05-03-2003 15:40									#31
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quote: Did one of you guys that I instructed to edit the post (to add in your email address) delete the post? If so, you suck!

Calm down, only mods have the power to delete posts.

	05-03-2003 15:50									#32
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet quote: Did one of you guys that I instructed to edit the post (to add in your email address) delete the post? If so, you suck! Calm down, only mods have the power to delete posts.

Mods usually ONLY have the power to edit posts also; but ALL can do it here.

Would to care to test this? Whether or not another could delete your post? Why don't you go ahead and post somethnig here, like: "delete me" and I'll see if I can do it.

	05-03-2003 15:52									#33
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Ok: Delete me, please.

I couldn't delete it. That's good news; now to find out what DID happen.

/edit: FrustratedPoet waves at bigfree1!

Last edited by FrustratedPoet on 05-03-2003 at 16:00

	05-03-2003 15:59									#34
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quote: Originally posted by bigfree1 Mods usually ONLY have the power to edit posts also; but ALL can do it here.

Edit posts: YES
Delete posts: NO

Besides, whenever anybody edits a post .. even if they didn't write it originally ... the post is stamped with their name and the time they did it - see what I did to GT's post above this one (note: I didn't delete any text, just made an addition).

It isn't possible for us to edit each other's posts without it being obvious to everybody that we have done so.

	05-03-2003 16:12									#35
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Edit posts: YES Delete posts: NO Besides, whenever anybody edits a post .. even if they didn't write it originally ... the post is stamped with their name and the time they did it - see what I did to GT's post above this one (note: I didn't delete any text, just made an addition). It isn't possible for us to edit each other's posts without it being obvious to everybody that we have done so.

But I edited his post within 5 minutes and my name didn't pop-up on the bottom; just one of the things we'll have to live with I guess.

But I STILL want to know what happened to my post. Wouldn't you be a little dismayed if one of your suddenly went AWOL?

	05-03-2003 16:17									#36
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Well, the forum went down as I was trying to edit your post, so that may have something to do with it.

	05-03-2003 16:42									#37
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I don't know all the details of how these boards operate, so I guess that could've caused it.

Oh well, not to worry about it would be best.


Here's the game set-up I had (I think )

We are going to use the same setting and Civ's as in the ISDG game, including the same play order. This will be a PBEM game.

Put your name and email address next to the numbers below, order doesn't matter right now.

I will assign a Civ to each player based on a random event. I'm going to use the NYSE's closing numbers on the day after these spots are filled to determine play order, with the last number in that sequence being the player who will have turn #1(Indians); with the rest of the players following in the order below. So if 4 is the number, the player listed at #4 below will be India and will have the first turn. #5 below would have the second turn and would be the Egyptians and so on until all the spots are filled.

We need 8 players total.


1. bigfree1 bigfree1@attbi.com

2. GeneralTacticus angusniven@hotmail.com

3. BetaHound brucehynes57@rogers.com

4. Tarquinius redmar_damsma@hotmail.com

5. Panzer32 dmurray5 [censored] cogeco.ca

6. E_T e_t_1@mpinet.com

7. Trip TripGoT (at) hotmail.com

8. ZargonX jhaddockTAKEOUT@crunchable.net (take out the TAKEOUT, of course...)


Just use the 'edit' feature to put your name on the list, don't forget your address also.



P.S. Please, do not delete me.

Last edited by Panzer32 on 06-03-2003 at 19:25

	06-03-2003 08:16									#38
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Ok with every one except ZargonX signed up (I added him in since he would be #8 anyways) we are ready to assign Civ's to people.

Since the Dow ended today at 7,775.60; we use 6 as the place number for the person that is going to get the first turn. Number 1 will play the first turn and be assigned the Civ that also played the first turn in the ISDG game:


1. E_T -- Indians -- e_t_1@mpinet.com

2. Trip -- Egyptians -- TripGoT@hotmail.com

3. ZargonX -- Persians -- jhaddock@crunchable.net

4. bigfree1 -- Ottomans -- bigfree1@attbi.com

5. GeneralTacticus -- Carthinigians -- angusniven@hotmail.com

6. BetaHound -- Chinese -- brucehynes57@rogers.com

7. Tarquinius -- Arabs -- redmar_damsma@hotmail.com

8. Panzer32 -- French -- dmurray5 [censored] cogeco.ca

If people want to switch among themselves, that's fine, ask someone if they want to switch.

Since E_T has the first turn may I ask you to set-up the game according to the parameters of our ISDG game? I would like for the game to start tommorow, March 6, any questions?

Also it would be nice if we could arrange a chat session so that we could play some of the early turns fairly quickly; can everyone make it for sometime Saturday between 7pm and 9pm GMT?

Post below if you can make it.

Last edited by Panzer32 on 06-03-2003 at 19:19

	06-03-2003 08:53									#39
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Ok, sorry for the delay. Everything looks good to go! As for the Chat on Saturday, I'm afraid I can't make it.

	06-03-2003 09:13									#40
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Just to get this started, I wen't ahead and started the game off and have already sent the first turn off to Trip. I'll start a threat and link it here (ISDG Internal PBEM #1 Game ) for posting the turn having been sent.

E_T

Last edited by E_T on 06-03-2003 at 09:20

	06-03-2003 09:43									#41
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Thanks E_T

Hopefully we'll be able to gleen some information from this game for our ISDG.

	06-03-2003 10:38									#42
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I'm afraid I won't be able to attend the chat either.

	06-03-2003 10:41									#43
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Whenever we can get together, we should try to do that. As long as the players are looking for the save in their e-mail inboxes, we should be able to get some saves under our belt...

E_T

	06-03-2003 14:30									#44
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Ah great, it has started!
I hope I get a free settler....

