21-02-2003 04:09									#1
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This amendment is proposed to the people of Apolyton. It changes the way that officials can be replaced:

• Consuls can be replaced by a Change of Command procedure;
  
• Ministers are appointed by the Consuls.

	21-02-2003 08:17									#2
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You do realize that this means that the minimum time it will take to replace an official is 5 days? The max is 6!

This is unnacceptable. At least have the vote open for a max of 48 hours. I mean, take real world voting... It only happens in one day. If the 48 hour application period is used, then there will be 96 hours for the issue to be open, plenty of time for people to notice that a vote will be taken, and then go online and vote during the 2 days.

	21-02-2003 08:55									#3
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I agree with Panzer, the constitution can't slow down the game!
I know, we shall respect the Democracy, but this is a PBEM game and I'm not so young as I used to be... . Constant delays and interruptions (see the C3DG) to discuss things are interesting, effective and democratic , IF we're playing a SP game.
In our case, we need agility, even if this means more power to our leaders or a small quorum (and this means more responsability, too! So, we must be fast in punishment and replacement... ).
It's almost impossible to run a direct democracy like in the C3DG, the things here are more like REAL governments.

If I feel upset about any decision made by the government, I'll protest in front of the Palace!
48 hours is time enough to do this.

quote: Originally posted by BigFurryMonster ................. e The replacement proposal vote must be open for 72 hours. .................

Make this 48 hours and I'll vote yes.

	21-02-2003 10:57									#4
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No, why should we hurry? What's wrong with waiting one more day for people who do not live entirely on Apolyton? It is not an emergency vote!!

Until the new Consul/Minister is elected the old one will take care of his job, obviously. So I don't get it: how would this extra day slow down the game

	21-02-2003 13:51									#5
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hi ,

yes , yes , yes

have a nice day

	21-02-2003 18:04									#6
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This amendment has my support

The timing is OK. This is a hobby, not a way of living. At some times we can be more time here. Some other times our RL lives let us only a few minutes a day (or even every several days) to peek here

	21-02-2003 18:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius No, why should we hurry? What's wrong with waiting one more day for people who do not live entirely on Apolyton? It is not an emergency vote!! Until the new Consul/Minister is elected the old one will take care of his job, obviously. So I don't get it: how would this extra day slow down the game

This depends on the reasons for the replacement. In some cases, the incumbent CAN'T still in the place, or can't make any other move in the game... And this is an emergency vote.

Hmm... The worst scenario:
Imagine a hypothetical case of a traitor leading the game. He must be impeached and banned immediately. How can he stay in the position? Obviously, this will never happen (I know, I'm a little naïf ), but what happens if... ?

Edited:
Oh, well... I voted yes... (you can't fight against lawyers. )

	23-02-2003 14:58									#8
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	26-02-2003 13:01									#9
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This amendment is accepted: 15 Yes, 4 No, and 1 I don't Care.

Could someone include it in the Constitution ?

	26-02-2003 15:36									#10
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I will do it sometime later today. The amended Constitution shall be added to the InfoCenter.