24-02-2003 15:53									#1
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Hello

I was thinking of starting a series of PBEM games, a trilogy.
The games will be as followed:

a) Continents, standard victory conditions, 6-8 players.

b) Archipelago, conquest or regicide only, 6-8 players.

c) Pangaea, team game, 6-8 players (2x3 or 2x4), no standard victory conditions, only points limit, victory points location or capture the princess.

More details for each game will be discussed after an adequate number of people sign up.

You can apply for all 3 of them if you'd like but it is not guaranteed that you will participate in all so in your reply specify your preference order. The total number of applicants will determine on how many games you will participate. Also specify your difficulty level, whether you are currently playing in another PBEM game, and if you have any previous experience in PBEM in another game.

All 3 games will use the Civ3 PBEM Rules.

If you are interested in joining any of the above games post below including your email address.

Thanks

Last edited by Keygen on 24-02-2003 at 16:28

	24-02-2003 16:20									#2
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Yep. Order of preference: a), b), 3)

Good to see some order starting to emerge here at last ( good job on the rules Keygen )

	24-02-2003 16:31									#3
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How did I put that 3) there?
Well, what else. Typical copy-paste error
Changed to c)

Thanks Rick
I intent to start a couple more interesting things around here

	24-02-2003 21:54									#4
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Ready to play
categorie regent
(a) (c) (b)
I wait your answer

	24-02-2003 22:12									#5
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I want too

order: c) a) b)

my address: nebucadnez2ar at yahoo.com

Last edited by ormuzd on 25-02-2003 at 12:24

	25-02-2003 09:52									#6
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I'm in
I like all three, really hard to say, but if forced a, b, and c.

regent

SMAC, SMACX plus a ton of other war games (two games with you currently Keygen).

Been doing this for 7 years.

You already have my email!

	25-02-2003 12:23									#7
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Preferred order:
c)
b)

and maybe
a)

	25-02-2003 12:41									#8
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Kambei, could you post your email address?

Flandrien, your difficulty level?

Thanks

Reggy, welcome aboard friend

	25-02-2003 12:47									#9
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Applicants

Ricketyclik
Kambei
Ormuzd
Reggy
Flandrien

Pending

Franses
Azrael
Swissy

	25-02-2003 16:30									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen Flandrien, your difficulty level?

Isn't that fixed on chieftain in PBEM ?
(Known bug)

	25-02-2003 20:55									#11
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Flandrien, I am asking for the difficulty level so I can distridute the players according to it to balance if possible the games a bit, especially the team one.

	25-02-2003 21:16									#12
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So you mean preferred single player level ?

In that case, monarch.

	26-02-2003 06:53									#13
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Hello there, I'm new to the PBEM forum so be easy on me.

I'd like to play and my preferences are

a
b
c

bigfree1@attbi.com (no spam please; only porn )

	01-03-2003 14:43									#14
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Anyone else interested?

With more than a hundred poeple registered in the Civ-PBEM civgroup I would expect some more enthusiasm here

Common, join... this is an open challenge!

	02-03-2003 03:24									#15
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Ok, I'll play now that the latest patch is out.

I prefer game B. But, I will play in game A if it seems to be starting first. I have bno interest in game C. Make sure it has accelerated production and try to order the players for better turn flow. I suggest some sort of chat based start where we can shuttle an hours worth of turns to get a good start (like a second or third city built).

Keygen, you know how to contact me when the game is ready to start.

	02-03-2003 04:47									#16
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Hey Swissy, you rember me? I used to go by 'Evanwood' in the MP arena. I'm looking forward to playing some more soon now that the patch is out. You were a good opponent; see you around.

	02-03-2003 08:51									#17
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In still in. I'm just waiting instructions here. Looking forward to a good game.

	02-03-2003 22:09									#18
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Sorry: my mail is julienpysson@oreka.com

	03-03-2003 11:06									#19
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Applicants

Ricketyclik (ricketyclik@webone.com.au)
Kambei (julienpysson@oreka.com)
Ormuzd (nebucadnez2ar@yahoo.com)
Reggy (markheywood@shaw.ca)
Flandrien (kris.maes@planetinternet.be)
Bigfree1 (bigfree1@attbi.com)
Swissy (markbalt@ameritech.net)

Pending

Franses
Azrael

I need a few more players!

	03-03-2003 14:42									#20
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Keygen,

I was on holiday last week so could not respond earlier. Count me in for b) the Archipelago game.

	11-03-2003 18:26									#21
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I am still waiting for an answer from a couple of people...

I will keep you all informed.

	12-03-2003 01:02									#22
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Heck, I could be dead by the time this gets rolling.

	12-03-2003 14:44									#23
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I've been waiting for answers for more than a week.
It needs a second and sometimes a third email before I get an answer

For all new to PBEM concept bear in mind that a game with 6 players and up can last up to 2-3 years and there will be many delays in the between. I can assure you for that with my big experience from many PBEM games I have played in CtP.

If you find the above statement unacceptable please say so and withdraw from the game(s). This long participant and preference gathering process is a test of what you might deal with in real PBEM games from time to time

	12-03-2003 15:34									#24
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I can attest to Keygen's statement. I began playing Civ:CtP PBEM in February 2002, and am yet to finish a game which has more than 2 players in it.

	12-03-2003 18:04									#25
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Of course most of the times and if the players are reliable the games goes relatively fast for the number of players

	13-03-2003 05:42									#26
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Unless I meet with some unfortunate fate; I plan to play 'til the end. The thing I hate most about MP is quiter's!

	13-03-2003 15:46									#27
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OK, I had a conversation with Swissy telling me that a PBEM in Civ3 without accelerated production is very boring and can take months before real interest starts. It figures as the initial growth is pretty similar to CtP wich is quite slow. We had solved that with the appropriate mod. I am a little reluctant to use accelerated production as despite the fast start it will provide, it will accelerate the game overall and that can be proved to be a problem.

So here are the options:

a) Accelerated Production
b) Accelerated Start Mod (I will try to create one as fast as possible).
c) Play online some turns (30-50) and then turn to PBEM if that is possible.

I personaly would like to try b) as long as I can have it in 2-3 days and doesn't mess up with original files.

	13-03-2003 16:45									#28
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I can't play on-line because of my hi ping.
A would say to accel. production but what will be mod look like? I don't have much expirience with map making and mods, so I don't have positive or negative opinion toward this variant.

	13-03-2003 17:23									#29
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Accelerated production not only speeds up the game but is also a great equalizer. Because production costs are halved, a player need not feel that they got a raw deal on the start area unless it is real bad (all floodplaines/desert, jungle). Each player should get going well enough and find nearby land to build on in all but the most awfull starts. With accelerated production your first warrior is ready in 2-5 turns, not 5-10. You should have a settler ready in to go on the 10th turn, not the twentith. Overall, accelerated production will give a player more to do at an earlier time in the game. As for unbvalancing, the rules for unit support don't change. If you think your going to build up a monster army, you'd better build tons of cities to support them. Remember everyone plays under the same rules, so any big benefit generated by accelerated production will be available to all players.

	13-03-2003 23:18									#30
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Accelerated production can be a way to speed the game along since food production is usually always better that shields. I always wondered why they didn't include an Accelerated game period; where everything was accelerated: food, commerce, movement, research, ect..

I like the idea of playing on-line up to a certain point and switching to PBEM. We could use the turn based method as that doesn't rely on pings as much as simulataneous or turnless.

I would choose to do, in order:

C

A

B