret)
Plan of War

- Heavy bombing with Air Force and Artillery against American positions
- Then send the Army to take them out
- Send Propaganda viideos to American Network showing them atrocities the American troops have committed. (I'm sure some network would take them and broadcast them)
- Navy is to patrol Oman, and Yemen coasts
(/secret)

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Saudi Arabia Stats: January 1967

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 18 Milions
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Medium-Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Alliance: GAA (Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, -Tunis Sultanate-, Iraq and Iran)
Trade Pact: Kyiv Confederation, Iran, All GAA members, Marocco.

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Upgrade education system: done
Recover economy back to Stable: 1,5 years
Enlarge Army: 3 years

Saluti

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To Britain: We are with you in spirit, however I fear our ability to assist militarily is very little, as we have committed most of our forces to the Isreali conflict. We'll try to help, anyway.

To Kiev:
Your establishment in Eastern Europe is indeed a laudable goal, though we question your methods. If you had just let the situation develop diplomatically, I'm sure you could've accomplished the same goals as you hope to attain through military action. France cannot stand for this military action, but also does not beleive that we need to take so drastic an action at this point as war. I beleive that there should be diplomatic solutions considered first. We declare sanctions to be in place against you.

France initiates embargo of Kyiv.

France reinforces american troops moving on Isreal. The French airforce combats Saudi air attacks and attempts to soften military objectives in the path of the army. After seeing Saudi propaganda on the airwaves, the French government submits the images of escaped prisoners of war to the American media.

Upgrade Air Force to Medium: Complete
New Jet Bomber: 3.5 Years
(coorperatively) Rocket capable of launching into space: 1 Year

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To Saudi Arabia:
We never agreed to any such cease fire, deny it all you want but its the truth. We never halted advances nor said anything about halting our offensives. Besides, it was evident that you will not settle for anything less than annihilating the state of Israel which is intolerable.


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200,000 more Soldiers mobilized to reinforce Israel.


Propaganda stepped up, of the atrocities committed by Arab forces. The establishment of rape camps, the brutal torture of POW's and the enslavement of the Jewish populace, and how this evil must stop, like the evil in Nazi Germany was stopped. The Good will not allow evil to reign in this world.

The CIA and NSA begin operations to prevent any anti-American propaganda from appearing on any broadcast whatsoever.

The American Navy sent in full throttle to establish naval supremacy in eastern Mediterranean, the Persian Gulf and coast of Oman.

The Air Force and Navy Fighter Jets launch a major campaign into crippling Arab air force and gaining Air Superiority.

Upgrading all weapons to superior weaponry, state-of-the-art.

Enlarging Army: 4 years

Enlarging Navy: 6 years

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Kyiv to France:

Look carefully at the history of this conflict. You will find that it has only developed to its present stage because of the arrogant interference the Germans and British have pushed in with. We tried extending diplomacy and we were insulted. Even now, though, we will only fight the British and Germans when they directly attack us, even after their best attempts to get us to enter into a war with them, which we will not willingly do. We still seek peace with them. Our conflict is with Yugoslavia, who refused to respond to a legitimate request with anything but an insult, and with Greece and the Baltic League, who are no more than opportunistic scum that jumped in merely because they saw a chance for a little 'warfare fun' and land grabbing, who knows what their motivation is if not that. And even with these treacherous no-good governments, who persecute their people mercilessly, we are willing to come to a diplomatic resolution, just as we have always tried to. But we have offered enough concessions in that respect. We will not stop fighting until they have come to us diplomatically, instead of the other way around as we have tried so often. We are troubled that you would go to such extreme actions as sanctions when the situation is so clearly not our fault, but we are glad that you at least do not declare war on us without provocation, unlike others, and hope that you can instill a sense of justice and diplomacy in these afformentioned countries.

Kyiv to Norway and Denmark (SECRET):

Bribe you?! Why would we do such an immoral thing as that? We would however like to purchase a few of your fine toothpicks for a rather hefty sum, if you get our drift. Lets try and keep this hushed up shall we? But if you do decide to join our righteous crusade don't attack anyone except the Baltic League. Britain and Germany are just a little confused and are really doing this out of a sense of good, they just got mized up. Baltic league, however, are dirty rotten backstabbers and should be shown no mercy until their governments have been completely replaced with something that won't lead their people into foolish unjust wars.


Kyiv generals have been ordered that if any foreigner takes one step onto native Kyiv soil they are to completely abandon their policy of 'defensive fighting only' against whatever nation perpetrated it.


