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To: Iran
From: Saudi Arabia

We shall attend the peace conference.

To: France
From: Saudi Arabia

Israel has fallen, don't make an enemy out of a possible friend, let's sign peace, and we shall also give you back all French POWs captured in Israel.

To: Madagascar
From: Saudi Arabia

Sign peace, and we will let your troops leave Oman untouched, there is no point in continuing this war.

To: US
From: Saudi Arabia

Stop your attacks, what is going on between the GAA and Lybia is a matter of no concern for you

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War Plans (forwarded to all allies, including Kyiv)

- Sudan, Egyptian and some troops from Saudi Arabia and Jordan will keep pushing against the Lybian.

- All Syrian, Iraqis, Iran, most Jordan and Saudis forces are to stay in Israel and organazi the defense against Isrealian guerrillas, they are also to fortify the beaches there against a possible invasion from outside.

- Any American and French POW shall be treated with the maximum respect.

- Saudis Air Force is to strike against the Madagascarian troops still in Oman, and force them to surrender.

- Saudis Navy, with help from Iran Navy is to still protect the Southern Arabian Coast, blocking any supplies heading towards the Madagascarian troops in Oman.

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Saudi Arabia Stats: Janaury 1966 (???)

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 17 Milions
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Alliance: GAA (Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, -Tunis Sultanate-, Iraq and Iran)
Trade Pact: Kyiv Confederation

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Industralization to Medium-Low: 0,5 years
Upgrade education system: 1 years
Recover economy back to Stable: 3 years

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January 1966
Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon to Iran: We will attend the peace conference, but will not accept any peace in which Israel exists.
Iraq to Iran: We will attend the peace conference.

Syria and Jordan to Saudi Arabia: We cannot agree to treat the American and French scum well.

Riots and revolts continue in India and Pakistan. However, there has been no organized revolts; the revolt in North Pakistan was quelled by Iranian forces.

Libya has fallen apart. Sudanese, Egyptian, and Kyivan forces have taken all of Libya itself, and Tunis has been liberated by revolts.

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To France:
You can not give up the fight. What they did was wrong. Somebody must defend the little people. Somebody must defend justice.


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The 101st Airborne division land in northeastern Tripoli. A amphibious force of 150,000 US soldiers land on the shore west of Tripoli. The enemy forces are surprised, expecting US invasion through Israel. 15 Tank divisions ready to make landfall once Soldiers secure area.

82nd Airborne division land in Oman to reinforce the Madagascars. An amphibious force of 75,000 Marines land in the Madagascar secured region of Oman. 8 Tank divisions follow with 25,000 soldiers of the 10th Mountain Division.

The Oman forces ordered to establish and secure a base of Operations and working airfields. Then are to resume offensives. Reinforcements en route. They have close air support from carrier fleets.

American forces in Tripoli, Lebanon ordered to secure base of operations and shoot towards Isreal with Tank divisions spearheading. Close air support from the sea accompany the invasion force.

Navy Seals, Rangers, Special Forces, and CIA send many troopers to aid the Israeli guerillas.

To world:
We will not tolerate the Arab conquest of Israel. Return Israel to its former status and American forces will withdrawal.

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Kyiv to U.S:

we have already secured Libya. We are not part of your Israeli conflict, please leave us out of it and go around.



The Kyiv economy has finally recovered from the Swiss incident, but not only is it at Growing again, the reforms and strengthening issued to prevent or lessen the impact of such an event happening again mean that the economy will continue growing, and will reach Prosperous levels and Very High industrialization within 2 to 4 years.


Air force development in numbers and sophistication of technology, planned to bring the Air Force to large levels in 4 years.

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Russia is with Kyiv

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Reports of mistreatment of French POWs begin filtering out of Jordan and Syria. One escapes, hideously mangled through torture, and the French people are outraged!

