15-02-2003 11:34									#31
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Good fantasy David. How exactly would the Sec Council ever pass that US disarm resolution considering the US has a veto? Not to mention the UN rarely, if ever, demands any state disarms. But, that's OK. Keep on keeping on in your twisted views of whatever the world should do so as not to inconvenience you yourself personally.

Hmm...I didn't read him saying "The UN is probably going to tell the US to disarm.". To me, it looked more like a "what if" situation.

Oh wait, it didn't only look like it......it WAS Very poor troll, NYE.

	15-02-2003 11:36									#32
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quote: Good fantasy David. How exactly would the Sec Council ever pass that US disarm resolution considering the US has a veto?

Duhhhh

	15-02-2003 11:37									#33
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You'd know a troll.

But then, crying 'troll' is rather easy, isn't it? Try to address...

'Not to mention the UN rarely, if ever, demands any state disarms'

Go ahead. You can do it if you try hard enough.

	15-02-2003 11:40									#34
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither You'd know a troll.

Yes I would, actually. I do it all the time, therefore I can ID trolls quite easily. (Hey, that supports my arguement.....)

quote: Go ahead. You can do it if you try hard enough.

See, but that wasn't the main troll, it was only somethin to amplify it. Your troll was saying that the UN would never do that, knowing full well that he knows it and was not saying that it would.

	15-02-2003 11:40									#35
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Seeing as how the Eurocoms have lost all sense of a moral backbone, I am going to be holding a retroactive "No War Against Hitler" march.

	15-02-2003 11:41									#36
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quote: 'Not to mention the UN rarely, if ever, demands any state disarms'

I don't quite see the relevance of that. Why should the UN be able to demand that ANY sovereign state disarm?

	15-02-2003 11:41									#37
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quote: I am going to be holding a retroactive "No War Against Hitler" march.

Great! I'll come!

	15-02-2003 11:41									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 See, but that wasn't the main troll, it was only somethin to amplify it. Your troll was saying that the UN would never do that, knowing full well that he knows it and was not saying that it would.

See. You agree that what he said was very stupid. This is called progress.

	15-02-2003 11:43									#39
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quote: See. You agree that what he said was very stupid. This is called progress.

Even I admit the UN would never try to force the US to disarm. But IF the UN did, should the US have to disarm, and would the US be at fault if the UN invaded them after they refused?

	15-02-2003 11:43									#40
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither See. You agree that what he said was very stupid. This is called progress.

No NYE, I dont. Dont put words in my mouth, its unbecoming of you.

I said that what he said is a WHAT IF situation. He knows it'll never happen, I know it'll never happen, you know that both of us know it'll never happen. You trolled.

In fact, his statement does add to his arguement, if only ever so slightly. It's not "stupid" by any means.

	15-02-2003 11:48									#41
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What do you mean? It's idiotic.

First off, the UN has demanded disarmament of a state in exactly one situation. That's right. This is unique to Saddam.

Second off, should the UN ever manage to sneak such an idiotic motion through, they would be completely justified in trying to back it up.

Back it up? Huh huh. That's a funny one.

	15-02-2003 11:50									#42
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quote: First off, the UN has demanded disarmament of a state in exactly one situation. That's right. This is unique to Saddam.

It's nonsensical, though. The US has created and started much more war than Saddam has. The US has caused far more civilians deaths than Saddam has. The US has exported far more weapons than Saddam has. The US has created far more WMDs than Saddam has. The US has used far more WMDs than Saddam has.

So why shouldn't the UN demand that the US disarm?

Oh, possibly because the US and allies told them to demand that Iraq disarm, and because the US had the force to make it stick?

	15-02-2003 11:52									#43
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Maybe because disarming was a part of the Gulf War 1 cease fire agreement that has been violated for over 12 years?

	15-02-2003 11:53									#44
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither What do you mean? It's idiotic.

quote: First off, the UN has demanded disarmament of a state in exactly one situation. That's right. This is unique to Saddam.

Not really...Think about the statement NYE.

quote: Second off, should the UN ever manage to sneak such an idiotic motion through, they would be completely justified in trying to back it up.

Ok. Tell him that.

quote: Back it up? Huh huh. That's a funny one.

Speaking of backing the UN up, I can't wait till the US enforces the 33 resolution violations by Israel.....Instead of focusing on the 17 by Saddam.

	15-02-2003 11:54									#45
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quote: Maybe because disarming was a part of the Gulf War 1 cease fire agreement that has been violated for over 12 years?

So? The US had no right to fight the war in the first place, nor did the UN.

	15-02-2003 11:58									#46
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That's a nice fantasy world you live in, David.

