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civman2000 is offline civman2000
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What if, for some reason, nuclear weapons did not and could not exist in the world?...

After the end of World War II in 1947, the UN was formed. Seven years later, it ceased to exist, as all the communist nations and their allies withdrew from the failed attempt to secure world peace....

1952 was a year of action. The UN, after being hung up on the issue of the occupation zones of Japan, finally turned to the Palestine issue. After three months of debate, the state of Israel was formed, and immediately declared war on by its neighbors.

Meanwhile, just a few hundred miles to the east, India was in chaos. Britain had just given independence to India and Pakistan in 1950, and the countries were already at war. The British debated whether they should intervene, as the horrible war continued.

COntinue moving east, to Korea. AS a result of WWII, it has been split between the communist north and the democratic south. In 1952, the north declared war on the south. China and then Russia quickly gave support to the North. In response, the US and her allies declared war on the Communist bloc! Merely 5 years after the second world war ended, the third began.

Soon, the war truly became a world war. Pakistan and the Arab nations sided with Russia, while Israel, Iran, and India chose the US. British troops moved to India to help fight the CHinese, Pakistani, and Russian onslaughts. Meanwhile, throughout

Africa rebellions erupted, and with the British and French focused on fighting RUssia many succeeded. Indochina gained independence, but declared neutrality in the war.

In the beginning of teh war, it looked like the Communists would win. South Korea was quickly overrun; the US lost the islands of Honshu and Shikoku in Japan to Russia. WEst Germany and Yugoslavia (which sided with the US) began to fall to Russia as well. Egypt seized the Suez Canal, and the US devoted a large amount of resources to defending Israel, which succeeded but at teh cost of the resistance on the Korea-Japanese front and in Europe.

Then, suddenly, Stalin died. For nine months the USSR was in chaos. They were not overrun, and after those nine months a somewhat stable leadership was in place, but too much had gone wrong already. The Communist Alliance was doomed. It held on for 3 more years, and Russia was never conquered. HOwever, tis government collapsed, as did China's. Britain made India a colony once more to avoid further wars between India and Pakistan. Israel, with the US's help, took Sinai, the West Bank, Golan Heights, and some other areas.

Now, it is 1958. Most of Africa has gained independence. Russia's empire has been split up; Kazakstan is independent, the rest of Turkistan and the Caucasian states have been given to Iran. The on ex-SSR other than RUssia itself that has been retained is Belorussia. Germany and Korea have been tentatively reunited. Manchuria and TIbet have been given independence from CHina, and part of Western CHina was given to Mongolia. Albania was given to Yugolavia for their help in the war. Overall, Communism has fizzled just as fascism did. Now the US's hegemony is undisputed, or is it?...


Note: I will control the white nations (and maybe a country too) and the events. Note that you can choose almost any nation, you are not limited to the colored ones. Just request a country and I'll give you the stats! Also, "industrialization" is a measure of how industrially developed a country is, which also reflects to a certain extent how technologically advanced it is. Military and economy is like in GDNES2. Oh, and one last thing: 1 day=6 months

Nations:
Britain (orange)
Ruler: DemonSlayer
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: Medium
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

US (light blue)
Ruler: Easthaven I
Army: Large
Navy: Large
Air Force: Large
Government: Democracy
Economy: Booming
Industrialization: Very High

France (pink)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Very High

Israel (blue)
Ruler: ??
Army: Medium
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Medium-Low

Saudi Arabia (yellow)
Ruler: Giovanni Wine
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Low

Russia (brown)
Ruler: gooberboob
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Provisional and weak Republic
Economy: Depression
Industrialization: High

Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Monarchy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Low

China (red)
Ruler: ??
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Provisional and weak Republic
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Medium

Japan (maroon)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: High

Switzerland (dark brown)
Ruler: Sheep
Army: Tiny
Navy:None
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Democracy
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Very High

Ukraine (light yellow)
Ruler: foolish_icarus
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Weak Republic provisional government
Economy: Depression
Industrialization: High

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Wuz up civman. Cool, bro.

Anyhoo, can I take the good ole US of A?

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NO NUKES?! I'll pass for now, maybe when Skilord or Giovanni's NES dies I'll come in as a rogue nation and practice banditry

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n/m I want USSR!!

Die Capitalism Die!!! MWAHAHAAHAA

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Hmm, so I can choose any nation?

I'll just take Iran, but I considered choosing the Vatican.

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I kinda wanted to be Djibouti, Djibouti rocks

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Can I have the stats for Ukraine and Cote d'Ivoire? I'll choose between the two.

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canI be Luxembourg, or better still Switzerland. Just somewhere noone will invade this time.