The French military hits the Mediterrean coast of Syria. Hard. The western coast is taken by surprise, and the French military successfully takes all of the coastal ports. French paratroopers land in the Golan Heights, and with the assistance of the many Isreali guerrillas there, begin the southern manuevre in a two-pronged attack aimed at taking Damascus. The foreign legion descends south from the coast without finding any resistence, as the Syrians are all tied up in Isreal, meet up with the battered resistance fighters and paratroopers, and successfully take Damascus. There, the troops prepare for an attack south into Jordan.

To the United States: We're with you. Please send reinforcements for our push back into Isreal from the northeast, our army is not so great as yours. We hope to meet up in Jerusalem soon.

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Lebanese and Syrian forces have counterattacked the French, pushing them back to the coastal cities. However, this has resulted in the success of a resistence movement in former northern Israel, which has declared its full independence as Israel, and claims all of Israel's prewar possessions.

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Madagascan troops are relieved to receive American supplies. They finally make some progress against Arab forces.

Madagascar is now more and less on the same level as most of Europe in regard to technology and industry.

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OOC: Kyiv, I meant Tripoli in northern Lebanon, not Tripoli in northern Libya.

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50,000 Marines reinforce the American forces in Lebanon.

American forces in north Lebanon march south, taking Beirut and linking up with the French forces.

The soldiers of the 101st Airborne division march into northern Israel to reinforce the guerillas. 4 Tank divisions go with them along with 10,000 soldiers.

American and allies hold Lebanon and northern Israel. Reinforcements en route.

From Tripoli, 75,000 soldiers flanked by 10 Tank divisions launches an attack on Damascus, enveloping and destroying enemy forces as the Tank divisions spearhead on the flanks of the enemy and to their rear, the Infantry then marches to the enemy front, thus enveloping them.

Special Forces troops and Israeli Guerillas launch an attack in north Gaza. The forces holds north Gaza, they fight off a series of Arab offensives. They call upon the allies to hurry and relieve them. This diverts much Arab attention.

Another covert uprising occurs in western Jerusalem. 500 Rangers and Special Forces as well as nearly 2,000 Isreali guerillas attack an hold western Jerusalem. They too call for an ally offensive into the rest of Israel to relieve them.


Forces in Oman, together with the Madagascarans, launch another offensive into Saudi Arabia, in an effort to divert Arab attention from the Israeli front.

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Iran - Diplomacy

Iran to Britain: Would you be willing to hold a peace confrence in London in order to solve this Arab-Israeli conflict?

Iran to Kyiv: Would you like to sign a trade pact?
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Iran - Military Actions

The Iranian forces in Israel continue to be stationed there, working with the Saudis.

Ships continue to guard the entrance to the Persian Gulf and the Pakistan coast.

Iranian forces have lost some ground in Oman, however, reinforcements are on the way.

Iranian forces continue to remain in Pakistan to put a end to the armed revolts. However, the army does not break up peaceful protests, as the right to protest (as long as you are not breaking laws) is one of the rights protected in the new Constitution.
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Iran - Domestic Happenings

-The Air Force will upgrade to small in 1.5 years (3 days).

-The Army will upgrade to Very Large in .5 years (1 days).

-Parliament members and a new PM have been elected by the people. In this new Parliament, people of all cultures and religions that are part of the Iranian Empire are now represented in government.
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Iran - Statistics - January 1966
Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Medium-Low

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Kyiv to Iran:

yes


Kyiv supports peace talks about the israeli-Arab conflict and suggests that a cease-fire commense immediatly

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Britian will host the conference provided that all hostilities end before they take place.

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To Pakistan: Can't you see that with Irans new form of government you will have a say in the policies that nation sets forth, after you settle down from this insanity.

To our colony in India: With the Muslims that live in Pakistan gone you can be relieved. Six months from now the vote that has come to the rest of the British Empire will come to your nation. We know now that you will probaly choose your independence and wish you well in that endeavour.

British Troops while still on alert in India have had there activities cut. People are allowed out after dark until 10 pm and regain the right to PEACEFULLY assemple.

occ: civman options for india is the same as all the others same conditions 60 % or higher first vote or the second round is the two greater vote recievers.