	15-02-2003 12:00									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Speaking of backing the UN up, I can't wait till the US enforces the 33 resolution violations by Israel.....Instead of focusing on the 17 by Saddam.

Do you want to speak about the Security Council or the General Assembly?

Do you want to talk about facts, or spread disinformation?

	15-02-2003 12:02									#48
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This is exactly the sort of foolishness we simply must ignore.

	15-02-2003 12:02									#49
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Will be in NY with about 400 wes people (the most we've ever had at a non-local protest in the last four years at least) and will be playing some computer siding in the SAMBAHOTS (Striking A Musical Blow At the Heart Of The System) activist samba band
Annoying city government wouldn't give up a permitt so things could get interesting...

	15-02-2003 12:04									#50
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Hey Eurocoms, do you realize you are being PLAYED by Saddam?

This game has gone on long enough. Time to put an end to the charade.

	15-02-2003 12:06									#51
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Big local protest is taking place too. A rare occurance for the usually apathetic people here.

	15-02-2003 12:16									#52
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quote: Originally posted by LoneWolf This is exactly the sort of foolishness we simply must ignore.

As I say...

	15-02-2003 12:19									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Seeing as how the Eurocoms have lost all sense of a moral backbone, I am going to be holding a retroactive "No War Against Hitler" march.

The western allies were obviously the aggressors. After all Hitler never harmed them the dirty Imperialists were just trying to stick there noses into a German-Polish dispute.

If someone wishes to find justification for failing to do the morally correct thing then they can always pull something out of their ass. That doesn't make it right but they can do it.

	15-02-2003 12:23									#54
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd So? The US had no right to fight the war in the first place, nor did the UN.

*Edit: My original response was more harsh then the young Floyd deserved.*

The U.N. didn't have the right to demand Saddam withdraw from Kuwait? On what do you base that opinion?

	15-02-2003 12:28									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Bush doesn't care one way or another what you or anyone else thinks...

Who cares about him? I'm not an American, nor do I live there.

quote: Chretien is playing Canadians for fools. He's delaying, but he will send. Every day they hint more at it.

Rubbish - he's trying to put off a decision because he is between a rock and a hard place more like it.

Anyway, don't try to hide the fact that you are a pathetic loser who is just too lazy to stand up for anything he believes in, or anything for that matter. I suppose you try to mask this by trying to appear coolly indifferent or above it all. Get lost you gutless creep.

Given this, you are in no place to snipe at people possessing better character than yourself, so you go on the to be ignored list.

Protests often work - that's why NZ is a nuclear free zone, among other things. No thanks to people like you.

	15-02-2003 12:31									#56
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Civil disorder in Toronto! The mob destroys a Tim Horton's!

Unhappy persons:

55% "All we are saying is 'Give peace a chance'"

25% "George W Bush is a big fat idiot"

20% "Americans have ruined hockey!"

	15-02-2003 12:35									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Anyway, don't try to hide the fact that you are a pathetic loser who is just too lazy to stand up for anything he believes in, or anything for that matter. I suppose you try to mask this by trying to appear coolly indifferent or above it all. Get lost you gutless creep.

I think you're freakin moron with more of the 'my way or the highway' attitude than most Americans ever exhibit.

	15-02-2003 12:35									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Who cares about him? I'm not an American, nor do I live there.

Dear Agathon,

Bush is the President of the United States of America.
Bush is the person who will be attacking Iraq with or without Canada's blessing.
Protesting it is pointless because he doesn't care what you think, he'll do it anyway.

Thanks for your time,
Dave

quote: Anyway, don't try to hide the fact that you are a pathetic loser who is just too lazy to stand up for anything he believes in

Lord knows I never express an opinion and back it up endlessly.

quote: I suppose you try to mask this by trying to appear coolly indifferent or above it all. Get lost you gutless creep.

Tone it down a notch, darling, there's no need to cry.

If you keep this up, Ming will be on your ass, and I assure you I'm not worth it.

quote: Given this, you are in no place to snipe at people possessing better character than yourself, so you go on the to be ignored list.

This is brilliant -- mention about how I'm in no place to snipe at people possessing better character than myself after you've thrown several insults at me (while I have thrown none at you), and to top it off you plug your ears and shriek "I can't hear you!" by putting me on your ignore list. Was this planned ahead or spontaneous?

	15-02-2003 12:38									#59
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Of the nations opposing us, there is not a single one that does not receive significant aid from us (yes, including France and Germany). Again I ask, why do we continue this?

Or maybe the lack of response is answer enough.

	15-02-2003 12:43									#60
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quote: Lord knows I never express an opinion and back it up endlessly.

I can only wish...