11-02-2003 05:05									#62
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The challenge is to build a perfect city...

	17-02-2003 00:50									#63
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How long did it take you to find Sim City 4 on Kazaa Tass?

	17-02-2003 02:05									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Trip How long did it take you to find Sim City 4 on Kazaa Tass?

Nobody in their right mind uses Kazaa for stuff like that.

	17-02-2003 14:44									#65
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Nobody in their right mind uses Kazaa for anything

	18-02-2003 13:34									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Trip How long did it take you to find Sim City 4 on Kazaa Tass?

Kazaa is soooooooo post-mortem napster, Tripgot I go with the democratic party on these things.....

	19-02-2003 10:48									#67
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WinMX, excuse me.

	19-02-2003 11:04									#68
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WinMX isn't any better.

Everyone knows eDonkey/Overnet is how you get software...

	19-02-2003 17:58									#69
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eMule.

	20-02-2003 02:01									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Asher WinMX isn't any better. Everyone knows eDonkey/Overnet is how you get software...

Whats overnet?

	20-02-2003 02:18									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld eMule.

The new eDonkey client is much better, it supports Overnet and eDonkey networks simulataneously.

Tass: Overnet is basically the next-generation eDonkey. You don't need to screw around with a server.met file, it figures it all out on its own. You just launch it, it connects and updates its own server index, then you can search and download.

	20-02-2003 02:23									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld eMule.

Haven't tried the new eDonkey client yet, but might want to, sometime in the future (Got other things on my mind at the moment)




Btw, wasn't this thread about SimCity 4, or was the thread title just to confuse the enemy?

	20-02-2003 03:27									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The new eDonkey client is much better, it supports Overnet and eDonkey networks simulataneously.

I might have to give that a try.... but I switched to eMule because the donkey wasn't working very well for me anymore. The last file I got with it took me three weeks and I don't think it was even 500mb. Now that I'm using eMule again, it's going aswell as eDonkey did when I first started using it - can get most files in a night or two. (I just wish so many people didn't set their upload to 10, the stingy bastards. )

	20-02-2003 04:08									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld (...) can get most files in a night or two. (I just wish so many people didn't set their upload to 10, the stingy bastards. )

Even if I was downloading with full speed all the time, I wont be able to get large files that fast

Oh, and I have set my upload to full speed... though not much better than 10... it's 12

	20-02-2003 05:39									#75
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Oh, and I have set my upload to full speed... though not much better than 10... it's 12

Every bit helps. My upload is capped at 20, but that is still twice as much as most people give.


I used to be able to get 60 up and 300 down when I lived in my old apartment and had first discovered eDonkey.

now my upload can't get past 20, and the download - despite being capable of much more - averages on 20-30, but only when the file is shared enough that I don't get stuck with mere 1-2kb downloads.


People also need to clean out their shared folders. With uploads capped at 10 and qeues a mile long, it's no wonder that it's become so stagnate these days.

	20-02-2003 14:02									#76
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I used to set a cap on 5-10 kb/s back in the days (= last year), but that was because I had to pay per mb I used (download + upload), so I tried to keep my expensive upload down, but now I don't pay more nomatter how much I download/upload so I have it full speed)...

	23-02-2003 22:48									#77
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Although I use Overnet mostly for gay porn download :lol

Can you convert Simcity3K into Simcity4 ones?

	23-02-2003 22:49									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Datajack Franit Can you convert Simcity3K into Simcity4 ones?

No.

	23-02-2003 22:54									#79
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So I wasted my time in building all those useless cities!!! GRRRRR!



I've gotten Simcity4 a cpl days ago and really stuck in it- and I was a pretty good Simcity Classic/2000/3000 player! Any suggestion about new tecniques to use?

	23-02-2003 23:11									#80
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There's a tips & tricks section on the official SimCity4 site...

	23-02-2003 23:11									#81
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I just got SC4 yesterday and all ive learnt atm is to build a **** load of zoning before building any government buildings (beyond the necessary power/water/transport etc), the upkeep costs are massive! My first city i didnt build my first small fire station until all my industrial sector was on fire. lol

	23-02-2003 23:12									#82
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quote: There's a tips & tricks section on the official SimCity4 site

http://simcity.ea.com/tipstricks/tipsntricks.php

And they are also going to post a budget tutorial some time soon... Or so they say.

	23-02-2003 23:14									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora (beyond the necessary power/water/transport etc)

Actually, I tried building a city like Yin said - without water, and that works quite fine - I've started a new one, and so far have a population of 14.000 yet they have no water. They don't seem to need it at first.

	23-02-2003 23:14									#84
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I try to avoid guides of any sort now, it really ruined my first few plays with sc3k to know what to do before i figured it out myself, its half the fun.

	23-02-2003 23:17									#85
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quote: Originally posted by vovansim Actually, I tried building a city like Yin said - without water, and that works quite fine - I've started a new one, and so far have a population of 14.000 yet they have no water. They don't seem to need it at first.

Sounds interesting... i never considered that, i thought water would be vital for at least residential buildings.

	23-02-2003 23:18									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora I try to avoid guides of any sort now, it really ruined my first few plays with sc3k to know what to do before i figured it out myself, its half the fun.

I agree actually. To me, it almost feels like cheating to read some strategy guide before I try the stuff myself. It's no fun that way. Then again, when you are stuck, and the game becomes frustrating and not fun, then you gotta do what you gotta do.

	23-02-2003 23:19									#87
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I agree, sometimes guides kills the fun... but I just had to read on how to get those busstops to work... my sims would never use public transportation (And this was both in SC3000 and SC4)

	23-02-2003 23:21									#88
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quote: Originally posted by vovansim Actually, I tried building a city like Yin said - without water, and that works quite fine - I've started a new one, and so far have a population of 14.000 yet they have no water. They don't seem to need it at first.

This works, yes, but I'd call this cheating, since I know I wouldn't want to live in a city, where you know they wont install water anytime soon...

	23-02-2003 23:23									#89
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quote: Originally posted by ADG but I just had to read on how to get those busstops to work... my sims would never use public transportation (And this was both in SC3000 and SC4)

And you read that where? I have the same problem, you see... The busstops and train stations are never used more than 10%... And subways are just always empty.

	23-02-2003 23:25									#90
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quote: Originally posted by ADG This works, yes, but I'd call this cheating, since I know I wouldn't want to live in a city, where you know they wont install water anytime soon...

I wouldn't call this cheating... Because look at the wealth of the sims that come to a city with no water. It's waaay down there. In any other city, they wouldn't have enough money to find a home, and here, since there are no basic amenities, the land value is so cheap, everyone can afford it. I can see people choosing an apartment with no water as opposed to the street for home.