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Current projects:
New Fighter Design (3 years)
Air Force to Large(4 years)
(Project Apollo(9 years))
Retrofit of Navy(4 years)
Better Computers(3 years remaining)
Rocketry Program(2.5 years with French help)(less if others join in)

Current Stats:
Army-Huge
Navy-Huge(Slightly antiquated)
Air Force-Medium to Large(In Progress)
Economy-Stable (Recovery from Swiss Collapse complete) Growing in two years
Industralization-very high(Factory upgrades complete)
Government-Democracy

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July 1966
Pakistani rebels to Britain: Strnge that you point that out...if you had given us INDEPENDENCE, we would have MUCH more control over our policies, wouldn't we?
India vote: many Muslim leaders have boycotted the vote or voted against independence because they know that an independent India would be a Hindu INdia. They demand that areas of Eastern India be made a separate, Muslim country.
Colony: 9%
Commonwealth: 40%
Independence: 51%
Runoff:
Commonwealth: 47%
Independence: 53%

Riots have broken out throughout India, as Muslims demand a Muslim Indian nation.

In Pakistan, the rebellions have begun to die down.

A huge pan-Arab force has destroyed the American and French invasion forces and destroyed the Israeli rebels in former northern israel, but te Arabs are now weakened and their forces are concentrated in western Syrai and Lebanon.

Tunis, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Iraq to Kyiv and Britain: WE agree to stop hostilities during the peace negotiations.

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Saudis bombing raid other Madagascarin positions in Oman have increased, to soften up their defenses.

After many bombing raid Saudis troops attack the Madagascarian fortification, pushing them back, and leaving them only a small fortification in the beaches near Mirbat

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The Saudi delegation arrived in London, after having met with the British ambassador they have started to talk with the British Foreign Minister on what their peace terms will be, while waiting for the other delegations from France, USA, Jyiv, Iran and the other GAA members to arrive

The peace terms proposed by Saudi Arabia consists in:

Israel will not be allowed to exist anymore, their former territories will be split in:

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- The North will be the New Independent Nation of Lebanon
- Sinai, including the Suez Canal will be given back to Egypt.
- Syria and Jordan will take back their former territories in the east of Israel
- The rest of former Israel will, from now on, be called Palestine, and it will be ruled by the Palestinian Liberation Movement.

The old Lybian territories will instead be splitted like this:
- Cyrenaica to Egypt
- The Oil rich south of Lybia will be given to Sudan

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New Inustries opened in Saudi Arabia
New industries have opened throghout the Saudi Arabian territory, Chemichal industries have opened in Giddha, Automobile Manufacturing have opened in Al-Riyad, and Naval Canteers have opened in San'à and Damman

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To: Everybody
From: Saudi Arabia

We agree on a cease fire while we are discussing the peace terms

To: GAA
From: Saudi Arabia

I hope you will all support the peace terms I've proposed.

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Saudi Arabia Stats: July 1966

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 17 Milions
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Medium-Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Alliance: GAA (Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, -Tunis Sultanate-, Iraq and Iran)
Trade Pact: Kyiv Confederation

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Industralization to Medium-Low: done
Upgrade education system: 0,5 years
Recover economy back to Stable: 2,5 years
Enlarge Army: 4 years

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OOC: civman, so we have no more troops in the middle east? totally annihilated or what?

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American representatives arrive in London.

US terms:
We will not accept anything short of giving Israel its nation back. Perhaps, splitting it among the Palestines and Israelis or co-ruling. But the annihilation of the state of Israel will not be tolerated.

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OOC: There are a few, but almost entirely destroyed or captured or evacuated by ship. However, the Arabs were greatly weakened and are quite vulnerable to a coutnerattack.

Syrian and Jordanian representatves in London have said that them replacing the Israeli government with a new Muslim state is certainly not worse and in their opinion better than what the US did not long ago in Iran, replacing a legitimate government with an oppressive regime. Of course, reforms in Iran have been established since and Iran's government is now good and legitimate, but what the US did when they created it was at least equal to what is being done to Israel.