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gooberboob: The USSR now llonger exists, only Russia and it's not Communist. Is that OK? And Djibouti doesn't exist either, but Somalia does.

foolish_icarus:

Ukraine (currently white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Weak Republic provisional government
Economy: Depression
Industrialization: High

Cote d'Ivoire (currently white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Tiny
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: None
Government: Dictatorship
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Low

Sheep: I'm afraid you can't be Luxembourg because it's too small to fit on the map! But here are the Switzerland stats:

Switzerland (currently white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Tiny
Navy:None
Air Force: None
Government: Democracy
Economy: Prosperous
Industrialization: Very High

People who chose colored nations have been added to teh first post. People who chose currently white nations will be added (and their nations colored in the map) when they confirm their choice after seeing the stats. The clock will officially start running when we have 5 people with countries chosen, but you can do some diplomacy before then.

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occ: The Swiss amry is very well trained and Switzerland is very mountainous I want you to remeber that and make it Small also, for it size is great. Also why don;t I have an air force thats an insult.

I will play as Switzerland. WARNING anyone invading me will make a enemy for life.

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The Swiss army is well-trained but Tiny. The country's so small though that that's actually a relatively large army. And I'll give you a tiny airforce. You are dark brown on the map.

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occ: cool you can hardly see me!

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Thanks civman. I'll be Ukraine.

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Britian still open? If it is i will take it.

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I'm going to be Arabia

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Whats Germanys stats I may want them?

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First post with new countries will be updated when i get home so I can update the map too.

Nimitz:

Germany (currently white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Democracy
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Very High


Oh, BTW, we have enough people, so I declare this NES to begin now (January 1958)

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Swiss banks begin heavily investing in Russian, Ukranian, German and American companies. Stock Markets around the world begin to rise.

To all nations: The Swiss government confirms its long stance of neutrality. So don;t ask for an alliance.

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could i be Madagascar?

civman, owing to the fact that other NES have have been ruined by impossible actions and the like, how are you going to deal with that here?

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January 1958 events
In India riots between Hindus and Muslims break out. SEveral British officials are killed. Many Indians are calling for open rebellion to gain independence.



Um, I'll moderate things where there's a lot of trouble amd give warnings and suggestions if we start getting unreasonable.

Madagascar (currently white)
Ruler: ??
Army: Tiny
Navy: Small
Air Force: None
Government: Republic
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Low

BTW, 1st post is updated.

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The interim government of Ukraine has been replaced by a strong federated republic/democracy system with pro-market policies but also labor and social equality leanings. All available government funds not needed for basic necessary operations have been redirected into putting people back to work. Ukraine is accepting investment for renovation of industrial capacities of any sort, and welcomes efforts to help us rebuild. The state's intervention in the economy to such a large degree is keeping things inefficient, but the current main goal is employing the populace again in meaningfull jobs and getting the industries competive. Once that has been accomplished the gov will back off some.

Ukraine to all nations:

we would like to trade and exchange investment and open markets to eachother for the benefits of all involved.

to Estonia, Latvia Lithuania, Moldava, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia:

we were all recently part of or satellites of the former USSR, now we can be united again, only this time with equal say and autonomy in a system that will make us stronger and more prosperous, but will not limit our freedom in any way, possibly even increase it. Let us join together to create a new power of peace and prosperity.

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American foreign policy has changed back to one of the isolationist. Trade pacts and investments will carry on as normal but militarily the U.S. will only involve itself when its in our best interests.

The U.S. begins drilling oil in Alaska.

Upgrading Army to Huge: 6 years
Upgrading navy to Huge: 6 years

All are welcomed to invest in the US market. and soon oil in Alaska will be open for business.

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OOC: foolish_icarus, not all of the countries you mentioned exist, only Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, ROmania, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, and Czechoslovakia as one country. Furthermore, Yugoslavia was never a satellite of the USSR and sided with the US in the war.

Bulgaria, Romania, and Poland to Ukraine: We would like to join such an organization.

Hungary and Czechoslovakia to Ukraine: Hmmm...maybe, we might join later buyt not immediately.

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania to Ukraine: We will never again take chances with losing our full independence. Sorry, but no.

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Internal actions in the British empire: In Responce to the roits erupting in India the Local government has placed martial law into effect. This will be repealed when the area has calmed sufficently to allow the Natives of the area to vote which course they would prefer. Using advancements in flight the british airforce has begun a project of Advanced Jet Propulsion. Also To repair the damages of war the government has begun a massive recontruction project that is estiamated to take six years at the least. Also, after these internal improvements are done the peoples living in the colonies shall be allowed to choose the course of their nations.

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To the United States: Since you are closer to our canadian properties perhaps you can provide them with more effiecent aid then we in Britian can do.

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Iran to Kazakstan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Kuwait, and Syria: Let's put all of our differences aside and join together in a grand Southwest Asian Alliance, so that we may all become powerful.

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