Steps are being taken by the Kyiv government to ensure that the economy doesn't suffer from the decreased trade and are opening up alternate trade routs with anyone interested.

to Russia (SECRET) :

Ummm? are you going to... help?

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The Danish navy, in a shocking move, has cut off the Sound from any German, British, French, Baltic, or Yugoslav ships. They have also threatened that any attempt to fly over the Sound will be blocked.

Yugoslavia, Baltic League, and Greece to Kyiv, forwarded to the World: You say attacking your territory would be abandoning defensive doctrine. What would you say, then, about the Allied invasion of Germany at the end of WWII? Was that not abandoning the policy of defending and liberating, and going instead on the offensive?

Yugoslavia to the US: Could you spare some of your ships and troops in the Eastern Mediterranean to help us?

Yugoslav and Greek troops have attacked rebels in Yugoslavia. After one defeat, the rebels dispeersed, but are rumored to be reoganizing

Turkey to the world: No ships with the purpose of invading Kyiv will be allowed into the Black Sea.

In the US, the civil rights movement, which has started to increase its campaigns due to President Thurmond's prosegregation stance, has also taken an anti-war stance, urging a compromise peace in Israel and warning against getting involved in Yugoslavia. Also, they demand that more information about what is going on in Israel be made public, after seeing a few images (though not many, and not all of the public has seen them) sent by the Arabs.

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To: USA
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Besides, it was evident that you will not settle for anything less than annihilating the state of Israel which is intolerable.

What you say here is just laughable, we have proposed our peace terms, and ALL nations, even France have agreed with it, all nations but you.
Sure there were some minor disagreements in one point, but those would have been peacefully resolved if it wasn't for your attacks on our forces.
How could you expect that we would have been willing to talk about peace, while your troops were slaughtering our own people.
You are just a fool, and you are causing the death of many arab people, but not only, also the death of many American and French soldiers.

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These are the final words of a long speech that King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz held in the Holy City of Mecca, trying to get support for the war.
"The Americans and the French may attack us, they may destroy us, they may kill us. But as long as at least one Arab man will be alive, he will be fighting against his oppressors, if they want our land, they will have to take it city by city, house by house, meter by meter, they will need to kill us all, because we will never let a foreign power to rule over us, NEVER.
And should they win the war, and conquer our land, we will burn our oil fields, we will kill our animals, we will destroy our farms and pollute our water, because If we can't live here, noone will.
And now let's show them what a proud Arab warrior can do, what a Berber, an Egyptian and a Sudanese can achieve, knowing that we are fighting for our own land, for our own right to live.

Saluti

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OOC: LOL
I'm starting to like being a Saudi Arabian... eh eh.


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To Britain, Germany: Perhaps it would be wise not to attack the Kyiv homeland. Lets not make this any more serious than it is. I think that we can come to a diplomatic solution on this. (staying in the French character )

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To: France
We have not entered Kyiv lands only pushed them out of lands not theirs.

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OOC: I label my first post every day with the month and year. The above post of mine was still July 1967 (or actually more like October or something if you want to be more precise).

January 1968
In Eastern India, Muslims have declared independence as Pakistan. They refuse to recognize the Iranian control of (West) Pakistan.

After agreeing to recognize Pakistan as independent, some stability has returned to India.
India to Iran: Please grant independence to Pakistan.

Norway has launched a surprise invasion of Finland. They have been rather successful, but are now nearly stalemated by a mixed Baltic force.

Yugoslavian forces have beaten back the Kyivan invaders to the prewar borders. The border is now being very carefully guarded.

Sweden to Britain and France: We would be willing to convoy your ships through the Sound and disrupt the Danish blockade of it.

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To: Kyiv
We order you to now with draw from wien!!!

To:Wein
Do you want idependance or to join one of the countries?

To: America(secret)
Will you help us against the Kyiv threat?


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The German Government has nationalized all German companies owned by the Swiss and put them back up for sale to any one but the swiss.

The German Goverment seeing the condition of the country starts work to improve things by getting people more jobs. (Complete)

The Goverment see the weakness of our military and desides to start building it up.
Army to Very Large (2 years)
Navy to Medium (1.5 years)
Air Force to Medium (1.5 years)

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Germany Stats:

Germany (currently white)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

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Kyiv to Germany:

Order us, eh? We collectively extend our middle finger to your arrrogant and hypocritical orders.

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To Germany:
At the current moment we are in a war in the Middle East. We can not afford to fight on another front with a fresh new enemy. We will do what we can to help you.

 
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