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American representative in London says that just because the US might have made a mistake with Iran in the past, that doing it again makes it right? It is good to know history so that you do not repeat the mistakes, but knowing history to intentionally repeat them is stupid.


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After regrouping the retreated forces, and reinforcing them with fresh troops including the 1st Infantry division and 10th Mountain division, the second invasion force now numbers 100,000 soldiers and marines plus 75,000 French and 10,000 Israelis totalling a force of 185,000 men. This new force also holds 6 Tank divisions, 3 of which were from previous landing. After heavy bombardment and close air support, Special Forces and guerillas disrupt the organization and communication on the beaches of Israel. This is followed by the second landing of American, French, and Israeli forces. Finally, linking up with the stranded forces in West Jerusalem and Gaza.

(Civman, say how successful this second landing was).

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Kyiv to Yugoslavia:

You have areas that rightfully belong to Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria. Give them back immediately.

Here is Kyiv’s plan for the region of the Middle East in dispute:

The areas of Ramleh, Jaffa (Tel-Aviv), Tulkarm, Haifa, the north-west corner of Acre, Safad, Tiberias, and western Jerusalem will form the new Israel. The rest will go to the Arabs to split up amongst themselves or form a new state, whatever they want. Neither side may encroach in any way upon the other’s territory.

In Kyiv, grants and investment are encouraging research and technological progress in the following areas:

Development of computers and electronics, rocketry and missiles, air power, advanced ceramics, plastics, and alloys and better materials manufacturing in general, as well as more modular and adaptable components with applications that range from domestic appliances to industrial assembly to military hardware.

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Hi, I am new here but I would like to join since I seem to quite like the NES idea... Are there any states left?

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OOC: Abdul-Aziz, there are many countries left. Take a look at the map on page 10. All of the white countries are not taken.

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Iran - Diplomacy

Iran to Britain: Would you like to sign a trade pact with us?

Iran to Kyiv: Thank you.

Iran to Saudi Arabia: We propose a trade pact to help improve our relations and our economies.

The Iranian representatives to the peace confrence arrive in London. Their proposal for the conflict:
-Lebanon will get independence.
-Syria and Jordan reclaim the land that the Israelis took from them.
-Sinai to Egypt.
-Israel must pay reparations to Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt to pay for damages caused when Israel took over some of their lands.
-A new democratic government is to be installed in Lybia.
-Lybia must pay reparations to Tunisia and Egypt.
-Madagascar must pay a small amount of reparations to the GAA for their unprovoked attack into Oman.
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Iran - Military Actions

The Iranian forces in Israel keep working with the Saudis and GAA members.

Ships continue to guard the entrance to the Persian Gulf and the Pakistan coast.

Reinforcements arrive in Oman to fight back against the Madagascarians.

Some Iranian forces leave Pakistan as revolts begin to die down. However, many will stay behind to ensure peace in the region.
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Iran - Domestic Happenings

- A new government program will cause industrialization to upgrade to Medium in 5 years (10 days).

- A government program to improve infrastructure throughout the Empire will cause the economy to upgrade to Prosperous in 3 years (6 days).

-The Air Force will upgrade to small in 1 years (2 days).

-The Army is now Very Large.
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Iran - Statistics - July 1966
Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: Jonny
Army: Very Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Tiny
Government: Constitutional Monarchy
Economy: Growing
Industrialization: Medium-Low
Alliances: Grand Arabic Alliance
Trade Pacts: Kyiv

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January 1967
The second landing of American (and their allies') forces was quite successful. They have liberated Israel nearly up to its prewar borders, except that they haven't captured much of Sinai.

Sudan and Iraq at London: We would accept Iran's terms.
Egypt at London: We will accept no peace in which we do not get both Sinai and Cyrenaica.
Syria at London: We repeat, we will not end this war until Israel is no more!
Jordan at London: We want restrictions on the size of Israel's military, otherwise we agree.