	07-03-2003 04:35									#45
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hmm still don't got the save from beta hound......If I will get it tomorrow morning (it is 0:40 am now) I will try to play but no guarentee....it might be 12 hours from now that i will be able to play my turn

	07-03-2003 04:40									#46
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I just got a message from Beta, he's playing the turn now as I type this.

	07-03-2003 05:31									#47
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Sorry - had three to play before this one - and this one didn't load. Civ 3 message says file may be corrupt - it worked OK with the other three.

Are we using 1.21? I am still playing with 1.14.

Tried again and it shut Civ3 down altogether.

	07-03-2003 06:26									#48
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I'm using 1.21 and it worked fine. I'd assume then that E_T set the game up using 1.21.

There's a thread in the PBEM forum of how to install both versions by using two different zip files to overwrite game files needed by both versions. I haven't tried it, but it sounded pretty solid.

	07-03-2003 06:28									#49
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I played with 1.14f, which means E_T was using 1.14f, which means the game '1.21f-ized' between Zargon and General Tacticus. I don't think it's Zargon, because he plays for Legoland with the 1.14f save.

	07-03-2003 07:02									#50
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So it sounds like we were intending to play the game with 1.14. But the question is will trying to open a 1.21 save with 1.41 give the result I got - Civ3 Error message that save was corrupt - or is there another issue with the save? That is what I am not sure of. Will crank civ 3 up and try it again.

	07-03-2003 07:13									#51
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OK - still doesn't work. Here is what happens. And I have tried both load methods.

Under the multi-play method - I get this -

First - small windows pop up message - "DataIO - Operation System Error. BIC"

Then - Civ3 pop up message - "Scenario Invalid - Could not open scenario. File may be corrupt."

Then the system reports an error with Civ3 and shuts it down.

Under the Load Game method - I get this -

First - small windows pop up message - "DataIO - Operation System Error. BIC" (same as above)

Then - Civ 3 pop up - "Load Error. Error Reading File C/ ....... etc 4000BC.SAV"

Civ3 does not shut down.

	07-03-2003 07:33									#52
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Yes, we are playing as 1.14f. Whomever has 1.21f, please replay the save and send it on to the next person. the save's are aparently NOT backwards compatable.

Until we have the ISDG and the PTW DG upgrade as a whole, I will not upgrade. I could set up a separate game like I did with the SPDG (I still have CivIII 1.21 and 1.29 on my machine), but I'm starting to run out of Hard drive space.

E_T

	07-03-2003 07:40									#53
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quote: Originally posted by bigfree1 I'm using 1.21 and it worked fine. I'd assume then that E_T set the game up using 1.21. There's a thread in the PBEM forum of how to install both versions by using two different zip files to overwrite game files needed by both versions. I haven't tried it, but it sounded pretty solid.

bigfree1, you seem to be the one that has caused a problem. Please copy all of your PTW files onto a separate folder and reload the 1.14f patch in to it. THat's how we have done it in the SPDG with a dual install. Then play this game with that.

GeneralTacticus, have you upraded to the 1.21f patch also. because that's the only way that you wouldn't have a problem with bigfree1's save.

E_T

	07-03-2003 11:06									#54
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Yes, I have upgraded to 1.21f, but I played the save with 1.14f (I think).

	07-03-2003 11:20									#55
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Bigfree1, please replay the turn with 1.14f and resend that to GT, thanks.

E_T

	09-03-2003 02:59									#56
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1. E_T -- GMT-5 -- e_t_1@mpinet.com
2. ZargonX -- GMT-5 -- jhaddock(AT)crunchable.net
3. Panzer32 -- GMT-5 -- dmurray5 (at) cogeco.ca
4. BetaHound -- GMT-5 -- brucehynes57@rogers.com
5. Trip -- GMT-7 -- TripGoT (at) hotmail.com
6. bigfree1 -- GMT-8 -- bigfree1@attbi.com
7. GeneralTacticus -- GMT+10 -- angusniven@hotmail.com
8. Tarquinius -- GMT+1 -- redmar_damsma@hotmail.com

We have 4 people whom are in the same timezone: Batahound; Panzer32; ZargonX and myself. As I'll be setting up the game, I'll go first. If any of you other three have free times that are different than normal (or anyone else for that matter), please post here or edit this order, so that we can make this game flow as smoothly as possible.

[EDIT] Added the choices form everybody
The civs are:
China - E_T #1.
India - Tarquinius #2.
Egypt - Tarquinius #1, Trip #2, bigfree1 #3.
Persia - Trip #1, Panzer32 #2, ZargonX #2, E_T #3, GeneralTacticus #3.
Ottomans - bigfree1 #1, GeneralTacticus #1, Trip #3, Panzer32 #3, ZargonX #3.
Carthage - ZargonX #1, E_T #2, bigfree1 #2.
Arabs - Panzer32 #1, GeneralTacticus #2.
France - Tarquinius #3.

Still waiting on BetaHound's choises... [/EDIT]

lets have a 3 choice preferance for these civs for this next game. If we have a tie, we do RPS to figure who gets first choice.

My choices: 1- China; 2-Carthage; 3- Persia

Please also post if you DONOT want to be in this second game, so that we can get a replacement.

E_T

Last edited by E_T on 10-03-2003 at 00:35

	09-03-2003 03:16									#57
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My choices:

1. Ottomans

2. Carthage

3. Egypt

	09-03-2003 03:27									#58
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My choices: #1 Ottomans, #2 Arabs, #3 Persia.

	09-03-2003 04:40									#59
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Persia

Egypt

Ottoman Empire

	09-03-2003 05:56									#60
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Arabs
Persia
Ottomans