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My vote goes to Charles Darwin by how he utterly changed the perceptions of ourselves from a divine creation to the result of evolution, and he ticked off Creationists for the past 144 years.

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Sir John Harrington.

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Galileo Galelei.. eh screw spelling...

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Unfortunatley Darwin's Theory was used and abused as justification for empire and subjugation of the "savages".

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In all seriousness, the award goes to Victor Theremin.

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Either Newton or Einstein.

In terms of genius and advancement of pure scientific understanding, there's nobody else in the last 500 years that even comes close.

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I'll agree with Einstein and Newton.

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Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night.
God said, "Let Newton Be!", and all was light.

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I'll go with Newton and Einstein at the top, with Maxwell, Feynman, and Galileo at a secondary level.

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Don't forget Copernicus.

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I'll go with Newton and Einstein at the top, with Maxwell, Feynman, and Galileo at a secondary level.


I agree. That second tier is pretty big for me. Includes a bunch of 18th century chemists, 19th century biologists (Darwin, Mendel) and 20th century physicists.

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God said, "Let Newton Be!", and all was light.


Of course. I can't remember who originally wrote that right now...

Newton's work seem more "obvious" to us nowadays than Einstein's, and it's thus easy to overlook it. But to look at it and realise that before Newton there was absolutely nothing of comparable significance to just basic science, and then realise that Newton just pulled all this stuff out of his ass gives me enormous respect for the man.

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3) Universal Gravitation. Holy crap. To look at the motion of the planets, realise that it has to do with the same force that holds us to the ground, and then deduce the law this must obey to give rise to the observed data...

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Not to mention his second tier discoveries like optics...

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Greatest would definitely be one of Einstein or Newton.

Turing is understated, though.

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3) Universal Gravitation. Holy crap. To look at the motion of the planets, realise that it has to do with the same force that holds us to the ground, and then deduce the law this must obey to give rise to the observed data...



I didn't pay attention to history class and physics class when they were talking about scientists but wasnt that kepler?

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How about Tesla? He's highly underrated as well.

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I vote for Galileo Galilei.

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How about Tesla? He's highly underrated as well.


causes he's a psycho

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As for Einstein, if he was "just" special relativity, brownian motion, photoeffect (what won him his Nobel), some stat mech stuff anda few other things then he wouldn't rank with Newton.

But GR blows my mind. He was the first of a new breed of physicists who realised that they needed more math than calculus to do physics.

Apparently in his day physicists didn't even do linear algebra. He had to sit down and learn tensors, then realise that they were actually applicable.

IMO, in addition to completely altering our perception of gravitation and space/time this also made the formalisation of the quantum revolution a lot easier...

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I didn't pay attention to history class and physics class when they were talking about scientists but wasnt that kepler?


No, wha Kepler did was to deduce the fact that planets moved in ellipses. He had no idea why.

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Come on, this man is the father of the flush toilet.

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Kepler did a lot of grunt work on actual calculations. He deserves an A for hard work and a B for inspiration.

It took him 10 years (!) to work through the calculations he needed to prove the validity of his laws. But those calculations were just classical geometry and trig...

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Definitely Einstein and Newton in tier 1. I'll leave beyond that for the philosophes.

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Gordon Moore is absolutely #1!

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Kepler did a lot of grunt work on actual calculations. He deserves an A for hard work and a B for inspiration.
It took him 10 years (!) to work through the calculations he needed to prove the validity of his laws. But those calculations were just classical geometry and trig...


Yep, and without Kepler's work, Newton wouldn't have gone too far. He had an interesting life too. His mother was once accused of witchcraft, and he had to learn law to defend her. Besides maybe Feynman or Einstein, he's the physicist I'd have most liked to meet. Newton, of course, was a total bastard.

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meeting Einstein would be a blast. Some stories I hear of him.... He is defintely quirky

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Can't I see correctly, or hasn't anyone yet mentioned stephen hawkins?

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"Of course. I can't remember who originally wrote that right now..."

Alexander Pope.

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Yep, and without Kepler's work, Newton wouldn't have gone too far. He had an interesting life too. His mother was once accused of witchcraft, and he had to learn law to defend her. Besides maybe Feynman or Einstein, he's the physicist I'd have most liked to meet. Newton, of course, was a total bastard.


Sure...but Kepler didn't have it in him to do what Newton did. Otherwise he'd have done it.

And even without universal gravitation, Newton presents a pretty impressive CV. I would definitely have liked to meet the old codger, though. And told him that 400 years later his attempts at character assassination hadn't worked and Leibniz was still getting half credit.

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In terms of genius and advancement of pure scientific understanding, there's nobody else in the last 500 years that even comes close.


Disagree.

"Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution," contended Theodosius Dobzhansky.

I rekcon it is Darwin, for an entirely new way of thinking.

 
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