Yugoslavia to Germany: We would like to ally with you.
Germany (I'm controlling it until Nimitz gets back) to Yugoslavia: Agreed.

Yugoslavia to Kyiv: Stop your silly threats. And withdraw from Wien too, please. The world is starting to get sick of your warmongering.

The Baltic League nations to Germany and Kyiv: (SECRET) We will support whoever Russia doesn't support if this Wien conflict turns into a war.

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France at London: We will accept 1952 borders.

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To Iran:A Trade Pact is agreeable.

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The Madagagascan Parliament has voted to not send anymore soldiers into Oman, but to continue supporting the war. They have also voted to construct a larger navy. Work begins immediately.

Madagascan diplomats in London declare to accept anything the US agrees to, although they refuse to pay any compensation.

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To: Kyev
All we want is for you to leave Wien if you do we will, if not we would accept a vote monitered by independant moniters to see who the wish to join.

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The German Government has nationalized all German companies owned by the Swiss and put them back up for sale to any one but the swiss.

The German Goverment seeing the condition of the country starts work to improve things by getting people more jobs. (Complete)

The Goverment see the weakness of our military and desides to start building it up.
Army to Large (Complete)
Navy to Medium (2.5 years)
Air Force to Medium (2 years)

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Germany Stats:

Germany (currently white)
Ruler: Nimitz
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Government: Democracy
Economy: Stable
Industrialization: Very High

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To London:
We will accept 1952 borders as well. And niether of my allies will pay any sort reparations to the nations who started this war.

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To: London Conference
From: Saudi Arabia

Why did the Americans striked against Arab forces in Israel? We all agreed on a cease fire in order to start the peace talks, yet the Americans attacked our forces, for no other purpouse than to have a stronger position during the peace conference.

If the Americans want to continue the war, than so be it, we will surely not sit back and watch while the American soldiers slaughter our brave soldiers.

As for the peace terms, we can not accept any peace terms where Israel is still there. However we may accept that the Jewish populated areas of Palestine to be into control of a non-arab nation, as long as said nation have proved to be friendly with us.

Those our final terms:
- Sinai to Egypt
- Cyrenaica to Egypt
- Jordan and Syria gets their territories back
- Lebanon will get independence
- Arabian Palestine will either be independent or be part of Jordan
- Jewish Palestine will be under control of a foreign nation (maybe Kyiv if they accept)
- The rest of Lybia we don't care about

To: Iran
From: Saudi Arabia

We will welcome a trade pact with you

To: Madagascar
From: Saudi Arabia

We can allow some Madagascarian ships to enter our waters if you wish to withdraw your troops from Oman

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Saudi Arabia Stats: January 1967

Government: Monarchy
Ruler: King Fahd Ibn Abd-el Aziz
Capital: Ar-Riyad
Population: 17 Milions
Economy: Recession
Industrialization: Medium-Low
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Small
Alliance: GAA (Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, -Tunis Sultanate-, Iraq and Iran)
Trade Pact: Kyiv Confederation, Iran, All GAA members, Marocco.

Saudi Arabia Projects:
Upgrade education system: done
Recover economy back to Stable: 2 years
Enlarge Army: 3,5 years

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At the London conference, Kyiv has stated that if the parts of Israel we mentioned before were allowed to stay independant as a Jewish state, we would be willing to take responsibility, perhaps with a few other states, for ensuring that they behave.

Kyiv to Germany:

keep your part of Wien. We're keeping ours.

Kyiv to yugoslavia:

ha ha. You're such a wit. So be it.


kyiv has officially claimed all of Libya west of Al' Uqaylah (western two thirds of country) as well as the south east if Sudan or Egypt doesn't want it. The forces stationed their are implementing it as a full state and anyone there is welcome to become a Kyiv citizen.

Kyiv military is advancing across the Yugoslavian border, much in the same way as in the Wien occupation.