11-02-2003 15:29									#1
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This is a good thread to make now. As many Europeans are on the board. More Europeans are into the nudist thing than americans.

I find the culture strange, yet fascinating.

I don't find it erotic at all. In fact the tv show I'm watching right now they are all ugly . You would think if you were going to be a nudist you would stay in shape. So many of the american ones are fat. And then you have all these aging hippies. Time has not done them well. Perhaps they looked good in the 60's, but not now.

so many fat people on this program. I need cleansing.

Anyways I guess because they are nudists they don't care how they looks. But I hated being fat. I am so glad I lost all this weight. I feel so nimble and agile now. And I have more energy. Why do other people put up with being fat? I hated it. And I was only fat for 5 years or so.

Perhaps because I'm not so attractive, I like to improve areas of my body in which I do have control. And that is body shape. I can't do much about my face, its all ****ed up.

In any case I think I could do the nudist thing. At least I would look better than all these fat people . But I think I would need a few beers to loosen up first.

	11-02-2003 15:40									#2
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nudism has little to do with eroticism.

	11-02-2003 15:43									#3
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I agree. But would you do it?

like I said, I would given enough motivations. Right now it just doesn't fit my lifestyle.

	11-02-2003 15:48									#4
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I am kinda ashamed of my body at the current stage.

I am getting rather fat. Not obese, but in the overweight area.

BMI: 29!

	11-02-2003 15:53									#5
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not that it matters. I seen plent of fat, obese, and overweight people on this tv special.

In fact I didn't want to flaunt in my original post. Those comments pretty much relate to me and how I feel about myself. They don't necessarily apply to other people. I just hated being fat. If I was obese my whole life it wouldnt' be a big deal. But I was extremely thin when I was a kid. And I was agile as well. So I really could not be naked in front of other people the way I was before. But now I feel like I could do it.

	11-02-2003 15:55									#6
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How did you lose weight?

	11-02-2003 15:57									#7
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eating less and excersizing more

ok it wasn't that easy. It does take a lot of discipline. Luckily that is one trait I do posses. I am a very disciplined person. but I think anybody on Apolyton could be if they think about it. It takes discipline to play civilization 2 or 3 for 20 hours or so It's just a matter of focus.

	11-02-2003 15:59									#8
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what did you do and for how long?

	11-02-2003 16:06									#9
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I hate to thread jack my own thread .

but I really didn't gain weight all that fast. So I just had to reduce my portion size. I cut my breakfast by almost half. Same with lunch. I used to make 2 sandwhiches to take to work, now I just make once. I used to get the shakes and headaches from not eating- but I think that was just pyschological. Amazingly I only got the shakes when I was gaining weight and did not eat, not when I was losing weight and did not eat. Nevertheless I still ate 3 meals a day. I stay fairly active on my job so I don't excersize during the week. On my weekends I work out twice. Stairstepper, and also free weights- dumbells to be specific. During the workout sessions I eat peanut butter to keep my energy and protein up during the workout days. I work out my biceps, triceps, shoulders, chest, and back. I also do some minor stomach crunches- nothing serious. I also walk my dog on my weekends. I also quit drinking soda, and I cut down my junk food consumption. I still occasionally eat it, but rarely. Sometimes I do miss a workout day. No biggie. I just try to at least get in one workout a weak. but maintaining my calorie intake is very important. Esp. when I don't workout 2 times a week or more.

	11-02-2003 16:13									#10
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quote: used to get the shakes and headaches

	11-02-2003 16:20									#11
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what about booze?

	11-02-2003 16:35									#12
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Getting back to the original point, my view is that tv programmes about nudism are linked to increasing obesity in Western Europe/North America. Either pictures of nude overweight people are being shown to shock overweight viewers into dieting or (more likely) to make them feel less of a freak and more comfortable with themselves.

Nudism in the UK? Why? With our climate you are either going to freeze your ass off or risk sunstroke with nothing in between.

