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Zachriel
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Dec 2001 time: 00:26
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay
http://www.almenconi.com/topics/gam...ilization3.html
I guess that's what happens when ultra-fundamentalist christians are allowed to review games. Another choice quote:
quote: Some Christians might be disturbed by the fact that the developers dated the game by Evolutionary standards. It gives you the option to choose how old you want the earth to be (3, 4, or 5 million years old). |
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The quote you gave is listed under illegal/harmful behavior, which he defines as follows:
Harmful Behavior:
When a game entices you to do acts that are not necessarily illegal but unethical/immoral, such as cheating in sports games and disrobing female characters.
ILLEGAL Behavior:
When a game entices you to commit normally unlawful acts, such as vandalism, sexual assault, theft, or destruction of property, or murder in order to gain points or further the game goals.
Interesting how he doesn't complain about razing cities, nukes, forced starvation, forced labor, wars of imperial domination, massive bombardment of cities, and despotic government (much of which predate Darwin).
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Nightfall
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Interesting how he doesn't complain about razing cities, nukes, forced starvation, forced labor, wars of imperial domination, massive bombardment of cities, and despotic government (much of which predate Darwin).
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He did say that you could win by non-violent means, and he is correct.
What does that have to do with Darwin?
Young earth/old earth doesn't have a whole lot to do with Darwin...more to do with Big Bang and background radiation stuff than Darwin.
Side Note: A number of prominent Christian Apologists (Apologia means to give an answer, not say you're sorry, btw) believe in old earth and big bang, Norman Geisler among them.
The truth will set you

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I guess that's what happens when ultra-fundamentalist christians are allowed to review games.
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Man, we can't pray in school, we can't quote scripture in advertisements (at least in Canada, so far) and we can't even protest NEAR abortion clinics.
Now you want to take away our right to review games 
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Master Zen
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of naughty
Jan 2003 time: 23:26
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe
Master Zen, a master of recognizing another's perspective you are not.
A role playing game Civ3 is, though not in the literal sense of playing the role of an individual person. Just as most "wargames" are "roleplaying a general" and the player slips into the "Rommel Syndrome." Civ3 is just a bit different. |
Then Doom is also "roleplaying" a space marine.
Seriously though, we are accustomed to certain genres which are aptly or not, named. To computer game players, the term Role Playing Game refers to a Ultima or Wizardry-type game, nothing else although there are hybrids of course.
Civilization type games are named Strategy games, even though of course, RPGs require strategy just as much.
What I find ridiculous is that a supposedly serious review site, calls Civ3 an RPG in the first sentence. Whatever your perspective towards how to correctly "name" a game, calling Civ3 an RPG is wrong.
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Comrade Tassadar
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quote: Originally posted by Jaybe
Master Zen, a master of recognizing another's perspective you are not.
A role playing game Civ3 is, though not in the literal sense of playing the role of an individual person. Just as most "wargames" are "roleplaying a general" and the player slips into the "Rommel Syndrome." Civ3 is just a bit different. |
By that definition, every game in the world is an RPG.
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Zachriel
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U.S.A.
Dec 2001 time: 00:26
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quote: Originally posted by Nightfall
He did say that you could win by non-violent means, and he is correct.
What does that have to do with Darwin?
Young earth/old earth doesn't have a whole lot to do with Darwin...more to do with Big Bang and background radiation stuff than Darwin.
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The critic brought up evolution: it's his issue.
You are somewhat right concerning the science, but not quite. When Darwin proposed his scientific theory of Evolution, physicists dated the age of the Earth as at most a few million years. This was because there no known energy that could power the Sun for a longer period of time. In addition, if the earth were billions of years old, it would presumably be cold inside, which is contradicted by the existance of volcanos. The Darwinists *knew* that the Earth must be at least hundreds of millions of years old due to the fossil and geologic evidence, so they therefore hypothesized that there was a source of energy as yet undiscovered. It took decades for atomic energy to be discovered. Quite a remarkable deduction from the scientific evidence. (Meanwhile, physicists spent the next century confirming the Earth's age through various means, including studies of radioactive decay, geology, planetology, etc.)
In addition, the Darwinists proposed that there was a substance associated with the "gene," that could be passed down intact from generation to generation, and that would ocassionally be mutated slightly during the process. It was supposed that this "gene" would be chemical in nature. Again, decades later this chemical, now known as DNA, was discovered. Now, we can splice human genes into bacterium to produce insulin for diabetics. Another remarkable deduction.
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Man, we can't pray in school, we can't quote scripture in advertisements (at least in Canada, so far) and we can't even protest NEAR abortion clinics.
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Even under the tyranny of Canadian government, you can pray after school. You can always pray silently during the school day, and more than likely can pray quietly during any break in classes. Need more prayer in your life? Go to the church of your choice.
The critic has every right to criticize the game for any reason he wants, no matter how inane. The irony of his position is self-evident.
By the way, I pray everyday. 
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MrBaggins
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[IRONY]****. I didn't think killing Germans actually 'counted'.[/IRONY]
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