15-02-2003 08:42									#1
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Tomorrow the world will show its unity against a war in Iraq (the UN has already done it). I plan on joining the protests scheduled tomorrow in Logan City What are your plans?

	15-02-2003 08:47									#2
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I plan to sleep in and perhaps play some games.

	15-02-2003 08:48									#3
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Oh bah you.

	15-02-2003 08:49									#4
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Freeze my a** off in downtown Toronto, with all the other "Philosophers for Peace".

	15-02-2003 08:50									#5
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The sad thing is, my actions will have as much impact on the world as all of the loons dancing nude in the streets with "Save Saddam" t-shirts tied around their waists.

	15-02-2003 08:50									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The sad thing is, my actions will have as much impact on the world as all of the loons dancing nude in the streets with "Save Saddam" t-shirts.

So? Its still fun to do.

Some friends I have plan on burning 100 US flags

	15-02-2003 08:51									#7
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quote: What are your plans?

I'm going to buy a new suit and get a haircut for my JET Program interview next Friday. Then I'm probably going to do some homework before going out and getting pissed. The bars should be a lot more fun with all the hippies occupied elsewhere.

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Burning the US flag is woeful lack of sensitivity to the ultimate target audience of these protests: the American people. Bush will keep his foot on the accelerator if he knows the American people are behind him, as he does now.

	15-02-2003 08:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Burning the US flag is woeful lack of sensitivity to the ultimate audience of these protests: the American people. Bush will keep his foot on the accelerator if he knows the American people are behind him, as he does now.

The American people have already voiced their opinion: No war without UN backing.

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War without the UN, but with select allies, has 57% support.

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quote: Originally posted by DanS War without the UN, but with select allies, has 57% support.

Really?

Though it is expected that support for war will rise during the weeks after the State of the Union.

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Yep, really. Realize that this is much higher support than Bush I had in Gulf War I.

Who has been spreading this misinformation about the support Bush has among the American people?

	15-02-2003 09:01									#13
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I guess the select allies would principally involve Britain - but Blair has made it politically impossible for himself to join in without a second UN resolution.

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We'll see. He has certainly taken political risks. He might just bite the bullet and hope for a good outcome in the war.

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He's made commitments and 'forgotten' them before now, to be sure - but never at such a politically supercharged moment.

I remain optimistic that, even assuming he's only out for himself (assumed in most cases more often than is strictly fair), the potential diplomatic damage caused by a rift with Washington will be dwarfed by the political damage at home if he goes in without the UN.

	15-02-2003 09:17									#16
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I don't know what I will do. I'm against the war, but probably not enough to go protest. I seriously doubt that the majority of Americans support this war.

	15-02-2003 09:22									#17
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The number to topple Hussein through military means is 66%, with 46% strongly supporting. You've been reading Apolyton too much.

	15-02-2003 09:40									#18
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I'll be at the protest tomorrow.

	15-02-2003 09:45									#19
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My mom doesn't even support this war, and she's about as fundamentalist conservative pro-Bush as they come.

	15-02-2003 10:07									#20
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Ah, the voices of irrelevance will be heard. As well as the voices of hypocrisy. I'd bet money that there won't be an anti-Saddam posters (as he's the one who would be causing war) at any of these protest.

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How is Saddam causing the war, when clearly the US is the one building up to invade? That's nonsensical. That's like saying the Poles caused WW2 by not surrendering to Hitler.

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quote: Originally posted by DanS The number to topple Hussein through military means is 66%, with 46% strongly supporting. You've been reading Apolyton too much.

No, I've seen the polls. I've never seen the numbers that you give. I would like to know what polls these are.

	15-02-2003 10:21									#23
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr.../data021103.htm

See questions 7 and 9.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher The sad thing is, my actions will have as much impact on the world as all of the loons dancing nude in the streets with "Save Saddam" t-shirts tied around their waists.

Don't be so defeatist. Politicians don't completely ignore these things. If enough people make it clear they are opposed, there will be mild compromises made, which is better than nothing. No reasonable person expects that the revolution will start tomorrow, but I know what would definitely happen if everyone stayed indoors.

Witness Chretien's commitment of more troops to Afghanistan. It virtually means that Canada will not send troops to an Iraq war (or so I have heard). The obvious reason for his doing so is that most Canadians don't like the idea of a war against Iraq.

	15-02-2003 10:28									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Don't be so defeatist. Politicians don't completely ignore these things.

Bush doesn't care one way or another what you or anyone else thinks...

quote: Witness Chretien's commitment of more troops to Afghanistan. It virtually means that Canada will not send troops to an Iraq war (or so I have heard). The obvious reason for his doing so is that most Canadians don't like the idea of a war against Iraq.

Chretien is playing Canadians for fools. He's delaying, but he will send. Every day they hint more at it.

	15-02-2003 11:20									#26
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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd How is Saddam causing the war, when clearly the US is the one building up to invade? That's nonsensical. That's like saying the Poles caused WW2 by not surrendering to Hitler.

Ignoring ones feelings toward the UN and whether they have a right to demand disarmament, Iraq is in violation of UN resolutions. His refusal to disarm is causing this.

	15-02-2003 11:24									#27
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quote: Iraq is in violation of UN resolutions.

So if the UN demanded the US disarm, and the US ignored them, then if the UN attacked us the US would be at fault?

	15-02-2003 11:30									#28
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Good fantasy David. How exactly would the Sec Council ever pass that US disarm resolution considering the US has a veto? Not to mention the UN rarely, if ever, demands any state disarms.

But, that's OK. Keep on keeping on in your twisted views of whatever the world should do so as not to inconvenience you yourself personally.

	15-02-2003 11:33									#29
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btw, I'll go to work tomorrow. I'll spare a thought for the twots demonstrating in a foot of snow in DC. Then I'll most likely fart.

	15-02-2003 11:34									#30
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So do you all think that we all should be continuing to supply aid to all of these countries opposing us? Because we are, by far, the largest grantor of foriegn aid, I'm sure you know.