	11-02-2003 16:39									#13
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Pointless. Not a single reason for it except for leftist attention-getters's irrationality.

	11-02-2003 16:42									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Pointless. Not a single reason for it except for leftist attention-getters's irrationality.

Trolling a thread about nudists is really quite original.

	11-02-2003 16:45									#15
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And calling a rational post of mine a troll is not.

	11-02-2003 16:45									#16
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I didn't seriously think you actually thought all nudists must be "leftists"

	11-02-2003 16:47									#17
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Well it's irrational.
So are lefties.

Therefore.

	11-02-2003 16:54									#18
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If they're comfortable with it, and they're in a nudist resort where no-one is going to bat an eyelid, I don't see what the problem is...

	11-02-2003 16:55									#19
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hmm...b12 helps too. It naturally raises the metabolism...

	11-02-2003 17:35									#20
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Azazel, I can make you a program, weight loss guaranteed if you follow it through. I used the same one, and man I'm telling you I was getting obese! Worked like charm, only took 6 months of rigorous training and diet plus after that I got into army, so that contributed a little.

About nudism.. nothing wrong with that.. So what if people want to be naked in nature. It feels good. It's like little kids, they don't care running nude outside. It's just some problem adults make for no reason. Being naked is natural, it's fun. It's not fun if you take lots of pressures and don't want to be naked. But then the problem is in your head. Just get naked with bunch of buddies, it's cool. Nothing sexual in it. No one cares if you have extra weight?!! So what! It means you have better income than the majority in this planet and are in good health! You survive longer if there is no food. Just let it go man.. forget about it. Especially in places where people are nude, really, they do not care about it. Nothing wrong with it, and if people say it's wrong somehow.. they must have some serious issues. Why someone has problems if other people want to be naked in private areas? Beats me. They must think it's all sexual and stuff. But basically, it's their problem.

	11-02-2003 19:24									#21
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I remember a thread here at 'poly from a year or so back. Supposedly the thread starter was a nudist who was upset because people staired at him and his girlfriend when they went out in public nude.

It had to be a troll but never the less it was classic stuff and he hooked all the puritans here at 'poly.

	11-02-2003 19:40									#22
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I have tried it and in the beginning it was, lets say, odd. After some time I got quite comfy. It would take a lot of time to be completely "free" but I have to say, it was an interesting experience. Why people do it is probably a very individual thing. Exhibitionism, feeling free, breaking down communication barriers....
For me definately not a sexual thing although I can imagine for many it is.

	11-02-2003 19:42									#23
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So what communication barriers were broken down? I suppose a girl could tell if I guy was in to her or not just by looking down but I really don't count that as improved communication.

	11-02-2003 20:01									#24
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I think it must de-sensitise a person to nudity. They must have trouble getting turned on by seeing their naked spouse.

	11-02-2003 20:07									#25
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Well, Oerdin , physical appearance is a huuuge comunications barrier with most people. By being completely naked, there is nothing to hide, so people tend to be more open to communication. Nobody's perfect, and by seeing that, an imperfect person may open up more freely.
It is of course what the people who tried say, so you'll have to try it out for yourself to know for sure!

It's not (only) about boobs and "the other thing" and "the other male thing", dammit

	11-02-2003 20:14									#26
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What happens if a nudist gets a boner? Does he try to hide it?

	11-02-2003 20:41									#27
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heh, only rookies get a boner
In fact thats how you'll recognize Oerdin after he takes my above mentioned advice

	11-02-2003 20:55									#28
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Attractive nudists:

Unattractive nudists:

	11-02-2003 21:50									#29
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Nudism is great, but only if its limited to people of college age like at wes's bi-annual naked parties

	11-02-2003 22:08									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Pointless. Not a single reason for it except for leftist attention-getters's irrationality.

... how is nudity irrational? If weather does not prevent one from being naked how can there possibly be anything wrong with it? An actual, rational explanation for your statement would be greatly appreciated.